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Galaxy S3 - First Full Official review for those interested, it doesn't look good.

b166er said:
the S3 is awesome (I honestly do think that). In 3 months it won't be. That's how the android world works. Samsung is, in my opinion, no threat to Apple. The two companies are always feuding because they NEED each other in so many ways. It's like staying together for the kids. And I thank them for it.

Part of getting an iPhone (or most apple products) is the assurance that it will retain its value over the years. Iphone 3Gs's and 4's still fetch a nice amount of money on craigslist. You can almost pay for your upgrades with the resell value on iPhones.
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Yep, thats how it works and when i pick a new one, ill keep it the two years. Im not one to buy two different phones. I wont have the S3 and an iPhone or the newest HTC. Just a waste of money imo.

It was announced today that Goggle will release 5 different Nexus phones in November in celebration of 5 years of Android.

And to the posters who keep saying Android takes a year to get a major update....just exactly how long has it been since iOS 5 came out? iPhone doesnt get a major update for at least a year either which is when the next iPhone comes out. At least with Android if you want to latest OS(like Jelly bean being next) you can get the custom ROM that the Devs will be making IF your device is not set to get Jelly Bean.

But, HTC and others usually get the upgrades and some Samsung phones but yes, they are slow to push them out.

So please stop with the nonsense. Just say you love Apple and be done with it so we dont have to read your weak reasoning.
 
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lordofthereef said:
IME the standard response is that "Apple takes the time to do it right".
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At that point I would ask them about the rumored changes to the new MBP :D

"Oh so what you're saying is that when Apple does something first they're being innovative and are leading the industry in necessary changes but when any other company does something first, they're making poor decisions and are implementing things way too early? And when Apple finally gets around to it, its the perfect time? Interesting..."
 
matttye said:
There are lots of other gestures too. See this video. I especially like the double tap on the top of the phone to scroll to top, and put a palm flat on the screen to mute. :D
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Yet some more reasons why I will be buying the S3, once it comes to the U.S.

The double tap on top of the phone to scroll to the top of a page would be annoying though. There has been an ios jailbreak, which has been around forever, that auto-scrolls to the top by simply tapping the status bar once. Much more intuitive. It's too bad something similar to the tweak 'swipegesture', wasn't incorporated. That's another awesome tweak.
 
onthecouchagain said:
Any time I read something like this about Android, all I hear is someone insecure about their technology and afraid of choice.

This isn't necessarily directed at you Bi66er, but if people are going to compare the SIII with every little device that comes out and then say the SIII is outdated, then you're going to have to do the same with the iPhone. You can't say the iPhone isn't outdated by comparing it to the one-year cycle of next iPhone. If you're going to do that, then compare the one year cycle of the SII to the SIII, or admit that iPhone's technology is also "out of date" any time other phones (Android, Windows, or anything) comes out with better specs.

Consistency.
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What I meant was, right now the S3 is THE Android phone. It's easily the slickest, best phone out there running android and it's gonna sell very well. In a short while, something else from another manufacturer will rival it, at least as far as specs go (but no doubt they won't have the sexy S3 software tweaks). The android world moves really fast because it is used by several different manufacturers. iOS obviously a package deal with iPhone, and iPhones only refresh once a year or so, so the iPhone updates really have to mean something to stay relevant for a whole year. But because the refreshes are slower, the resell value remains higher for the second hand market. You can have an 11 month old iPhone and it's still the newest available model, so for the reseller that's a nice thing.
 
sleek881 said:
That's not a jailbreak feature, its part of stock iOS.
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And silly too. While it works well why put things toward the top? It's like the back/cancel button always being on the upper left.

I notice the stretch when using an iPhone. But when using android I don't. The screen can be 8" if everything I need to touch is at the bottom 2" then I'll always find it easier to use.

The screen size argument always confused me about this. Why are people so concerned if their thumb doesn't reach a place on the screen they never need too touch? Equally confusing is why apple persist to use the furtherest reaches of the screen? They will never be able to increase screen size and the phone be useable one handed.
 
b166er said:
What I meant was, right now the S3 is THE Android phone. It's easily the slickest, best phone out there running android and it's gonna sell very well. In a short while, something else from another manufacturer will rival it, at least as far as specs go (but no doubt they won't have the sexy S3 software tweaks). The android world moves really fast because it is used by several different manufacturers. iOS obviously a package deal with iPhone, and iPhones only refresh once a year or so, so the iPhone updates really have to mean something to stay relevant for a whole year. But because the refreshes are slower, the resell value remains higher for the second hand market. You can have an 11 month old iPhone and it's still the newest available model, so for the reseller that's a nice thing.
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This doesn't explain the 3G to 3GS, or the 4 to 4S. Unless you're talking solely about software changes, in which case, Android too has roughly a ~1 year change (Gingerbread to ICS, for example, or TouchWiz 3 to TouchWiz 4, etc.)

I understand the yearly cycle of iPhones/iOS, and the resale value because of that, but the implication that new devices only make Android phones outdated spec-wise but not iPhones is inconsistent. And again, the entire post isn't necessarily directed at you, but there are a ton of people who somehow magically believe that the iPhone isn't outdated because it doesn't need to be compared to other new devices except its own.
 
I never said iPhone wasn't outdated. Generally all apple products are outdated at the time of their release, and the iPhone is probably the shining example. They wait until the tech gets better or the prices drop, or battery life increases, and probably a hundred other reasons they don't immediately implement new tech.

