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Ok, I'll bite.

Samsung doesn't and the nexus just got one (previous models did not).

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Nexus One did. :)

Glad to have that feature back. Even the Xoom has a notification light, they're dead handy and save a lot of un-needed phone unlocks.
 
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Nexus One did. :)

Glad to have that feature back. Even the Xoom has a notification light, they're dead handy and save a lot of un-needed phone unlocks.

Ahhhh yes. The nexus one does have it but I thought you had to root to change the colors and the nexus s does not. Both phones tell you you have messages in different ways. Led notifications is like looking at ppi of screens. Both have screens and show you the info. One might be better but they are still doing the same thing and telling you the same info.
 
1. A push notification is not even remotely close to the same to the same functionality as having a news ticker. That's just a rigged up attempt and trying to match function. This doesn't even come close to accomplishing that. If a notification comes through while you're using the phone then what? What if you choose to use the phone but not read the news right then? Then what? See, what you suggested is not even close to being the same thing. The same is true with severe weather alerts.

Again. I didn't say they were the same. Functionality different. Information same. I don't know how much more clearer to be.

And, again, you have misstated how iOS works. If a notification comes in and you do not act on it, it stays in the notification center.

2. Again as I stated, your solution involves going to different things to seek out the same information. You've already suggested two different things (one of which extremely poor and clumsy).

No, the information that was in your screenshot can all be available in the notification center.

3. Now we add a 3rd thing into the equation. Which again, I'd still have to wait for my content to download. Now while you're going through checking lock screen alerts (assuming the alert is still there), and then checking notification centers and then going into newstand and then waiting for the content, I'd have long already been finished doing what I wanted to do.

No, you don't have to wait for your content to download if the app uses Newsstand. It downloads in the background and is available when you open the app.

And again, I was only talking about the information in your screenshot. Not the information that you can get to by tapping or scrolling through widgets in on your homescreen.

4. Yes you did. You said "I understand that widgets are different than notifications. I'm saying the same information that you posted in your screenshot is available within one swipe of the iOS homescreen."

Do you see downloaded news articles and a forecast in your screenshot?

5. No, I read exactly what you stated and responded accordingly. My whole point is that being able to customize my device adds a level of usefulness and functionality that I cannot get on iOS. You countered by coming with this patchwork method of getting the information, which is nowhere near being the same thing. Sure you can get the same information, but you have to go out of your way to make some very deliberate actions to seek out the information, whereas all I have to do is turn on my device and it's all there in one place waiting for me. Push notifications with lockscreen notifications doesn't begin to mimic this functionality. For one if the alerts you're referring to come in while you're using the device you will not get a lockscreen notification nor while you get a static reminder that you have something you need to address, so if you forget about it then oh well (kind of defeats the purpose). Furthermore, I don't need to be alerted for every single news story every time a headline comes across. That makes no sense. It makes much more sense for me to be able to skim over what's in that feed and see what information is relevant to me. That only takes me a few seconds to do. No reason for me to get getting alerts all day long. BTW, that widget is not just high and low temp, but also a full forecast is tapped (but notice I didn't bring that part up either.) All in all, I think it's pretty clear that the functionality that I demonstrated cannot be mimicked using your method. The only way for you to do that would be via jailbreak. But then that goes back to what I was saying about customization adding to the user experience of a device.

Like I said, you didn't read what I actually posted. I never countered your point. I agree with everything you said about the advantages of customization. Widgets can add convenient functionality. I simply said that the information in your screenshot could be available in the notification center. And then later pointed out some fallacies in your claims about the capabilities of iOS.
 
Minimalistic and BORING! All of you phone look exactly the same. No individuality! There are not 10 different ringtones between 10 of you.

Apple has created phone zombies!:eek:
That actually made me chuckle, b/c I can't count how many times my iphone (before I put on some custom tones from cydia) would go off or others would, and you'd see like 10+ people all go for their pocket and check their phones lol. iPhone has Sublime-What I Got now lol.

