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Galaxy Nexus vs. iPhone 4S
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He was stating what the reviews have said, and he was correct in his statement. The reviews have been touting it as possibly being the best phone available at the moment (of course that will likely change very soon when the quads come out).
I don't own an iPhone, so I am pretty objective.
Outside: iPhone is better built, you have to enjoy the compactly designed glass to enjoy it.
inside: iOS 5 does not lag, responsive scrolling. And,
iOS is more mature, it is strictly controlled by Apple. Versus Android, which is a lump sum of everyone else like Samsung, Motorola. It is an open source.
It's up to you, but Apple still has very quality stuff, you can't go wrong.
Outside: iPhone is better built, you have to enjoy the compactly designed glass to enjoy it.
inside: iOS 5 does not lag, responsive scrolling. And,
iOS is more mature, it is strictly controlled by Apple. Versus Android, which is a lump sum of everyone else like Samsung, Motorola. It is an open source.
It's up to you, but Apple still has very quality stuff, you can't go wrong.
I would wait for more definitive tests before making any conclusions.
Reading the reviews, I see no mention saying that it is the best phone at the moment, just the best Android phone. Those 3 reviews are also very light. No detailed camera tests or battery tests or even speed tests.
Most reviews are done in this exact format. They didn't do anything out of the ordinary from any other review. They discuss the camera, the battery, and speeds in the reviews, they can only go so far in depth on a review. It sounds like what you'd like to see is a review from someone that uses the phone as their daily driver. Bottom line is these reviews are consistent in their review methods (the same methods used on the iphone) so I have no problem with them...it really just sounds like nitpicking and looking for fault.
No he wasn't. One is probable, the other is definitive. The former suggest there are some reasons it arguably falls short of the latter.
The only definitive statement in those reviews is that the GS is the best Android smartphone. Anything else and you're just reaching.
Thats what annoys me with Android enthusiasts. Exaggerate and/or bend to aid their arguments. Then again thats the way most enthusiasts (Andoid, WP7, Apple etc) operate. Just call a spade a spade.
I agree with the previous poster. OP should just it over and done with and get the GS. In fact i'd rather he doesn't get the 4S because its highly likely he will come back and moan about something...lamenting the fact that he didn't get the GS after all which is what he actually wants.
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Those that experienced ICS, could you give me some insight on how it's better than 2.3 and 3.x please in the following concerns:
- I use iCal and Contacts. Does ICS have better integration, or at least better transitioning to gcal and gcontacts? I still need to use iCal and contacts on my Macs.
- is Skype supporting video chat on the nexus and ICS in general? (since I have to give up FaceTime)
- is the 'find my phone' feature now handled by google, or still just Samsung (which is terrible like a beta version)?
- I love iTunes being one app that does everything (a lot of things), any similar alternatives out there?
- most importantly (a deal breaker), can it now do a complete backup to cloud and to Mac computer?
- I use iCal and Contacts. Does ICS have better integration, or at least better transitioning to gcal and gcontacts? I still need to use iCal and contacts on my Macs.
- is Skype supporting video chat on the nexus and ICS in general? (since I have to give up FaceTime)
- is the 'find my phone' feature now handled by google, or still just Samsung (which is terrible like a beta version)?
- I love iTunes being one app that does everything (a lot of things), any similar alternatives out there?
- most importantly (a deal breaker), can it now do a complete backup to cloud and to Mac computer?
You and I have different definition of 'robust'. I would call what you describe as versatile, flexible, better customization. Robust on the other hand is something that can take some abuse and still works, something that does need less maintainance or tweaking, something that works out of the box. For this reason, I would not call ICS more robust than iOS.
Stop with the word games. "it's possibly even the best phone available today, period." Even the ending suggests what the reviewer was thinking. Plus, I wonder if there is such a quote in iPhone 4S' review.
And, I am honestly, with all my heart trying to decide. None of what I said is wrong. Plus, these are sentences which have never been said for an Android phone. This alone is a genuine excuse for my confusion.
You can't see a big difference in quality of photos in these tests? Really?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-vs-Apple-iPhone-4S-camera-comparison_id24078
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I'll weigh in on this. I've pretty much tested all the high end Android phones out there. I've owned three different versions of the iPhone. For me here is what is important when choosing a phone. Honestly I think its should be the most important aspects of *any* phone.
-Battery Life
-Software Updates (Including .0 upgrades)
-UI responsiveness
-App Selection
-Pocketibility
-Build Quality and Design
-Great Camera
-Media Store Integration (Music, Books, Magazines, Movies)
Now ask yourself if any Android phone can match the iPhone in any of these categories?
