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Why buy an S8 where a cheaper OnePlus 3T is faster and even better at multitasking. People are being fooled by shiny screens.
The form factor, it looks way better, better battery life, some actually like the functions that Grace UI offers. And not talking about the screen, that screen run circles around the OP3T's screen.
 
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The form factor, it looks way better, better battery life, some actually like the functions that Grace UI offers. And not talking about the screen, that screen run circles around the OP3T's screen.
It's 95% of the s8 at 50% of the price. If people don't balk at paying the price of an s8, they shouldnt balk at paying the price of an iPhone, was the point being made.
 
It's 95% of the s8 at 50% of the price. If people don't balk at paying the price of an s8, they shouldnt balk at paying the price of an iPhone, was the point being made.
He didn't mention anything about that the galaxy being as expansive as an iPhone, so I don't think that was the point of his post.
Anyway 95%? How are you coming up with that number? The Oneplus 3T is in some tasks a millisecond faster than the S8, in some some other tasks the S8 is faster. Pretty much everything else is better on the S8.
 
He didn't mention anything about that the galaxy being as expansive as an iPhone, so I don't think that was the point of his post.
Anyway 95%? How are you coming up with that number? The Oneplus 3T is in some tasks a millisecond faster than the S8, in some some other tasks the S8 is faster. Pretty much everything else is better on the S8.
My point is that on Android, there are much better buy than Samsung.
Both phones run the same apps. The OnePlus 3T has more RAM than the S8, and in real life it is more usable as it doesn't have to reload apps as often. Meanwhile Samsung doesn't have good memeory management. The only version of the S8 that can match the 3T is the high end one with more RAM that is only available in S.Korea (and even more expensive).
The only thing the S8 is really better at is just water proofing, but that isn't worth paying double. If you buy an Android phones only for bling and to show people you are rich, then the S8 is a good choice.
 
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My point is that on Android, there are much better buy than Samsung.
Both phones run the same apps. The OnePlus 3T has more RAM than the S8, and in real life it is more usable as it doesn't have to reload apps as often. Meanwhile Samsung doesn't have good memeory management. The only version of the S8 that can match the 3T is the high end one with more RAM that is only available in S.Korea (and even more expensive).
The only thing the S8 is really better at is just water proofing, but that isn't worth paying double. If you buy an Android phones only for bling and to show people you are rich, then the S8 is a good choice.
Yeah exactly that was your point and not what that other dude claimed.
Exonys version handles RAM-management just as good as the OP3T. If you would ask people what they looking for when buying a new phone the most common factors would be design, camera, battery life and screen. On all those points Galaxy S8 is better. So saying that OP3T is better on everything except waterproofing is just silly.
 
Yeah exactly that was your point and not what that other dude claimed.
Exonys version handles RAM-management just as good as the OP3T. If you would ask people what they looking for when buying a new phone the most common factors would be design, camera, battery life and screen. On all those points Galaxy S8 is better. So saying that OP3T is better on everything except waterproofing is just silly.
The other dude disagrees what are the common factors in peoples minds. If that were in fact true, apple wouldn't sell one iphone. So either your criteria are wrong or the weighting as you believe people value them is incorrect. However, even if the s8 is better as you claim, there is a law of diminishing returns that theoretically should apply here, but it really doesn't, which means people are kind of price insensitive at this price point, imo.
 
Yeah exactly that was your point and not what that other dude claimed.
Exonys version handles RAM-management just as good as the OP3T. If you would ask people what they looking for when buying a new phone the most common factors would be design, camera, battery life and screen. On all those points Galaxy S8 is better. So saying that OP3T is better on everything except waterproofing is just silly.
Again, as I already said, if your intention in buying an Android phone just for bling or to show others that you are rich, then the S8 is a good choice. Objectively, the 3T is still the better bang for the buck.

And no, it's not about the exynos or snapdragon, it's Samsung's software. The regular exynos version is as inefficient in reloading apps.
 
My point is that on Android, there are much better buy than Samsung.
Both phones run the same apps. The OnePlus 3T has more RAM than the S8, and in real life it is more usable as it doesn't have to reload apps as often. Meanwhile Samsung doesn't have good memeory management. The only version of the S8 that can match the 3T is the high end one with more RAM that is only available in S.Korea (and even more expensive).
The only thing the S8 is really better at is just water proofing, but that isn't worth paying double. If you buy an Android phones only for bling and to show people you are rich, then the S8 is a good choice.
Again, as I already said, if your intention in buying an Android phone just for bling or to show others that you are rich, then the S8 is a good choice. Objectively, the 3T is still the better bang for the buck.

