Galaxy S8 plus or keep 7plus

[mib1800]

Havings windows isn't an advantage because I don't want to be tied to it. Being able to start a document on my ipad and finish on my mac or iphone, is more important than being tied to windows. Or picking up a call on any of my devices I have with me including AW, so I don't have to carry my iphone around the house. You CAN'T do those on your galaxy.

Wrong. Sidesync works with Samsung tablet as well. If you dont like windows, your Mac is supported as well.

How about this? Your ipad/mac CAN'T do continuity/hand-off for multiple phones/multiple accounts at the same time. Sidesync can pair both my personal/work phones to multiple tablet/PC/Mac each using different login.

Another downside of apple. To do hand-off/continuity on your idevices, you have to do the extra step to choose which next device to continue on. With Sidesync, I can just put down my phone, go to any of my tablet or PC or mac and continue from there.

I also am not tied into buying Samsung appliances, thankfully to have that type of home automation control.

And yes, you can drag and drop files from your PC using icloud and the new IOS logical file manager.

Seems useless to me when you can log into the website, but to each their own.

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The "ecosystem" such as it is, is piecemeal and not well designed or thought out as apples, and doesn't tie you into buying Samsung refrigerators, or dishwashers or TVs.

You dont seem to sound confident at all here.

Well if you need to separately login to many websites or install many separate clients then you can throw out the window the so-called "great" apple eco-system integration with its half-baked solution and functionality like Files that is "coming soon".

I tell you what is wrong with Apple eco-system. Very simple. Apple tries too hard to reinvent the wheel and then falls flat on its face.

Samsung didnt reinvent the wheel with SideSync but use a time-tested "Remote Desktop" concept that is elegant and simple. All you need to do is just to open a remote desktop to the phone from the tablet/PC/mac and continue your work like what you would do on the phone but with the phone not in your hand.

 

[I7guy]

Wrong. Sidesync works with Samsung tablet as well. If you dont like windows, your Mac is supported as well.

How about this? Your ipad/mac CAN'T do continuity/hand-off for multiple phones/multiple accounts at the same time. Sidesync can pair both my personal/work phones to multiple tablet/PC/Mac each using different login.

Another downside of apple. To do hand-off/continuity on your idevices, you have to do the extra step to choose which next device to continue on. With Sidesync, I can just put down my phone, go to any of my tablet or PC or mac and continue from there.



You dont seem to sound confident at all here.

Well if you need to separately login to many websites or install many separate clients then you can throw out the window the so-called "great" apple eco-system integration with its half-baked solution and functionality like Files that is "coming soon".

I tell you what is wrong with Apple eco-system. Very simple. Apple tries too hard to reinvent the wheel and then falls flat on its face.

Samsung didnt reinvent the wheel with SideSync but use a time-tested "Remote Desktop" concept that is elegant and simple. All you need to do is just to open a remote desktop to the phone from the tablet/PC/mac and continue your work like what you would do on the phone but with the phone not in your hand.

Time tested Remote Desktop? you are just confirming the Apple ecosystem and integration is more cohesive than android/Samsung..in spite of YOUR theoretical limitations.

 

[torana355]

The Apple ecosystem is overrated. I personally won't handicap myself to it because Apple limits what you can do with a product. For the price you pay, you better have the latest and greatest. Lately, that isn't the case with Apple. Gimmicky touch bars, major bezels, no quick charge, no wireless charging. Software wise, you're limited to what they want you to do. For instance, no group FaceTime, no default apps. And that's from someone who owns an iPhone, iPad, and MacBook.

Pretty much nailed it, sure it integrates well together but whats the point when the things you are integrating are featureless and dumbed down. Ill take extra features and flexibility over integration anyday.

The funny thing is my S8 integrates with my MBA running OSX and my Media pc running Windows 10 just fine. Between Google Photos, Google drive and Google Playmusic i have seamless access to all my media across all devices, throw in the Whatsapp web interface and my messaging is also fully integrated. This setup gives me a huge amount of flexibility.