Haven't put a custom ring tone on the SGII yet.
 
Ahhhh yes. The nexus one does have it but I thought you had to root to change the colors and the nexus s does not. Both phones tell you you have messages in different ways. Led notifications is like looking at ppi of screens. Both have screens and show you the info. One might be better but they are still doing the same thing and telling you the same info.

I believe root was required to set different LED notifications on the stock apps but a few Android apps supported different colours out of the box (I remember TweetDeck used a yellow light on my old N1).

Someone has shown me an app on Android Market to set custom lights on my Galaxy Nexus but I've not tried it yet. It was a pain to see the Nexus S released without one.
 
I buy this phone two weeks ago for me i don't like it poor wifi signal pretty bad battery life u can only get 3 or 4 hours of screen on feels cheep on the hand pretty bad camera i take a few shoots with flash and damm to yellow pics the only thing i like it it's ICS other than that nothing just sell it and pic up a 4s back
 
I believe root was required to set different LED notifications on the stock apps but a few Android apps supported different colours out of the box (I remember TweetDeck used a yellow light on my old N1).

Someone has shown me an app on Android Market to set custom lights on my Galaxy Nexus but I've not tried it yet. It was a pain to see the Nexus S released without one.

Well I hope it works when you do. An led notification can be useful but at the same time people who had one and now don't get used to it and still manage. Look at all the galaxy s2 owners, they don't have an led and the phone is a great phone. Does that make the gs2 a bad phone? No it still tells you you have a notification but by different means. All these phones do the same functions but the means is different. The only thing that ppl can say is not the same is if there is something completely missing like NFC. 4s doesn't have and the nexus does. Will apple add that feature, who knows. Also is it important? Depends how popular NFC is in your country.

Bottom line is ........to each their own!!
 
Would you mind explaining how to do this? This is the first I've heard of it.

The iPhone allows free tethering on any carrier that allows free tethering. There are also a few apps that were temporarily available that allow free tethering on any carrier (unless they figure out that you are tethering, of course!)
 
I had a Galaxy S2 for a few months. The screen definitely beat my iPhone but I missed lots of things like consistency across apps, smooth interfacing to my iTunes songs, general quality of experience.

When I say the iPhone 4GS and iCloud I came running back. Glad I did. New Android devices may be slick but I'm sticking with my first love.

John
 
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Nexus One did. :)

Glad to have that feature back. Even the Xoom has a notification light, they're dead handy and save a lot of un-needed phone unlocks.

iOS 5 does have anotification light.

You do know that the iPhone 4/4S (maybe 3GS too) under 5.0 can use the LED flash for 'Alerts' ? All Notifications, including incoming calls? ( phone must be in locked mode)

General/Accessibility/ LED Flash for Alerts

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-iphone-camera-led-notifications-work-complete-guide/

But also , all Notifications can be set to display TEXT in the 'Unlock' screen too. Give notification and display message. It just uses the entire LED retina display instead ;)

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So no unneeded unlocks. But I can the need for some, of a constant flashing led for calls, after the first notification came (like a BB). Except you still would need to check/unlock/whatever for details.
 
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That actually made me chuckle, b/c I can't count how many times my iphone (before I put on some custom tones from cydia) would go off or others would, and you'd see like 10+ people all go for their pocket and check their phones lol. iPhone has Sublime-What I Got now lol.

Haven't put a custom ring tone on the SGII yet.

What I like about putting custom tones on my SG2 and NExus is I need only copy them to the micro-SD card. The phone will play almost anything!

I have all my ringtones from my Blackberry days doing their thing on my Androids! Android makes it so easy!
 
That actually made me chuckle, b/c I can't count how many times my iphone (before I put on some custom tones from cydia) would go off or others would, and you'd see like 10+ people all go for their pocket and check their phones lol. iPhone has Sublime-What I Got now lol.