And no, it's not about the exynos or snapdragon, it's Samsung's software. The regular exynos version is as inefficient in reloading apps.

Looking at retail price point of view, the 3T definitely has a better utility/price ratio or value for money. But to be fair, 3T is already EOL (with the OP5 announced) so price has been reduced quite substantially.

But I have to say the S8 is the 2nd most over-priced phone now after Iphone. I still bought one on impulse. I would not have if it just look like any of the phone out there. The break through design/infinity display (plus all the other high-end spec hardware) is too enticing and worth paying the extra, imo.

But before i7guy jumps in, no, the iphone 7 design is tired/outdated plus a mediocre hardware (relative to S8) is not worth paying the premium price (that is more expensive than s8).

I think your point about RAM management is just nitpick. Similar to apple fans talking about how "smoothness" of their iphone is the thing to end all things. In most typical use case scenario, there wont be that much difference in performance between the 3T and S8. Even if there is the difference is not that perceptible to affect usability. But hardware-wise, the S8 camera, water-proofing, screen are certainly much better than 3T.
 
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The S8 Battery life is better then the iPhone 7 plus in all areas except standby.

Yes, Standby is garbage! I wasn't expecting this kind of "Battery" performance on the S8+ Snapdragon. It great that some of you got awesome batteries and will last you the whole day, maybe because its an Exynos. But for me only the iPhone Plus will make it through my day.
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Not sure what you did with your S8. But many in S8 thread reported very good battery life with 6-7 hrs SOT over a 20 hrs period without turning off this and that. No review I have read said the good battery life is gotten with turning off those things. My S8+ got about 6 hrs SOT over 16 hrs but mine has lots of background apps/widgets sync and automation tasks running.

Well, iphone puts all apps to sleep if you are not using them so you get better standby at the expense of background multi-task. S8 puts apps to sleep systematically when you have not touched or used them for 3 days so these apps don't wake up and consume battery.

If you dont use your iphone much, then battery life may be better. But if you use iphone heavily everyday then the battery life wouldnt be better than the S8+.


I am not an uber driver don't need my phone to be on continuously for six hours. Overall you said it, S8 is not optimize to handle the different battery situations.
 
Yes, Standby is garbage! I wasn't expecting this kind of "Battery" performance on the S8+ Snapdragon. It great that some of you got awesome batteries and will last you the whole day, maybe because its an Exynos. But for me only the iPhone Plus will make it through my day.
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I am not an uber driver don't need my phone to be on continuously for six hours. Overall you said it, S8 is not optimize to handle the different battery situations.

Then you must be doing things wrong with s8 or you are not truthful.

This is my battery use info. Look at discharge rate is just 8% over 11 hours when screen is off. When screen is on battery use is about 10% per hour.

So what you say about the battery use of s8 is garbage.

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Looking at retail price point of view, the 3T definitely has a better utility/price ratio or value for money. But to be fair, 3T is already EOL (with the OP5 announced) so price has been reduced quite substantially.

But I have to say the S8 is the 2nd most over-priced phone now after Iphone. I still bought one on impulse. I would not have if it just look like any of the phone out there. The break through design/infinity display (plus all the other high-end spec hardware) is too enticing and worth paying the extra, imo.

But before i7guy jumps in, no, the iphone 7 design is tired/outdated plus a mediocre hardware (relative to S8) is not worth paying the premium price (that is more expensive than s8).

I think your point about RAM management is just nitpick. Similar to apple fans talking about how "smoothness" of their iphone is the thing to end all things. In most typical use case scenario, there wont be that much difference in performance between the 3T and S8. Even if there is the difference is not that perceptible to affect usability. But hardware-wise, the S8 camera, water-proofing, screen are certainly much better than 3T.
1. That makes the 3T an even better buy
2. Agree that the S8 is overpriced, disagree that the iPhone is. At least Apple offers longer and worldwide support for its price, and any business knows that support is not cheap. Samsung wants your money but don't want to deal with you afterwards. On the other hand, Samsung prices tend to fall after release, reducing the pain a bit.
3. The S8 barely beats the iPhone 6S (A9). The A10 is still the fastest and most efficient SoC on the market.

