Galaxy S3 - First Full Official review for those interested, it doesn't look good.

[marksman]

Does this phone run android?

If it does it is a non-starter.

What percentage of chance does this phone have of running the next major version of android?

Both these things are major drawbacks that really keep this phone from being near the top of the market.

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Thanks for the heads up, as I will be more than happy with my plastic phone.

And your plastic OS.

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Nonsense. I like my iPhone but there are aspects of Android that leave it in the dust.

Like never seen major software updates without buying new hardware?

They destroy Apple in that regard.

Every time you get a new major OS upgrade it feels like you get a new phone with android, because you do!

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If only it ran Windows Phone instead of that crappy Android

This would make the phone 400% better. I am not even sure Android is the third best mobile OS at this point.

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Why are we discussing old news? Let's talk about the Galaxy S4 (six core 3ghz w/ 5.2 inches screen at 1290 * 1020). Recent reviews are saying it still lags.

And it runs ICS

 

[batting1000]

It's not plastic though...

I can easily resist the staleness and restricted iPhone. Needs a bigger screen (width AND height) too.

If you read the beginning of the thread, I was already told it was polycarbonate not plastic. I said I stand corrected.

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Again, your opinion. Some people prefer the secure, fluid, and reliable ecosystem of iOS while others prefer the customization and open aspects of Android. Just depends on what you want. Not saying one's better or worse than the other because I've used both and know what they're both capable and not capable of.

http://techc0re.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/android-or-ios/

 

[Sksftw]

Does this phone run android?

If it does it is a non-starter.

What percentage of chance does this phone have of running the next major version of android?

Both these things are major drawbacks that really keep this phone from being near the top of the market.

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And your plastic OS.

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Like never seen major software updates without buying new hardware?

They destroy Apple in that regard.

Every time you get a new major OS upgrade it feels like you get a new phone with android, because you do!

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This would make the phone 400% better. I am not even sure Android is the third best mobile OS at this point.

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And it runs ICS

Android is actually better I have an phone for work and my personal phone and I just think my android is better it gives you liberty to make it your phone how you like

 

[DroidConvert]

Android is actually better I have an phone for work and my personal phone and I just think my android is better it gives you liberty to make it your phone how you like

There is no way that one is better than the other. They are different and each fills different needs. Arguments can be made for weeks on end and the results will be the same. Some prefer Android and others iOS.

Me, I've had an Android since Verizon released them. Almost 3 years now. But when I get home on Friday I have a 4s waiting for me. It's time for some stability IMO.

 

[kdarling]

Because a 3.5" touch based screen was revolutionary when it came out. It pushed every company. That's why.

It wasn't the screen size itself that was so unusual.

By the time the iPhone came out there had already been over two dozen 3.5" screen smartphones available since 1999, mostly with Windows Pocket PC Phone.

Even WVGA "retina" resolution screens, albeit 3", were available at the time the iPhone went on sale.

Well said!....Samsung didn't come out with a bigger touch screen phone until late 2008, well after the original iPhone.

Actually, in 2002, five years before the iPhone, Samsung came out with a touchscreen smartphone almost exactly the height and width of their current Galaxy Note.

The Nexio S150 had a 5.1" screen at 800x480.

 

[Sksftw]

There is no way that one is better than the other. They are different and each fills different needs. Arguments can be made for weeks on end and the results will be the same. Some prefer Android and others iOS.

Me, I've had an Android since Verizon released them. Almost 3 years now. But when I get home on Friday I have a 4s waiting for me. It's time for some stability IMO.

True I like functions from both I ca never just be on one because il want to use the other

 

[matttye]

Does this phone run android?

If it does it is a non-starter.

What percentage of chance does this phone have of running the next major version of android?

Both these things are major drawbacks that really keep this phone from being near the top of the market.

99% as Samsung have updated the Galaxy S2 (one year old) and Galaxy S (two years old) to ice cream sandwich. Yes it takes them a while, but it does come.

The phone has nine million pre orders, it's going to be near the top of the market, so don't speak too soon also, I think you'll find most people buy their smartphones for what they can do today, not what they can be updated to in a years time.