Haven't put a custom ring tone on the SGII yet.

One of the first thigns I did with my iPhone was custom ringtone/text sounds. :)
 
Would you mind explaining how to do this? This is the first I've heard of it.

Ok I have a 4s running iOS 5 so if I go into settings, general, network I can turn on personal hotspot (ie tethering). It will then ask me if I want to turn on Bluetooth, wifi or USB. You pick what you want to do and then on the second device you can connect to the iPhone through whatever option you chose. In this case wifi for example. When this happens I can now use the Internet on the second device. Now what I meant as in I didn't have to pay is that some carriers disable this feature on the phone cause they want you to pay for it. If your phone can't do it it's not the iPhones fault, it's your carrier or you have an older phone that doesn't support this feature. Now when I do this any data incurred on the second device still goes toward my monthly cap just like if I was using the iPhone for the Internet. I believe this is what you were inferring to if it was not I apologize cause that is what I thought you meant by free wifi tethering.

Now if you meant tethering 2 iPhones together to share files I'm sure there is an app that can do this or a jailbreak or if you meant using wifi and tethering to another device to access Internet that would be pointless cause why wouldn't you directly connect to wifi with the second device.
 
One of the first thigns I did with my iPhone was custom ringtone/text sounds. :)

I have several. Never found it difficult to do. Some people like to spin things to support their arguments. That'll never change...
 
Gotcha...so you're not in the USA?

I live in Canada and carriers here are just as bad as in the states and on some levels worse. On my carrier they provide free tethering on the iPhone but not on all phones. Some carriers don't even offer it unless you pay. It's not the phones fault, the functionality is there its the carriers. They want to gouge you as much as they can especially here in Canada. Our rates are one of the highest in the world and for the longest time we couldn't even take our old number to a new company without choosing a new number . It's brutal, but slowly getting better.

Also to add another point, why do carriers block this feature on the iPhone to begin with?? Cause the iPhone is a popular device and they want to make more money. If there is an android device that becomes very popular I bet you this feature will be closed off too for android. If a carrier thinks it can make money on it, it will do it. It's free now but in the future, who knows.
 
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If there is an android device that becomes very popular I bet you this feature will be closed off too for android.
Technically this feature has been locked down on Android as well. You're supposed to use the stock hotspot app (and pay the appropriate monthly tethering fee to your provider) but rooting an Android device is much easier than jailbreaking the 4S, so there are relatively easy workarounds...and so far Verizon hasn't been as anal as AT&T in sending warnings to people for not paying for tethering.
 
In my opinion ICS looks a lot like WP7. The color scheme and the simple, solid spaces are clearly copied from Microsoft.
 
I wouldn't touch a Galaxy Nexus even with a ten-foot pole. I don't trust copycat Samsung at all. The company is pure evil, heart as black as night. In contrast, Apple is like an angel falling from heaven, with Steve Jobs being the official saint.
 
Minimalistic and BORING! All of you phone look exactly the same. No individuality! There are not 10 different ringtones between 10 of you.

Apple has created phone zombies!:eek:

I cannot imagine how boring is life for those who are quite fixated on cell phones being non boring.
 
After using the ice cream sandwich keyboard I can easily say it is leagues above iOS'. Its more responsive and the auto correct is stunning. It even recognizes when you accidentally type "hibthere" and know you mean "hi there". Its genuinely difficult to make a typo.

Ice cream sandwich overall is really special.
 
After using the ice cream sandwich keyboard I can easily say it is leagues above iOS'. Its more responsive and the auto correct is stunning. It even recognizes when you accidentally type "hibthere" and know you mean "hi there". Its genuinely difficult to make a typo.

Ice cream sandwich overall is really special.

I have both a 4S and Nexus in My hand ....... Don't see the ICS Keyboard better,the touch response of the iPhone is unmatched. While the Nexus seems to be a really nice phone the reception and battery life is atrocious .
 
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