I still hold on my statement. For an Android phone, get the S8 only if you want bling (like the screen as you said) and status symbol (to show others you are rich). Now I didn't say that's bad. If that's how you rock, go for it. Other than that, the 3T is the better buy than the S8.

Personally, I think the 3T is overpriced as well as the Xiaomi Mi6 offers even better hardware for less. In Android, there's no point in wasting money on a Samsung/Sony/HTC/etc when Xiaomi can deliver better for a LOT less. Heck I can buy a new Xiaomi every 6 months and don't have to worry about updates, while still have money in the bank.
 
Then you must be doing things wrong with s8 or you are not truthful.

This is my battery use info. Look at discharge rate is just 8% over 11 hours when screen is off. When screen is on battery use is about 10% per hour.

So what you say about the battery use of s8 is garbage.

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Yeah what do I get from lying about my experience with my S8+, I sold it already and brought a brand new iPhone 7 Plus AGAIN! because I gave my old one to my mom. I am happy with its "battery" performance and I am glad you are happy with yours. TA TA for now!
 
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Looking at retail price point of view, the 3T definitely has a better utility/price ratio or value for money. But to be fair, 3T is already EOL (with the OP5 announced) so price has been reduced quite substantially.

But I have to say the S8 is the 2nd most over-priced phone now after Iphone. I still bought one on impulse. I would not have if it just look like any of the phone out there. The break through design/infinity display (plus all the other high-end spec hardware) is too enticing and worth paying the extra, imo.

But before i7guy jumps in, no, the iphone 7 design is tired/outdated plus a mediocre hardware (relative to S8) is not worth paying the premium price (that is more expensive than s8).

I think your point about RAM management is just nitpick. Similar to apple fans talking about how "smoothness" of their iphone is the thing to end all things. In most typical use case scenario, there wont be that much difference in performance between the 3T and S8. Even if there is the difference is not that perceptible to affect usability. But hardware-wise, the S8 camera, water-proofing, screen are certainly much better than 3T.
Glad we're discussing some subjective as looks. Tired and outdated to you is classy and classic to me.
 
Yes, Standby is garbage! I wasn't expecting this kind of "Battery" performance on the S8+ Snapdragon. It great that some of you got awesome batteries and will last you the whole day, maybe because its an Exynos. But for me only the iPhone Plus will make it through my day.

Well the standby time is not what stops you from lasting the whole day, not unless there is something very very wrong with your device. My S8 Plus loses around half a percent an hour on standby, hardly enough to drain your battery in a day. Sure the iPhone losses next to nothing over the same period but its actual Screen on time that matters and the S8 wins that battle easily, look at any one of the Battery comparisons on You Tube for evidence.
 
1. That makes the 3T an even better buy
2. Agree that the S8 is overpriced, disagree that the iPhone is. At least Apple offers longer and worldwide support for its price, and any business knows that support is not cheap. Samsung wants your money but don't want to deal with you afterwards. On the other hand, Samsung prices tend to fall after release, reducing the pain a bit.
3. The S8 barely beats the iPhone 6S (A9). The A10 is still the fastest and most efficient SoC on the market.

If you are basing that 3T can do as much as S8 software-wise so it is better buy at lower price. So from this Iphone is much more way overpriced since its software can do much less than S8 and yet priced higher than S8, isnt it?

You have to be consistent in your argument. Your premise for S8 vs 3T is purely based on specs. Now when it comes to iphone you want to bring in "support" as a factor. Who do you think will give better support worldwide - Oneplus or Samsung?

And a phone is not just SoC alone. Even if iphone SoC is better so what? Iphone is so limited in its functional capabilities/spec so it is still behind s8 and thus the Iphone is much more over-priced from a value point of view which is in congruent with your argument.

I still hold on my statement. For an Android phone, get the S8 only if you want bling (like the screen as you said) and status symbol (to show others you are rich). Now I didn't say that's bad. If that's how you rock, go for it. Other than that, the 3T is the better buy than the S8.

Let me ask you . Why do people still buy iphone 7 when there is no "bling" to speak of and also being outclassed in software and hardware capability not just by the S8 but also by the 3T? This is more illogical to me but I bet I7guy can give you tonnes of reasons.

Personally, I think the 3T is overpriced as well as the Xiaomi Mi6 offers even better hardware for less. In Android, there's no point in wasting money on a Samsung/Sony/HTC/etc when Xiaomi can deliver better for a LOT less. Heck I can buy a new Xiaomi every 6 months and don't have to worry about updates, while still have money in the bank.