 

[eastercat]

Yes, we can see how well that phone did since it's the top sell-...oh wait, it's not the top selling phone. It's great that they came out with it early in the game, but they couldn't sell it. Whatever you think of apple, they know how to sell a good number of things.

Actually, in 2002, five years before the iPhone, Samsung came out with a touchscreen smartphone almost exactly the height and width of their current Galaxy Note.

The Nexio S150 had a 5.1" screen at 800x480.

As far as the new sg3 goes, I consider it a sign when ars technica describes it as cheap feeling. Of course, then again, I don't know where the sg3 is in the hierarchy of android phones. Maybe it is in the mid-range category and isn't in the premium category. If it's supposed to be in the primo category, the cheap feeling doesn't bode well.

 

[matttye]

Yes, we can see how well that phone did since it's the top sell-...oh wait, it's not the top selling phone. It's great that they came out with it early in the game, but they couldn't sell it. Whatever you think of apple, they know how to sell a good number of things.


As far as the new sg3 goes, I consider it a sign when ars technica describes it as cheap feeling. Of course, then again, I don't know where the sg3 is in the hierarchy of android phones. Maybe it is in the mid-range category and isn't in the premium category. If it's supposed to be in the primo category, the cheap feeling doesn't bode well.

Samsung like to pack actual features into their phones whilst keeping the built quality acceptable (for most) so they can keep costs down.

You might like paying more for a pretty phone, but I couldn't care less what it looks like as I spent most of my time looking at the screen.

 

[briantaylor619]

Samsung like to pack actual features into their phones whilst keeping the built quality acceptable (for most) so they can keep costs down.

That's what you want in a manufacturer. One that is looking to keep their costs down by using inferior quality materials yeah!

You might like paying more for a pretty phone, but I couldn't care less what it looks like as I spent most of my time looking at the screen.

I call b.s. on this

If the Galaxy S-3 came ONLY in hot pink would you still be singing your high horse tune of "I don't care about looks"? I think not.

You are just as shallow as the rest of us when it comes to looks whether it be cars, clothes, or smartphones... just that the S-3 doesn't look as ugly to you as it does for most people so you try to act high minded about it.

 

[MRU]

Another thread ends up in a glorified pissing contest!







Besides your all wrong! MeeGo is the best mobile OS j/k


I have had a galaxy S2 & Nexus - but to me the plastic feel of Samsung phones doesn't exude quality, it exudes cheapness. I think HTC have come up with an infinitly better design for their flagship phone One X. Doesn't mean the S3 is a poor phone, just aesthetically a little underwhelming to say the least.

Now in my opinion and I respect yours so please read with an open mind (put the penises away please) here are my issues with the Android handsets that really bug me and why though I own an Android handset, I still prefer the iPhone for a number of reasons.

1 - update distribution is a pain on the android platform. I've got a bug in my OS (heck my Nexus couldn't make a phone call for the first month of its life because of the GSM1900 bug) but software updates roll out is very badly handled on Android. First google roll out an update, but then you have to wait for the individual manufacturer to sort itself out, then you have to wait for the carrier to roll it out. It can take months and at times never comes. It's a turgid system and one that could actually really do with an iOS distribution method.

2 - no standardised computer sync software. MAC software for all the handsets are an abomination in all honesty. What google actually needs to do is standardise an iTunes like software for ALL Android handsets, this would rectify the fragmentation of software and the shocking lack of quality in some of the manufacturers software. It would also aid 1 (roll out of software)

3 - inconsistent battery life always seems to plague my Android hand sets. One day you could get a good 24 hours, the next 'seemingly' not using it in any different manner it's dropped to 8 hours ? This then leads to what I can only describe as OCD task managing. Where you feel obliged to check what's running in the back-ground to kill off anything that may be sapping your battery.

4 - fragmentation, yes it is a big problem for Android and for its marketplace. In all honesty I expect there to be at least 4 or 5 variations of the SIII (renamed perhaps) much as there was for the S2, all with fractionally different hardware. Even HTC's flagship One X already exhibits this with Dual Core in one territory and Tegra 3 in another. Why so much fragmentation? This only increases the problems I mention in 1.

