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Not to nitpick but i don't see the big deal. I spent $4.99 on swiftkey two months ago and hated it. Forget the themes, punching keys to type was horrible and i had to go back to samsung keyboard.

Also this only matters to the OCD types who care about customizing every little box on a cellphone. End result is the same, you type, it prints letters. Big deal.

This doesn't automatically make android "better". All it does is cater to a different type of people, that is all. I found I was not in that group and finally went back to using an i4 after months of android. Only thing i cared about in android was drag and drop. That is all. That is what i missed from my symbian days. Customization? lol it is a phone. I want to get some job done or get entertainment, i don't stare all day at my "boring grid of icons". It doesn't matter one bit to me.

Sure it does. I hated....HATED typing on my iPhone. The keyboard stunk! The auto insert as awful. Slideit and Swiftkey are 100 times better. And thats just an example of being able to use a totally different keyboard if you want to where your stuck with yours. Besides iTunes, the keyboard was the second biggest turnoff to iPhone for me.

As for the theme i have on SMS...i just updated my Hancent system and that was there for a christams thememand i just didnt get around to changing it back yet
 
Sure it does. I hated....HATED typing on my iPhone. The keyboard stunk! The auto insert as awful. Slideit and Swiftkey are 100 times better. And thats just an example of being able to use a totally different keyboard if you want to where your stuck with yours. Besides iTunes, the keyboard was the second biggest turnoff to iPhone for me.

As for the theme i have on SMS...i just updated my Hancent system and that was there for a christams thememand i just didnt get around to changing it back yet

Well there you go. Differing opinions. I could not find swiftkey to be on the same level as the iPhone keyboard. I made much more typos. In fact on my quest for a good keyboard for android i went through many, samsung, swype (ok swype is good, better than almost every keyboard android offers IMO), HTC, stock GB etc etc. I made much less typos on the iPhone.

However i now find that the ICS keyboard has fixed a lot of those issues. Seems to trump every other keyboard out there for me. Still now that i am typing this from the iPhone I didn't have to correct anything even once. I would go berserk on my galaxy while typing and rarely bothered to use forums.
 
I agree that swiftkey is awesome, but half of that is just the fact that the commonly used punctuation is right there with the rest of the letters. I hate that most stock keyboards hide punctuation. iOS is a particularly bad offender here. Ok, I can see it for stuff like the tilde or brackets, but the comma? Come on, that's used ALL over the place.
 
The Nexus is now available through Verizon.

Sigh, lets just hope theres not a million topics about this!

Good luck to Google on their new device!
 
Sure it does. I hated....HATED typing on my iPhone. The keyboard stunk! The auto insert as awful. Slideit and Swiftkey are 100 times better. And thats just an example of being able to use a totally different keyboard if you want to where your stuck with yours. Besides iTunes, the keyboard was the second biggest turnoff to iPhone for me.

As for the theme i have on SMS...i just updated my Hancent system and that was there for a christams thememand i just didnt get around to changing it back yet

I agree with you. While swype is my keyboard of choice due to how much faster it is than ANY keyboard on the any platform, I do think keyboards like swiftkey is very nice. What people who've never immersed themselves in using swiftkey don't understand is the level of integration it has for it's predictive system. Swiftkey can even link to your facebook account to see not just names of people you know, but even phrases you type and recognize patterns in your typing and be able to make predictions based on that. iOS' keyboard isn't in the same neighborhood as it has nothing close to that type of functionality.
 
I'm not sure which thread I posted this on, but I've mentioned before that I've always been a big critic of the iPhone keyboard. It misses keys very often, and doesn't seem to be able to keep up with fast thumbing speeds.
 
That swings both ways because i dont agree with anything you said here. Your car reference is ridiculous and im no fan of Mercedes either.

yeah, so if i offered you honda civic and mercedes cl you would pick honda, right?

its not about those two cars, its about their relation, you can look at it this way, sony vs bang & olufsen, sure you can 'customize' sony, it has more functions, more models etc etc but bang & olufsen is a different league, or casio vs Patek Phillipe

i am very sorry that apple became so popular, because it is now compared to samsung, htc and likes, but it is totally in a league for it self, for me its masterpiece both in looks and in function (function doesnt mean a million options) apple is bang & olufsen, rolls-royce, Patek Phillipe, nokia 8800 in its days, of consumer electronics..

but if you didn't know that by now, you'll never get it, get it?
 
Here is my Slideit Keyboard in white.

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Holy Hell that is uglier than a retarded possum on a meth bender.

That's what always gets me about the Droid argument about customization. Sure, you can customize your OS's look till the cows come home but when I take a look what people think is good design...it's usually pretty lamentable.
 