The only reason anyone should look at Android is if they live in GMAIL, don't own an iPad for their bigger screen desires, or they live where wifi is no where to be found and they need LTE.
-Battery Life
-Software Updates (Including .0 upgrades)
-UI responsiveness
-App Selection
-Pocketibility
-Build Quality and Design
-Great Camera
-Media Store Integration (Music, Books, Magazines, Movies)
Now ask yourself if any Android phone can match the iPhone in any of these categories?
The only reason anyone should look at Android is if they live in GMAIL, don't own an iPad for their bigger screen desires, or they live where wifi is no where to be found and they need LTE.
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I disagree that the Nexus has a better screen. It's size is huge for me and I would never be able to use it with one hand. The iPhones display is sharper and of better quality.
I also find iOS better than Android.
I disagree that the Nexus has a better screen. It's size is huge for me and I would never be able to use it with one hand. The iPhones display is sharper and of better quality.
I also find iOS better than Android.
May be not 'obsolete', but no longer the 'latest and greatest'. For example, SGS 2 is still very capable and likely upgradable to ICS (eventually). More importantly, the SGS 2 prices dropped as the SGS 2 LTE becomes available. You are right, it won't be long before a newer Android phone is introduced. Perhaps that's the time to be the Galaxy Nexus to get the biggest bang of your bucks.
Excellent post, I would add to the list: 1. Warranty 2. Extended warranty like Apple Care Plus.
I hope you don't mind me plagiarizing you when arguing this point to my Blackberry and Android buddies?
I'll wait for the gsmarena or anandtech reviews before making any conclusions. At lest they do some detailed analysis instead of fluff reviews.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I did the math and the Nexus screen is retina as well, and how can you get sharper than retina? It has a PPI of 315 which is over the retina threshold. I admittedly don't know enough about PenTile screens, but as long as you can't see pixels, wouldn't it still be considered retina?
I also think that it's completely fair to be having the Nexus vs. 4S discussion here. The Nexus is the first phone that has made me even consider moving away from the iPhone, and I've had every generation since the 3G. I think the Nexus and 4S and iOS and ICS are close enough that it all comes down to a matter of taste and opinion now.
Well here's a few quotes from those reviews...
Verge: The Galaxy Nexus is the best Android phone ever made. It's one of the best smartphones ever made, and with a couple of minor tweaks (particularly to the camera), it could be the best smartphone ever produced.
Engadget: Let's not beat around the bush. The Galaxy Nexus is definitely the best Android phone available today -- it's possibly even the best phone available today, period
Very strong words coming from websites that can easily be considered Apple biased. I honestly don't ever recall reading an iPhone review using such words. I think the problem with a lot of the sheep is they bring up old arguments that no longer apply. Especially against an OS that is completely new and you haven't even tried.
So an underclocked "inferior tech" processor at 800mhz is still keeping up with the 1200mhz from the galaxy with 1gb of ram vs. the "paltry 512mb har har".
Just found it interesting. The iPhone is still keeping up nicely. That speaks volumes.
DO you also post on the internet everytime you are buying a new shirt, or a new microwave oven?
Just get it already. Your post already shows you are trying to downgrade the 4S. Why the need to justify your purchase? Are you going to enjoy it less if you do not have the approval of some random forum members?
Never really get this.
Why are you so insecure? Is Apple your company or what? Just don't post here if you are so much bothered.
Never really get this.
Like I said in my first post. You are already saying the Galaxy Nexus a perfect phone so you already have your mind made up.
I'll start by saying that clock speeds are not equal across different processors. That being said, the GNex is underclocked too. That particular processor normally is clocked at 1.5ghz as opposed to the 1.2 it is currently clocked at. So even if the 4s were running at it's full clock speed, if the Gnex were too the outcome would still be the same. Bottom line is they are both underclocked (primarily for battery reasons) 20%, so the 4s being underclocked and it performing how it does says no more than the gnex being underclocked and performing how it does. It's really neither here nor there.
You may not be partial to the screen size but that still doesn't change the fact the screen is better. I'm not a fan of a certain line of Mercedes but I do acknowledge it is better than my Audi A4. I think the more correct thing to say is just that you don't like the size, but to discount the screen would be incorrect.
Yes it would seem we do. When I say robust, I mean complete, having depth, more usability, etc.
More complete? There are plenty of things in iOS that ICS doesn't have and vice versa. I wouldn't say that any is more complete. I've already pointed out some features like better notifications, safari reader and others like airplay, AirPrint, better music syncing (opinion - I do not like drag and drop, I'd rather have it done automatically) and support for full local backups and of course a much better app selection. I'm sure there's more as well.
Usability is also debatable. I think your meaning of "robust" is better customisation and freedom to install and modify just about anything you want.