5 - marketplace has improved BUT there are still countless instances of apps which supposedly pass the compatibility tests and yet when you install don't work or cause funny issues on your handset. Whilst I praise google for trying to improve compatibility with handsets - its still a fright. Likewise the amount of pure crAPPS (apps that are pure crap) which are just rip offs or dodgy that are on the marketplace is still too prevalent. Google Play a step in the right direction, but not a big enough one.




The problem with Android is one that may not be fixed, because of Googles willingness to allow manufacturers to roll out so many variations of hardware rather than have a set standard | hardware pre-requisit for low, Mid and High performance handsets - thereby making software rollout infinitly easier and marketplace regulation / compatability more reliable - we will probably never see a real fix for Android biggest pitfalls. Likewise unless google do fully clamp down we won't see a standardised Google (iTunes like) software solution, and will have to continue to make do with half baked ****** software support on our mac from manufactures or rely on another third party to try and sync our handsets.

I say this as someone who has owned a Galaxy S2, HTC Sensation, Sensation XE, Galaxy Nexus, and currently a One X. So I'm certainly not 'Anti Android' given the money I've spent in handsets

 

[hot spare]

It wasn't the screen size itself that was so unusual.

By the time the iPhone came out there had already been over two dozen 3.5" screen smartphones available since 1999, mostly with Windows Pocket PC Phone.

Even WVGA "retina" resolution screens, albeit 3", were available at the time the iPhone went on sale.



Actually, in 2002, five years before the iPhone, Samsung came out with a touchscreen smartphone almost exactly the height and width of their current Galaxy Note.

The Nexio S150 had a 5.1" screen at 800x480.

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You know too much!

Seriously, I always find your posts very logical and lot of information that I never knew. Cheers!

 

[VulchR]

Nice thread but wrong forum....

In case somebody hasn't raised this, this thread is more appropriate for the Apple, Industry and Internet Discussion forum than the iPhone forum.

And before I get slammed by AndroidRumors readers, this is what the mods asked us to do when there was a discussion about the (rejected) possibility of opening a subforum for iOS versus other OS comparisons. As for the argument of 'if you don't like the thread, then do not read it', my answer is that if you do not like my post then don't read it. Have a nice day.

 

[matttye]

That's what you want in a manufacturer. One that is looking to keep their costs down by using inferior quality materials yeah!

Define inferior. It may look inferior, but it doesn't break as easily, signals can pass through it more easily and it feels good in the hand.

The iPhone looks like a really nice device, but I'd prefer something with features.

I call b.s. on this

If the Galaxy S-3 came ONLY in hot pink would you still be singing your high horse tune of "I don't care about looks"? I think not.

You are just as shallow as the rest of us when it comes to looks whether it be cars, clothes, or smartphones... just that the S-3 doesn't look as ugly to you as it does for most people so you try to act high minded about it.

You're taking what I said too literally. Obviously I wouldn't buy a hot pink phone

You're probably right, I wouldn't buy a hideous phone, but my standards clearly aren't as high as yours. I can't actually name a hideous phone.

 

[jerrykim16]

It looks ugly as hell. And Samsung said that they were inspired by nature.. wtf to me it looks like a ugly galaxy nexus on steroids... also the blue model looks the worst...

frankly the galaxy s2 actually looks better

 

[DeathChill]

99% as Samsung have updated the Galaxy S2 (one year old) and Galaxy S (two years old) to ice cream sandwich. Yes it takes them a while, but it does come.

The phone has nine million pre orders, it's going to be near the top of the market, so don't speak too soon also, I think you'll find most people buy their smartphones for what they can do today, not what they can be updated to in a years time.

Just want to ask: are you sure the Galaxy S was updated to ICS? As I understand, it wasn't.

As for 9 million pre-orders: that's from carriers. According to Jim Dalrymple (well connected Apple blogger), the only numbers Apple announces are user pre-orders. If they announced carried pre-orders ala Samsung it'd blow them away.