You do realize that ios does slow down down at times right? There is no such thing as a perfect OS like you'd lead people to believe. As for the design, I'm sorry but I don't consider a phone that is uncomfortable to hold and fragile to be a good design. As for the UI that is a matter of opinion. I do not care for the bubbly looking, glossy, cartoon looking interface. It just looks overdone and cartoonish to me. I don't care for the look of it at all. I much prefer a more minimalist interface. Hence why my device is set up how it is. But then that goes back into the whole being able to customize thing.


It doesn't sound like you have a higher criteria it just sounds like you don't know what you like. Nothing wrong with not knowing what you like, if you need someone to determine it for you that's fine, but everyone doesn't need to be told what to like. Some of us are perfectly capable of doing that ourselves.

the thing is, apple's design is minimalistic, android design is not even a design, its just plain nothingness, some people like it some people dont, but the facts are here

oh, i know exactly what i like, to the smallest detail, and yeah, with very high criteria, believe me, if you had even half of my criteria, android would never be an option..
 
Holy Hell that is uglier than a retarded possum on a meth bender.

That's what always gets me about the Droid argument about customization. Sure, you can customize your OS's look till the cows come home but when I take a look what people think is good design...it's usually pretty lamentable.

An individuals customisation is not indicative of the whole platform.

Below are just a few custom launchers that will change the look of Android from the start with further customisation possible (TouchWiz, Espier Launcher, Launcher 7 and stock Android ICS launcher).

People have different personal tastes, just because you don't like it does not mean it is universally bad.
 

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the thing is, apple's design is minimalistic, android design is not even a design, its just plain nothingness, some people like it some people dont, but the facts are here

oh, i know exactly what i like, to the smallest detail, and yeah, with very high criteria, believe me, if you had even half of my criteria, android would never be an option..

No, actually I require more than you, hence why a grid of bubbly glossy icons doesn't cut it for me. Not only do I want my home screen to look nice, I want functionality out of it. As I've stated now many times in this thread, it would take me opening a few apps and waiting for the data to download on the iphone just to get the same information I can get on my home screen just by turning my phone on. My home screen looks good and it has functionality that will never be achieved by the current state of iOS due to the lack of customizability.
 
No, actually I require more than you, hence why a grid of bubbly glossy icons doesn't cut it for me. Not only do I want my home screen to look nice, I want functionality out of it. As I've stated now many times in this thread, it would take me opening a few apps and waiting for the data to download on the iphone just to get the same information I can get on my home screen just by turning my phone on. My home screen looks good and it has functionality that will never be achieved by the current state of iOS due to the lack of customizability.

different people, different needs absolutely, but im not talking about criteria in function, but criteria in design. i have very low criteria in function, but very high in design, thats why i'll probably always choose apple, i share their philosophy, they are not just a company to me, but a whole concept of beautiful minimalistic design, 'it just works' philosophy out of the box, i dont need a lot of functions, just those basic ones, ever heard of bang & olufsen, same philosophy, minimalistic, beautiful design, no unnecessary functions but state-of-the-art tech (because functions i dont need get in the way, i dont want a remote control with thousand buttons, less is more), i dont even have battery percentage displayed, and i do a lot of thinking before i download an app, do i really need it?? the fewer the things the better, you should see my apartment :D
 
Holy Hell that is uglier than a retarded possum on a meth bender.

That's what always gets me about the Droid argument about customization. Sure, you can customize your OS's look till the cows come home but when I take a look what people think is good design...it's usually pretty lamentable.

Hahahaha I just had to laugh at his first line.
 
No, actually I require more than you, hence why a grid of bubbly glossy icons doesn't cut it for me. Not only do I want my home screen to look nice, I want functionality out of it. As I've stated now many times in this thread, it would take me opening a few apps and waiting for the data to download on the iphone just to get the same information I can get on my home screen just by turning my phone on. My home screen looks good and it has functionality that will never be achieved by the current state of iOS due to the lack of customizability.

From the picture you posted of your home screen, all of that information can be accessed within one swipe of the iOS home screen. No opening of apps and waiting is needed.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14006315/

Heck, most of it is available from the lock screen.
 
From the picture you posted of your home screen, all of that information can be accessed within one swipe of the iOS home screen. No opening of apps and waiting is needed.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/14006315/

Heck, most of it is available from the lock screen.

No. The lock screen does not have a news ticker that updates with current news. Nor does it give severe weather alerts, and none of that is one swipe away. For one, when I do open an app to read current news I have to wait for it all to download as opposed to it already being ready for me as soon as my phone is turned on. There is no functionality like that available due to the fundamentals of iOS.
 
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No. The lock screen does not have a news ticker that updates with current news. Nor does it give severe weather alerts, and none of that is one swipe away. For one, when I do open an app to read current news I have to wait for it all to download as opposed to it already being ready for me as soon as my phone is turned on. There is no functionality like that available due to the fundamentals of iOS.

All of your news alerts and weather alerts are available through push notifications. They are available on the lock screen and the notification center. And automatically updated news apps are available through the newsstand.
 
