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The original Galaxy S was borderline at 119g for a 4" screen. Of course, the SGS2 went in the opposite direction and not only made the device bigger, but lighter too. But overall it's a combination of the weight and the materials used to build the device so I'd have to judge it on a phone by phone basis.



As above, it's a combination of the weight and materials. There isn't any one particular weight a certain sized device should be, I just want it to feel solid and substantial and at least give the impression that it's worth the £500 or so I've paid for it.

This has to be one of the pickiest wacked out consumers i've ever heard of. I've never heard of anyone with such wild design requirements. Small screen, heavy phone. LOL, this sounds like a gag post to me.
 
I don't get these threads. It comes down to OS, just as it has for the past couple of generations. I prefer iOS, so I have an iphone, and it really doesn't matter what specs the latest android phone has. Specs can't make up for an OS that I'd rather not use. On the other hand, if you like android, there are already phones with better specs than the iphone 4s, so we don't need to imagine the next phone.
 
I don't get these threads. It comes down to OS, just as it has for the past couple of generations. I prefer iOS, so I have an iphone, and it really doesn't matter what specs the latest android phone has. Specs can't make up for an OS that I'd rather not use. On the other hand, if you like android, there are already phones with better specs than the iphone 4s, so we don't need to imagine the next phone.

Just hope over to xda-developers and try counting the number of iPhone threads in each android phone section. Most probably all of them combined in a 6 month period will not be enough to match the number of android ones made here in a week.
 
From Samsung track history with Android in the USA.

Avoid all Samsung Android USA products. They are horroble at updating their products in the US. Blame the carriers, but ultimately it goes back to Samsung.

I can guarantee u iPhone 4s users will get ios 6 way before the S3 gets updated with Jellybean. S3 will ship with ice cream sandwich.

Lets see how long it takes samsung to update current usa S2 to ice cream. My bet is 6 months plus. Europe and Asia will get it sometime in Feb/March while USA users wait and wait.
 
So you've settled with a brand that will give you a new phone that looks the same year to year but only with spec bumps to bring it up to par with phones introduced half a year ago. Ummm...ok. To each his own. :rolleyes:

Personally I'd say it's better to settle for a phone that works really well for you instead of one that doesn't. There's no point in buying something that's a worse fit just because the specification is higher. A higher spec =/= better phone.
 
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The reasons why I chose the iPhone 4s over the GS2 or GN even though it was way more expensive (64GB, factory unlocked, in my case) will still probably be there.
It's not the hardware, it's the software that controls it: photo stream, wireless sync and the rest of iCloud services, iTunes, Siri (not my favorite spec, but very useful at this point). But the most important thing is that apps are so much more polished, games are much better as well, and they both usually are launched sooner on the iPhone. Even the same app usually works better on the iPhone because they are ported to the other platform.
On the other hand, Android's problem is the software itself. They can improve the hardware every month or make the screen bigger if they want, but apps will always be the same, and the fragmentation problem is getting worse. I don't care about the RAM or the CPU anymore, performance is my only concern, and that's better on the iPhone.

Of course, Android has also good things, and I can understand why someone would prefer it over the iPhone sometimes, but to my mind it is no competence. If anything, I'd consider getting a WP7 device when the system is mature enough. Right now, I couldn't be happier with my iPhone 4s. It would have been great to have at least 3.7'' as I was expecting, but the screen size is good anyway, and other than that, the device is just perfect. I can see myself using it for the next few years (unless the iPhone 5 is really worth it, of course).
 
Samsung needs time to copy the new iPhone.



I am sure they will, that's what they do best.




They do it better then Apple does, (just look at all the problems with the 4s) - :eek:


Back on topic .......... :)


The iphone 4 came out, and Samsung answered with the SGS2 -

Now the 4s is out, and Samsung will answer with the S3

So ........ How do you think these 2 phones will compare to each other?
Might you trade the 4s for the GS3?
 
Yes they do it better thAn Apple does, because Apple doesn't copy everything from another successful company.

Stop going off topic Eric!
Apple just failed at copying their own 4 !!! :eek: (where have you been brother?)