 

[mib1800]

Time tested Remote Desktop? you are just confirming the Apple ecosystem and integration is more cohesive than android/Samsung..in spite of YOUR theoretical limitations.

Apple eco-system Cohesive? Nah. I think the word you are looking for is "convoluted".
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Dex works if they are everywhere, since they won't be in a coffee shop, library or 7 eleven I don't need a Dex at home when I have a fully functional computer.


There are also people reporting usage otherwise. If I ever need to continuously keep the screen on my phone ON for 7 hours I will think about the S8

Battery Saving Tips, I don't want to waste more time finding these for you just google it.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-and-S8-battery-life-test-result-is-out_id92744
Battery Review between S8 and iP7P

I see thats why they place an "Optimise" button there, so that it automatically does everything for you. And they are so smart they send you a notification once a while (at least once a day) ask if you want to put some of the apps to sleep too, and if you feel like sleeping those battery draining apps click on the notification and click "Optimise now". Perfect!

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Thats great, I deal with it already.

I think you yourself just stuck your own foot in your mouth. You keep talking about crap s8 standby battery time. And now you used the phonearena data to backup what you said.

So you declaring that the iPhone 7plus lasted ONLY half an hour longer than s8 with usage and standby (see your phonearena link). So your conclusion is iPhone 7 plus also has a crap standby battery life. Am I right?

 

[I7guy]

Apple eco-system Cohesive? Nah. I think the word you are looking for is "convoluted".

Convoluted applies to the fractured disjointed android ecosystem, imo.

 

[mib1800]

Convoluted applies to the fractured disjointed android ecosystem, imo.

The crux is that even with such handicap Android can still do better by deploying more capable functionalities than apple eco-system.

And this brings us to the next question for discussion. Is Apple really is mediocre or incompetent?

Look at samsung. It actually manufactures HUNDREDS of products and yet it produces some of the most innovative products in every product segment (like mobile, display, appliances, audio visual).

On the flip side, look at apple which sits on the biggest pile of cash and yet it is a laggard with only TENS of products they sell. Offering rehashed design 3 years in a row with nothing innovative to show for. And it does not even make its own products but needs to buy OLED screens from its competitors and have someone else makes its hardware. Only thing I can see apple is innovating is building expensive glitzy Apple stores

Apple is even behind some of the Chinese manufacturers let alone samsung in innovation.

So what have you got to say about this? Why should anyone even consider buying premium priced but mediocre apple products?

 

[I7guy]

The crux is that even with such handicap Android can still do better by deploying more capable functionalities than apple eco-system.

Not if you want the better and more integrated functionalities of the apple ecosystem. But again, this is subjective as to what is better.

And this brings us to the next question for discussion. Is Apple really is mediocre or incompetent?

Or is the ecosystem better than android and is apple a smart, consumer oriented company. If it were going down the tubes one might be inclined to agree, but it clearly is going in the opposite direction.

Look at samsung. It actually manufactures HUNDREDS of products and yet it produces some of the most innovative products in every product segment (like mobile, display, appliances, audio visual).

Disagree with the most innovative part, agree with the hundreds, some are mediocre and some have been on the recall list for various reasons.

On the flip side, look at apple which sits on the biggest pile of cash and yet it is a laggard with only TENS of products they sell. Offering rehashed design 3 years in a row with nothing innovative to show for. And it does not even make its own products but needs to buy OLED screens from its competitors and have someone else makes its hardware. Only thing I can see apple is innovating is building expensive glitzy Apple stores

Apple makes a MASSIVE amount of money on the tens of products they sell. While you can insert your pejorative statement here you can't argue with the success of the company. As far as OLED, it was Kodak, who made it practical in 1987. Samsung is using someones innovation.

Apple is even behind some of the Chinese manufacturers let alone samsung in innovation.

And ahead of Samsung in the total innovative ecosystem.