All of your news alerts and weather alerts are available through push notifications. They are available on the lock screen and the notification center. And automatically updated news apps are available through the newsstand.

You're missing the point completely. These aren't news alerts, it's a ticker. It updates as news comes in, and I can check it whenever I decide to, and since it's scrollable I can quickly move through the headlines and read what I'm interested in. That is not the same thing as an alert. Same is true with the weather. Yes there is an alert for severe weather, but I also have the forecast there also. That widget pops a window that shows the full forecast also. That isn't the same thing as a push notification. Like I said, iOS doesn't have that same functionality.
 
The Nexus is now available through Verizon.

Sigh, lets just hope theres not a million topics about this!

Good luck to Google on their new device!

Don't you mean Samsung?

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You're missing the point completely. These aren't news alerts, it's a ticker. It updates as news comes in, and I can check it whenever I decide to, and since it's scrollable I can quickly move through the headlines and read what I'm interested in. That is not the same thing as an alert. Same is true with the weather. Yes there is an alert for severe weather, but I also have the forecast there also. That widget pops a window that shows the full forecast also. That isn't the same thing as a push notification. Like I said, iOS doesn't have that same functionality.

There are numerous weather apps that have the temperature as an icon for you to see. Just because Android does things differently, doesn't mean the iPhone has no functionality.

Are you Android fanboys so insecure as to your OS of choice that have you have to do this day in and day out? Nobody gives a ****. If people, like me, who have used Android and the rest and hate them, don't let that keep you up at night.
 
yeah, so if i offered you honda civic and mercedes cl you would pick honda, right?

its not about those two cars, its about their relation, you can look at it this way, sony vs bang & olufsen, sure you can 'customize' sony, it has more functions, more models etc etc but bang & olufsen is a different league, or casio vs Patek Phillipe

i am very sorry that apple became so popular, because it is now compared to samsung, htc and likes, but it is totally in a league for it self, for me its masterpiece both in looks and in function (function doesnt mean a million options) apple is bang & olufsen, rolls-royce, Patek Phillipe, nokia 8800 in its days, of consumer electronics..

but if you didn't know that by now, you'll never get it, get it?

First of all, i have nothing against Apple, the iPhone or iOS. It just isnt near as customizable as Android. I can do more, have more options than iPhone does ...which is basically none! Using your car comparison, Sony vs Bang, yada, yada...who cares! Many here have told you it is lame so why keep doing it. I dont care which one you use. Use what you like and not everybody feels the way you do and dont need to tell anybody they "just dont get it" while your just spouting off useless comparisons.

All i did was show that the guy who said the keyboards had the same functuality is dead wrong. You can keep using your paper or plastic comparison if you want and we'll just keep laughing.

Your the one that doesnt get it!
 
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You're what?

I have nothing again Android, but iOS is better if you don't have hours/days of free time to customize things.


Your just annoying. First of all, i have nothing against Apple, the iPhone or iOS. It just isnt near as customizable as Android. I can do more, have more options than iPhone does ...which is basically none! Using your car comparison, Sopny vs Bang, yada, yada...who cares! Many here have told you it is lame so why keep doing it?
I dont care which one you use. Use what you like but your just spouting off useless comparisons. All i did was show that the guy who said the keyboards had the same functuality is dead wrong. You can keep using your paper or plastic comparison if you want and we'll just keep laughing.

Your the one that doesnt get it!
 
I have nothing wrong with folks saying they don't need widgets and like the clean look of iOS. But to completely not understand how useful widgets can be to always have real-time information on the screen for news, stocks, email, calendar, weather, battery, cpu, network, etc. is missing the point entirely.

I use Windows and MacOS at home and work and my screen is full of useful information at a glance so I don't have to open an application everytime I want to do something. I want the same capability on my mobile phone.

But I do see many people who use Windows and MacOS who only have a sea of icons on their screen and nothing else. I guess some people like that, too. Different strokes...
 
You're missing the point completely.

I understand your point. I understand that widgets are different than notifications. I'm saying the same information that you posted in your screenshot is available within one swipe of the iOS homescreen.

These aren't news alerts, it's a ticker. It updates as news comes in, and I can check it whenever I decide to, and since it's scrollable I can quickly move through the headlines and read what I'm interested in. That is not the same thing as an alert.

And with notifications, you can get all the latest headlines from your favorite source, and they are scrollable. Same information. Different ways to access it.

Same is true with the weather. Yes there is an alert for severe weather, but I also have the forecast there also. That widget pops a window that shows the full forecast also. That isn't the same thing as a push notification. Like I said, iOS doesn't have that same functionality.

The weather widget in the iOS notification center shows the same information as your weather widget. One click gets you the latest forecast. Push notifications get you the severe weather alerts.
 
But the info is only what Apple wants to provides and only on the notification screen. Android opens up the entire screen to any application for widgets of any size or shape.
 
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