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G5 iMac?

MacinDoc said:
Wow, are you saying that the FP displays that were just announced at WWDC are going down in price already? I hope you're right about this, and about the 2 GHz G5, as well, since this machine would be perfect for me, especially if the price doesn't change much from the previous models.

I do believe that this will eventually happen, but I have slightly more modest expectations for the iMacs to be released in September. Well, just over a month until Expo Paris... :)
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Isn't the 23" panel the same as before, except for the metal case ?

Has it not been around for a while now and steadily dropping in price, in it's previous incarnation ?

The metal case for the iMac will be slightly thicker to hide the stuffings ... that would not be a "new panel". The actual LCD is the same "old" 23" HD cinema only now in a new case -- this does not constitute a brand new product dropping in price too soon.

The thing is that all modest expectations in these fora lack one thing : "WOW factor" :)

Without WF, it would not be a Mac event.

Since all PowerMacs are to be double processors,
one step down from that would be a singlet for the iMac
and the WF takes it to 2 GHz.

Can't stay at the old 20" LCD level, the WF demands 23" !:O

The overall shape has been hinted at already by better sources than I : a flat pizza box hanging on a removable stand.

I doubt the vertical drive on the back of the panel ---- The drives will remain horizontal and in the duck-foot base of the
stand -- even at 1" thick, that's about twice the space needed for a PowerBook SuperDrive. Now for the Ives factor --- put a nice taper on the riser to avoid a boxy look, and you have - as I have suggested - a slightly heftier stand than the new monitors have, stuffed with MoBo, drives, etc. The hot G5 may need perforations along the back of the riser/chimney and possibly a fan OR an electrostatic air mover like the Ionizer type air cleaners use to create a gentle breeze... no fan?

A mini version of the water cooling system on the towers may be used too. Apple has been doing too much ground-breaking work on cooling problems to not suspect a little innovation for the iMac. When I suggested liquid cooling for the towers, I was ridiculed ---- but it happened :)

I do love the conical photo above, but it is not different enough from the current hemisphere. Even a footed full-sphere I suggested is too similar -- Jobs and Ives want a psychologically dislocating visual experience that completely breaks away from the previous form factor. As the iMac I and the iMac II FP were distinct , so will the iMac III be.

And as a major transition, it will have to really WOW the pants off of us -- this is not to be another incremental upgrade.

As the original HUB machine and with Apple's recent forays into multi-media, wi-fi interconnectivity ( instead of convergence? ) etc., I expect major wireless capabilities and flexibility for this iMac : home theatre, telephony, DVD/TIVO, etc. ... and central to all this is ,

a big , fat, high-definition panel that knocks your socks off :)

Black Italian marble, please :)



---gooddog
 
gooddog said:
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Isn't the 23" panel the same as before, except for the metal case ?

Has it not been around for a while now and steadily dropping in price, in it's previous incarnation ?
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No, the new displays are brighter, have better contrast and better pixel response than the ones they replace. The panels in the previous 22" and 23" models were essentially the same for several years and they did drop in price a couple of times.
 
iDave said:
No, the new displays are brighter, have better contrast and better pixel response than the ones they replace. The panels in the previous 22" and 23" models were essentially the same for several years and they did drop in price a couple of times.
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ooh, never mind.

Emily Latella :eek:

But 23" is still the mid-size
panel .....hope springs eternal.

---gooddog
 
iDave said:
No, the new displays are brighter, have better contrast and better pixel response than the ones they replace. The panels in the previous 22" and 23" models were essentially the same for several years and they did drop in price a couple of times.
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Is this a G5 iMac topic or a Apple Display topic? :confused: I'd swear the the thread topic is G5 iMac....
 
iNetwork said:
Is this a G5 iMac topic or a Apple Display topic? :confused: I'd swear the the thread topic is G5 iMac....
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Oops, sorry for the off-topic response to gooddog's question.
 
gosh !

iNetwork said:
Is this a G5 iMac topic or a Apple Display topic? :confused: I'd swear the the thread topic is G5 iMac....
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It was a good response ...

these topics do overlap.

Thank you for the info iDave.