It's the overall experience that I think keeps people around, certainly it can't be the specs alone. Then again I bet the average iPhone user doesn't know how much RAM their phone has, how many MP the camera is, etc.
 
onthecouchagain said:
This doesn't explain the 3G to 3GS, or the 4 to 4S. Unless you're talking solely about software changes, in which case, Android too has roughly a ~1 year change (Gingerbread to ICS, for example, or TouchWiz 3 to TouchWiz 4, etc.)

I understand the yearly cycle of iPhones/iOS, and the resale value, but the implication that new devices only make Android phones outdated spec-wise but not iPhone phones is inconsistent. And again, the entire post isn't necessarily directed at you, but there are a ton of people who somehow magically believe that the iPhone isn't outdated because it doesn't need to be compared to other new devices except its own.
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Actually it's all in the perception of the user.

iPhone users don't tend to deem their devices as outdated until at least 2-3 gens/years later. And Apple does a good job at not making slightly older devices seem obsolete.

Android users tend to treat previous models according to how big of an upgrade the latest model is. So guess what happens when the latest model is every 2 months. :p

And to often manufacturers don't give a damn anymore about supporting previous models, at least not as well as Apple.
 
0m3ga said:
Yet some more reasons why I will be buying the S3, once it comes to the U.S.

The double tap on top of the phone to scroll to the top of a page would be annoying though. There has been an ios jailbreak, which has been around forever, that auto-scrolls to the top by simply tapping the status bar once. Much more intuitive. It's too bad something similar to the tweak 'swipegesture', wasn't incorporated. That's another awesome tweak.
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As others have said, that's a stock iOS feature.

I would imagine Apple has patented that feature, so Samsung would get sued to oblivion if they used it. I agree it's more intuitive.

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cynics said:
And silly too. While it works well why put things toward the top? It's like the back/cancel button always being on the upper left.

I notice the stretch when using an iPhone. But when using android I don't. The screen can be 8" if everything I need to touch is at the bottom 2" then I'll always find it easier to use.

The screen size argument always confused me about this. Why are people so concerned if their thumb doesn't reach a place on the screen they never need too touch? Equally confusing is why apple persist to use the furtherest reaches of the screen? They will never be able to increase screen size and the phone be useable one handed.
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Putting it at the top is intuitive. It wouldn't make sense to tap the bottom of the screen to scroll to the top of the page/list!

How can you scroll to the top using the bottom two inches of an android phone? Pretty sure Android doesn't have a scroll to top feature.

Your third paragraph doesn't make much sense. You might need to touch any part of the screen; I.e. a web page, or a music track in a list, or any number of other things. Scrolling the list until the track is in reach of the bottom of the screen would be mighty annoying.

FYI: I'm a big fan of larger screens and think 4.7" is easily usable one handed, it's just your post didn't make sense in places. :p
 
0m3ga said:
I stand corrected. Thought I had downloaded this feature with 4.3.3 jb, but I guess I'm wrong?
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Uh, I believe that has always been the case, at least in Apple apps. Maybe it showed up in 1.1.x or something. My 1G iPod certainly has it, and it cannot go above OS 3.1.3. Third party apps may not have it, confusing the issue. But most do that I see.
 
onthecouchagain said:
TouchWiz looks amazing.
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Get some help brotha'

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My first smartphone was the iphone 3g and i have upgraded to all iphones :) i dont change to another OS only because im allready used to ios so atm i dont bother with others phone but android devices specially samsung have put to shame the iphone for a while and probably will continue but a iphone user in most cases wont leave for another OS because how easy and how used to it they have become to the phone and to me is the major plus with apple but you cant deny the fact that the Galaxy S3 is a impresive phone ! And the whole plastic is cheap etc lol i never saw someone complaint about the same with the iphone 3g or 3gs ;) sure the iphone 4 looks a lot better with glass back and aluminium rims and also more fragile.... Blackberrys where the bomb (never used one) and if i remember all where/are plastic housing yet nobody say nothing wrong about it !

The whole android OS is crap is bs , if that is the case then way so many people buy it ? Some are cheap and people go for it but the big boys also sell very well , ios is getting old and will have major problems when big Nokia start getting ground back in with Windows OS wich is looking very nice !

Ps. Sorry for my english :)
 
briantaylor619 said:
Get some help brotha'

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I think you're right. Amazing might have been the wrong word. "Promising" may have been more appropriate. But indeed, some of the gesture base controls, and features (eye-tracking, direct dialing, pop-out video) are really novel. The eye-tracking (knowing when to sleep or keep the device awake based on your eyes?) is really putting the 'smart' in smartphone.
 
onthecouchagain said:
I think you're right. Amazing might have been the wrong word. "Promising" may have been more appropriate. But indeed, some of the gesture base controls, and features (eye-tracking, direct dialing, pop-out video) are really novel. The eye-tracking (knowing when to sleep or keep the device awake based on your eyes?) is really putting the 'smart' in smartphone.
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Just giving you a hard time, it's nothin but love :)

I personally love the S-3 (even though I'm keeping my 4S) as well for what it represents : A shift upward in smartphone technology.

Progress is progress no matter how we get there.
 
nefan65 said:
I was particularly impressed by the flimsy plastic back, and moving wallpaper. :cool:
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You mean the one that won't shatter when you drop it from waist height? :) That's actually pretty standard in the phone market, it's just Apple decided to sacrifice practicability for form.
 
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