Back on topic ..........


The iphone4 came out, and Samsung answered with the SGS2 -

Now the 4s is out, and Samsung will answer with the S3

So ........ How do you think these 2 phones will compare to each other?
Might you trade the 4s for the GS3?
 
I am right here brother (with no complaints) with my 64GB 4S and my wife's 32GB 4. Both work fine, though mine is a little faster and has Siri on it. I would say it's not a fail.

That's like b!tching about the iPhone 3GS being fail copy of the iPhone 3G.

Seems they only change their design model after two similar styles. With the exception of the first version.

Not off topic...just read my signature...I made it for you.


Stop going off topic Eric!
Apple just failed at copying their own 4 !!! :eek: (where have you been brother?)


Back on topic ..........


The iphone4 came out, and Samsung answered with the SGS2 -

Now the 4s is out, and Samsung will answer with the S3

So ........ How do you think these 2 phones will compare to each other?
Might you trade the 4s for the GS3?
 
i have both samsung s2 and iphone 4s.

if i could only have one, itd be the iphone easily.

i think most consumer tech savvy folk (ie care about specs) need to realize a huge part of performance has to do with the OS itself. for me, its also the quality of apps on iOS which are generally unmatched in any other mobile app store.

who cares about bleeding edge specs when software on it blows. i mean there are lots of high end android devices with dual core etc processors but at the time (and still to this date) android 2.3x OS didnt even support/take advantage of it at the OS UI level. by the time my samsung s2 gets ICS support (april 2012) im already looking at the next iphone release.
 
I'm sure the hardware will be fantastic and beat the 4S and even the next iPhone but that fantastic hardware will be brought down by a terrible and unoptimized OS.

As others have said, I'm with the iPhone because of the OS and the ecosystem, Android still does not match that in either performance or quality.

And Android still doesn't have lots of apps that I want/have on the iPhone, TomTom? Sygic? Soulver? Firefox Home? OPlayer? and so on...

Also, Android with all that power still can't play audio in the background what if I want to turn a video in YouTube and just listen to it while browsing the web, you can't do that in Android, you can in iOS.

Also Android still doesn't have a app that will let you easily stream a video like DivX/Xvid/MKV from your Windows/Mac home server share.
 
I'm sure the hardware will be fantastic and beat the 4S and even the next iPhone but that fantastic hardware will be brought down by a terrible and unoptimized OS.

As others have said, I'm with the iPhone because of the OS and the ecosystem, Android still does not match that in either performance or quality.

And Android still doesn't have lots of apps that I want/have on the iPhone, TomTom? Sygic? Soulver? Firefox Home? OPlayer? and so on...

Also, Android with all that power still can't play audio in the background what if I want to turn a video in YouTube and just listen to it while browsing the web, you can't do that in Android, you can in iOS.

Also Android still doesn't have a app that will let you easily stream a video like DivX/Xvid/MKV from your Windows/Mac home server share.

ok well i like iOS better but to be fair:

firefox home? you dont really need that when you have actual firefox on android. navigon is also on both platforms (my preferred nav app for iOS).

as for streaming video, you can try Emit which is supposed to be the equivalent of air video for android.

overall though, iOS is definitely better.
 
I'm sure the hardware will be fantastic and beat the 4S and even the next iPhone but that fantastic hardware will be brought down by a terrible and unoptimized OS.

As others have said, I'm with the iPhone because of the OS and the ecosystem, Android still does not match that in either performance or quality.

And Android still doesn't have lots of apps that I want/have on the iPhone, TomTom? Sygic? Soulver? Firefox Home? OPlayer? and so on...

Also, Android with all that power still can't play audio in the background what if I want to turn a video in YouTube and just listen to it while browsing the web, you can't do that in Android, you can in iOS.

Also Android still doesn't have a app that will let you easily stream a video like DivX/Xvid/MKV from your Windows/Mac home server share.

That's the long and short of it for me too; the problem with Android devices is that they run Android. If they ran iOS (or Windows Phone 7.5 at a push), there'd be stacks of them I'd be interested in buying.
 