---gooddog :rolleyes:
 
kenaustus said:
"How many would have given their left one to have worked in Apple's design labs over the last year? :eek:"
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No but I'd give my right one. My girlyfriend always neglects that one for some reason. :p
 
gooddog said:
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I doubt the vertical drive on the back of the panel ---- The drives will remain horizontal and in the duck-foot base of the
stand -- even at 1" thick, that's about twice the space needed for a PowerBook SuperDrive. Now for the Ives factor --- put a nice taper on the riser to avoid a boxy look, and you have - as I have suggested - a slightly heftier stand than the new monitors have, stuffed with MoBo, drives, etc. The hot G5 may need perforations along the back of the riser/chimney and possibly a fan OR an electrostatic air mover like the Ionizer type air cleaners use to create a gentle breeze... no fan?
---gooddog
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Well, it certainly is refreshing to have a debate with someone who remembers to "Think Different". However, I still have a few objections:

1. I'd be very nervous if the top end of the stand was adjustable but the base had nothing heavier in it than the drives.

2. I'm not sure about this, but is an electrostatic air mover near a very sensitive MB a good idea? I agree that active liquid cooling could be a possibility, if the radiator was on the back of the panel and the pump was in the base. However, that could interfere with being able to mount the thing on a wall.

3. IBM/Apple still have to do something with the 970FX chips that don't make the 1.8 GHz cut, and the chip doesn't seem destined for the PowerBook or eMac any time soon...

You're right that Apple always likes to go for the "wow factor" with its new iMac designs. Dare to dream... ;)
 
MacinDoc said:
Well, it certainly is refreshing to have a debate with someone who remembers to "Think Different". However, I still have a few objections:

1. I'd be very nervous if the top end of the stand was adjustable but the base had nothing heavier in it than the drives.

2. I'm not sure about this, but is an electrostatic air mover near a very sensitive MB a good idea? I agree that active liquid cooling could be a possibility, if the radiator was on the back of the panel and the pump was in the base. However, that could interfere with being able to mount the thing on a wall.

3. IBM/Apple still have to do something with the 970FX chips that don't make the 1.8 GHz cut, and the chip doesn't seem destined for the PowerBook or eMac any time soon...

You're right that Apple always likes to go for the "wow factor" with its new iMac designs. Dare to dream... ;)
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Well....

1. If you notice, the stand on the new panels does not allow the panel to translate forward as the current iMac neck does ( sadly); it merely changes pitch while the yaw and roll remain static and, again, no forward travel. This means that the center of mass for the overall structure remains fixed in space.

In such a case, the mass of the base does not figure much into stability. Rather, we are required only to be sure that the center of mass remain within the effective radius of the foot , to keep the unit from tipping over.

This is why the new monitors have an even lighter stand than I suggested. I think that , in fact, the panel will NOT have mobo etc. attached to the back of it , as this idea was already ridiculed by Jobs when the FP iMac was first introduced, and a bulky panel is an eye sore -- neither Jobsian nor Ivesian.

Therefore, my stand would give more stability than is already achieved in the new panels.

2. I would not put the radiator in the panel at all because the main heat sources are in the base.
The entire back of an already metallic riser could BE the radiator ( and how beautiful to have a contrasting copper panel with perforations on the back to play against the aluminum ! ) and with the added benefit of a chimney effect like the Cube, it may be possible to use a very gentle but voluminous
ducted air stream ( using a very modest accelerating voltage and ionization probably already plentiful inside the riser, as in most electronic devices ) in cooperation with a baby version of the liquid cooling system extant to dissipate the heat of a single G5 running at 2 GHz. I don't have any calculations re. electrostatic air movers, but I know they are no more dangerous than the potentially deadly flyback transformers and capacitors ( condensers ) in typical CRT's. Of course the prospect of removing a reusable filter/electrode caked with dust, bacteria, pollen, and other harmful indoor pollutants - for easy cleaning under the kitchen faucet ... is disconcerting and too close to a bizarre form of "convergence" for most people. On the other hand, you would sleep better and have a clean, mean machine :)