 

[sk1wbw]

Define inferior. It may look inferior, but it doesn't break as easily, signals can pass through it more easily and it feels good in the hand.

The iPhone looks like a really nice device, but I'd prefer something with features.



You're taking what I said too literally. Obviously I wouldn't buy a hot pink phone

You're probably right, I wouldn't buy a hideous phone, but my standards clearly aren't as high as yours. I can't actually name a hideous phone.

The iPhone has features. Just because it isn't made out a milk cartoon doesn't mean it doesn't have features.

 

[MonkeySee....]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... But I don't base my cellphone buying habits around how 'pretty' a phone is. If it does what I want, I will consider buying it.

No, but on the other hand you don't go into a Phone shop looking for the Ugliest handset.

Same rules apply when picking up women

 

[kdarling]

You know too much!

Seriously, I always find your posts very logical and lot of information that I never knew. Cheers!

Thanks! I don't care what people argue about, or like or not like, because in a few years that always changes!

But I, along with many others here, hate to see the decades of tech history and innovations that we lived through, get lost in a sea of recent internet mythology or company worship.

Too many people believe that the history of something began only when THEY became aware of it. E.g. if they became aware of smartphones in 2007, they often have a strange idea of what they were like before that time

Yes, we can see how well that phone did since it's the top sell-...oh wait, it's not the top selling phone. It's great that they came out with it early in the game, but they couldn't sell it. Whatever you think of apple, they know how to sell a good number of things.

Nobody's talking about sales. When that Samsung came out in 2002, the majority of the population had no idea what a smartphone was, and cpus and data were slow and expensive. Apple smartly stayed away from the market at the time because it was still in its infancy.

We're talking about the simple fact that yes, there were 3.5+" screened phones, including at least one very large one from Samsung, before the iPhone.

 

[Dmunjal]

Just want to ask: are you sure the Galaxy S was updated to ICS? As I understand, it wasn't.

As for 9 million pre-orders: that's from carriers. According to Jim Dalrymple (well connected Apple blogger), the only numbers Apple announces are user pre-orders. If they announced carried pre-orders ala Samsung it'd blow them away.

If every carrier order is bought by a user, which is likely the case for both the iPhone and SGS3 in the first few weeks, I don't see there being much difference in sales.

 

[matttye]

Just want to ask: are you sure the Galaxy S was updated to ICS? As I understand, it wasn't.

As for 9 million pre-orders: that's from carriers. According to Jim Dalrymple (well connected Apple blogger), the only numbers Apple announces are user pre-orders. If they announced carried pre-orders ala Samsung it'd blow them away.

I may be mistaken. I thought it was but I'm not completely sure.

No matter what preorders they are it's still impressive, carriers don't preorder the phones because they expect them to sit in the back room gathering dust

The iPhone has features. Just because it isn't made out a milk cartoon doesn't mean it doesn't have features.

It has features.. just not that many

 

[sk1wbw]

I may be mistaken. I thought it was but I'm not completely sure.

No matter what preorders they are it's still impressive, carriers don't preorder the phones because they expect them to sit in the back room gathering dust



It has features.. just not that many

It has the same features as any other handset. Now, the options the OS gives you are different, but the features are the same.

 

[matttye]

It has the same features as any other handset. Now, the options the OS gives you are different, but the features are the same.

LTE? Nope. NFC? Nope. Expandable storage slot? Nope.

Oh what do you know

 

[b24pgg]

We look to the iPhone section for iPhone articles.Vote me down if I'm wrong but I think most will agree.

If that were the case, then no one would respond to these threads. The fact that threads about iPhone competitors are often at the top and always have high comment activity indicates that there is significant interest.

 

[sk1wbw]

LTE? Nope. NFC? Nope. Expandable storage slot? Nope.

Oh what do you know

It can still connect to a cellular network. 4G isn't anything other than a speedy network. That's like saying a Porsche has more features and a Toyota, just because the Porsche has a different engine in it. And who needs expandable storage in the days of 25 gigs Skydrive and 20 gigs of Dropbox and 20 gigs of Box.net storage, all of which I have?