I love how apple drones say hardware doesn't matter and only the software matters. Not too long ago, they were bragging about the whole A5 chip and ratina display, samsung comes up with a better hardware, then they flip the entire story and discussion by saying hardware is irrlevent.

Bunch of coward drones.

:rolleyes:
 
I love how apple drones say hardware doesn't matter and only the software matters. Not too long ago, they were bragging about the whole A5 chip and ratina display, samsung comes up with a better hardware, then they flip the entire story and discussion by saying hardware is irrlevent.

Bunch of coward drones.

:rolleyes:

The problem is not Android devices. The problem is Android. You can take an under clock dual CPU's in the iphone and mach it against the Nexus dual 1.2GHZ CPU and on the device the iPhone will still feel more snappy. My iPhone 3GS was amazing, I loved my Nexus S and now I am back to iP4S and glad i am.
 
The difference between iOS and Android in terms of which is snappier or more stable is becoming negligible.

This is good for everyone. It's gotten to a point where it's a matter of slight tradeoffs and differences; and up to each individual to decide which of these differences they want. Either choice is good subjectively obviously, but it's also gotten to the point where either choice is good objectively speaking too.

That's my opinion.
 
I love how apple drones say hardware doesn't matter and only the software matters. Not too long ago, they were bragging about the whole A5 chip and ratina display, samsung comes up with a better hardware, then they flip the entire story and discussion by saying hardware is irrlevent.

Bunch of coward drones.

:rolleyes:

I don't think you can separate the two. The hardware has to run some kind of software else it would just be a pretty paperweight. It's really rather irrelevant how good the hardware is if the software is rubbish. The reverse is probably true too.

The difference between iOS and Android in terms of which is snappier or more stable is becoming negligible.

This. ICS is very slowly closing the gap with iOS. I still think there's a bit of a way for it to go. What's amazing is how that tallies in so well with what Steve Jobs said in January 2007 about being 5 years ahead of the competition :O
 
I've said this so many times but the android vs. iOS debate can be summed up in a couple of lines:

Android is an os for enthusiasts who want to be able to control the os and customise it to how they like it. This comes at a cost of being somewhat more difficult to set up and learn how to use.

The iPhone is the complete opposite. You have very few options and are in a way "protected" from things. This makes for a more fluid, organised experience, but you are vastly limited in what you can do.

I often wonder if the people who say that Android is laggy, messy etc, simply haven't taken the time to learn how to use it properly. If you want a phone that "just works" then an android isn't the right device. It needs to be configured to get the most out of it.

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I am sure they will, that's what they do best.

Speaking of copying...

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...sence-detection-security-for-ios-devices.html

:rolleyes:
 
I've said this so many times but the android vs. iOS debate can be summed up in a couple of lines:

Android is an os for enthusiasts who want to be able to control the os and customise it to how they like it. This comes at a cost of being somewhat more difficult to set up and learn how to use.

The iPhone is the complete opposite. You have very few options and are in a way "protected" from things. This makes for a more fluid, organised experience, but you are vastly limited in what you can do.

I often wonder if the people who say that Android is laggy, messy etc, simply haven't taken the time to learn how to use it properly. If you want a phone that "just works" then an android isn't the right device. It needs to be configured to get the most out of it.

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Speaking of copying...

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...sence-detection-security-for-ios-devices.html

:rolleyes:

Who had face recognition in Q2 2010?
 
It only matters to if your phone is lagging.

The iPhone 4 and 4S do not lag. So with a processor clocked down to 800MHZ it's enough. Fandroids think a phone with a 2GHZ is better and more RAM. If your OS does need more RAM and a faster processor to run smoothly it's just pointless.

Bottom line, if the phone runs smooth with whatever hardware is installed then hardware doesn't matter, it all about personal preference with what OS you prefer.

I love how apple drones say hardware doesn't matter and only the software matters. Not too long ago, they were bragging about the whole A5 chip and ratina display, samsung comes up with a better hardware, then they flip the entire story and discussion by saying hardware is irrlevent.

Bunch of coward drones.

:rolleyes:
 
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