So what have you got to say about this? Why should anyone even consider buying premium priced but mediocre apple products?

Or overhyped Samsung products?

 

[Geert76]

Why should anyone even consider buying premium priced but mediocre apple products?

As I mentioned before in this an other topics, the majority buys, in this particular case iPhones, cause of the perfect eco system Apple has, the advantages if you have several Apple devices (vendor lock in) and the fact it works out of the box.
Apple ofcourse if fully aware of this.

So Apple can make little to none efforts in innovation when it comes to their yearly new iPhone. Heck, the 6 / 6s and 7 are the perfect examples of this.
Apple knows people are coming back mainly for the eco system, the iPhone working-out-of-the-box and the advantages of having multiple Apple devices ( = vendor lock in).

Because of what I mentioned above, Apple does not have the needs to be innovative with their iPhone, and they are simply not the last few years, and are able to sell premium prices iPhones as if it they are totally new designed iPhones (which is very clear they are not) with hardly any price boundaries.

Millions of people buy the new iPhone every year, as long as Apple sells millions of those so called ''new designed'' iPhones every year, they can just continue releasing new iPhones every year almost identical to the previous one.
As long as Tim Cook uses the words ''best ever'' and ''amazing'' about 327 times every single Keynote, people will believe him on his words, just check the sales numbers

Apple can just sit back, relax, minimal efforts, no need for being innovative (iPhone) and those billions of dollars will come to Cuperthino anyway...no matter what.

I guess every company would like to do business like this: people buying your product no matter what and make billions of $$$ by just releasing almost the same product year after year, after year (iPhone/smartphone)

 

[mib1800]

Not if you want the better and more integrated functionalities of the apple ecosystem. But again, this is subjective as to what is better.

What is not subjective is price to pay is more

Or is the ecosystem better than android and is apple a smart, consumer oriented company. If it were going down the tubes one might be inclined to agree, but it clearly is going in the opposite direction.

Fortune can change overnight esp when apple only has one star product.

Disagree with the most innovative part, agree with the hundreds, some are mediocre and some have been on the recall list for various reasons.

But then again some the products are top notch that even apple have no choice but to buy from them.

Apple makes a MASSIVE amount of money on the tens of products they sell. While you can insert your pejorative statement here you can't argue with the success of the company.

Great that apple makes 40% of profit/revenue from its home country.

As far as OLED, it was Kodak, who made it practical in 1987. Samsung is using someones innovation.

This is over simplifying and you know it.

And ahead of Samsung in the total innovative ecosystem.

Only in limited scope of having the same apple logo stamped on each of the hardware casing.

Or overhyped Samsung products?

Nothing compared to apple overhype that can stir frenzy in the sheeple crowds to queue days in advance.

 

[I7guy]

What is not subjective is price to pay is more

What is subjective is value though.

Fortune can change overnight esp when apple only has one star product.

Yep, an often trotted out comment on this forum as Apple heads to the first trillion dollar company.

But then again some the products are top notch that even apple have no choice but to buy from them.

Short lived only as Apple is investing in other technologies and has multiple suppliers as well as these supplies would literally kill for Apple business.

Great that apple makes 40% of profit/revenue from its home country.

Yeah, bully for Apple.

This is over simplifying and you know it.

A lot of this unfortunately combined with hyperbole.

Only in limited scope of having the same apple logo stamped on each of the hardware casing.



Nothing compared to apple overhype that can stir frenzy in the sheeple crowds to queue days in advance.

was waiting for the insults based on generalizations. That poor dead horse.

 

[mib1800]

was waiting for the insults based on generalizations. That poor dead horse.

Kill time banter is like that.

 

[Geert76]

was waiting for the insults based on generalizations.

pffff... you're using that ''insult'' word over and over and over....again. I see that word in a lot of your posts. Yeah, by now we already know that you are insulted very, very quickly (even if its clear that people are not insulting you in their replies )

Try to come with something else.