3. Bad chips backed up ? This is why god made winboxes :)


---gooddog
 
iNetwork said:
Is this a G5 iMac topic or a Apple Display topic? :confused: I'd swear the the thread topic is G5 iMac....
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i just joined the thread so i will put it back on topic

when i read macworld's latest issue, it seems to hope the imac will be out just in time for school season...or at least it better be

i wonder just what the redesign will look like and how much it will cost since price point will be very crucial for apple to regain lost education market share

with the new G5 chip going into the consumer targeted imacs, it will probably mean g5 powerbooks shortly after that :)
 
You're an idiot

Chip NoVaMac said:
Well, if the rumors of the iMac G5 having VESA mountings for monitors, better get use to monitor discussions.
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Then they can go into a thread titled "iMac monitors"
 
Considering Apple/IBM "may" finally starting to make the switch to 90nm in the 1.8/2.0GHz PowerMacs -- some people have reporting getting 2.0GHz machines with the (PID: 0x003C) instead of the 130nm processor like they got in the beginning of the Rev. B shipments, and the 1.8GHz order may have just hit a sudden BTO stall.

This may mean that the iMac G5 has a chance of being in the stores the day they are announced, which is good news on the 90nm front finally. :)

Either that, or Apple/IBM is finally getting enough 90nm CPUs for all the Xerve/PowerMacs and the iMac G5 will be announced with an unknown ship date. :(
 
There was a mention, I believe when Apple presented their financial results for the quarter, that the next quarter's gross margins would drop a bit because of the costs of airfreighting the new iMacs. They are coming by plane, not ship, initially and I believe that they will, like the new iPod, be available when announced, or very shortly thereafter. A week or two delay might happen if Steve J announces the new iMac on Aug 31st in Paris as Apple has said that they will be announced and will ship in September.
 
Hector said:
it dose look sweet i saw this a while ago
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make mine in blue 1299 at 1.8GHZ plus $50 for 128 video
add a new bluetooth keyboard and BT Multi button mouse with scroll, apple or other and some nice speakers and 1GB 3rd party ram. so for $1400-$1500 I have basically a Single G5 mini with one AGP slot like the cube had, yes it had one and hopefully 1 pci or pci card slot, so I wont be left out in the cold when usb3 and firewire 1600 are released..
I will use my 21" sony for now, if dual dvi outs, I will add a Wide screen Apple 17" in 6 months.
 
daveg5 said:
new Imac G5?
http://www.mackompass.de/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=2
1 agp 1 pci
looks sweet!
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That really would be splendid. I recently bought a 20" Cinema Display to use with my PowerBook and would love to be able to use it with a new revision iMac (as I can't afford a PowerMac) - particularly one in those tinted aluminium cases.

The real question is over whether Apple will move away from their all-in-one design factor with the G5 iMac. Looking forward to September. :cool:

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edit: spelling
 
Hector said:
it dose look sweet i saw this a while ago
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within a month of every major release, macrumors or someone that macrumors found a link to has predicted it right on the money

this imac design does seem practical and fits in with the direction of flat panel monitors that the whole computer industry is heading in...but it does depart from the idea as "computer as a single unit with monitor" idea the imac has been famous for

i suppose the imac can move into the tower category while the emac hangs onto the self contained unit market like schools for young kids who may be a little too rough on lcd monitors
 
What would be cool is a mini iPod slot on the top or front. And it bundled with the corresponding colored mini iPod.

Excuse me, while I put my credit card on ice, it seems to be heating up in my pocket right now... :D
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
What would be cool is a mini iPod slot on the top or front. And it bundled with the corresponding colored mini iPod.

Excuse me, while I put my credit card on ice, it seems to be heating up in my pocket right now... :D
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That would be a way to bridge the iPod versus Mac gap. The "feeling" that iPods are generating some Mac sales would be far easier to see if the two were bundled together.
 
billyboy said:
That would be a way to bridge the iPod versus Mac gap. The "feeling" that iPods are generating some Mac sales would be far easier to see if the two were bundled together.
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actually a permanant promotion of buy a new mac and get a Ipod and vice versa for $50 off if you buy the other within 30 days, buy a refurb from Apple and get $25 off.
that would move alot of ipods and macs
 
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