If your point is correct then Apple will fall much harder than Samsung. I remember the time when people were willing to fork out huge dollars for so-called "premium" Pioneer DVD player and Sony TV but in actuality those products are not more functional or better. It is just the branding. Apple is more about branding than the rest.
 
Well the standby time is not what stops you from lasting the whole day, not unless there is something very very wrong with your device. My S8 Plus loses around half a percent an hour on standby, hardly enough to drain your battery in a day. Sure the iPhone losses next to nothing over the same period but its actual Screen on time that matters and the S8 wins that battle easily, look at any one of the Battery comparisons on You Tube for evidence.

The reviews are bollocks some are saying its better others are saying its worst don't know which to believe. It is my experience of MY two weeks with the S8+ I want to share, its totally fine if all of you don't agree with me. For your information, I am using both phones in the exact same way. I don't watch videos, I don't play any games, all I am doing is emails, few phone calls, instant messaging, social apps, read the news and I don't take pictures too (maybe once a week).
 
Yeah what do I get from lying about my experience with my S8+, I sold it already and brought a brand new iPhone 7 Plus AGAIN! because I gave my old one to my mom. I am happy with its "battery" performance and I am glad you are happy with yours. TA TA for now!

Like I say many reported s8 have good battery life. Maybe your experience does not represent the normal. To call it garbage is a bit over the top when it may not representative
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Glad we're discussing some subjective as looks. Tired and outdated to you is classy and classic to me.

Then you are outclassed :)

Look in web and virtually all reviews (and every one that commented on it) said the s8 looks better.
 
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The other dude disagrees what are the common factors in peoples minds. If that were in fact true, apple wouldn't sell one iphone. So either your criteria are wrong or the weighting as you believe people value them is incorrect. However, even if the s8 is better as you claim, there is a law of diminishing returns that theoretically should apply here, but it really doesn't, which means people are kind of price insensitive at this price point, imo.
We are comparing S8 with OnePlus 3T, not the iPhone.
 
Again, as I already said, if your intention in buying an Android phone just for bling or to show others that you are rich, then the S8 is a good choice. Objectively, the 3T is still the better bang for the buck.

And no, it's not about the exynos or snapdragon, it's Samsung's software. The regular exynos version is as inefficient in reloading apps.
Well agree to disagree
 
If you are basing that 3T can do as much as S8 software-wise so it is better buy at lower price. So from this Iphone is much more way overpriced since its software can do much less than S8 and yet priced higher than S8, isnt it?

You have to be consistent in your argument. Your premise for S8 vs 3T is purely based on specs. Now when it comes to iphone you want to bring in "support" as a factor. Who do you think will give better support worldwide - Oneplus or Samsung?

And a phone is not just SoC alone. Even if iphone SoC is better so what? Iphone is so limited in its functional capabilities/spec so it is still behind s8 and thus the Iphone is much more over-priced from a value point of view which is in congruent with your argument.



Let me ask you . Why do people still buy iphone 7 when there is no "bling" to speak of and also being outclassed in software and hardware capability not just by the S8 but also by the 3T? This is more illogical to me but I bet I7guy can give you tonnes of reasons.



If your point is correct then Apple will fall much harder than Samsung. I remember the time when people were willing to fork out huge dollars for so-called "premium" Pioneer DVD player and Sony TV but in actuality those products are not more functional or better. It is just the branding. Apple is more about branding than the rest.
Have you dealt with Samsung support? Sony? HTC? I have. And it is arguably no different than having no support. So why pay the premium? At least when I have an iPhone, I can go to any Apple Store around the world. Samsung, Sony, and HTC all will refuse support for non-local phones, even if it's the same model. So knowing that, why should I pay the premium for Samsung? Might as well get a Xiaomi.

iPhone and Android don't run the same set of apps. They are different platforms. Sure there are devs who made their apps available on both platforms, but you cannot claim both platforms have the same apps. I have apps on my iPhone that is not available on Android. Meanwhile, my Xiaomi can run all the apps the S8 can. So why pay more for a Samsung if I am into Android?

If I want an iPhone, I get an iPhone, whether I want bling or not. On Android, since there are obvious devices that give better value than Samsung, buying Samsung is more about buying bling and/or status symbol. Now like I said, there's nothing wrong with that, so I don't know why you get so offended.
 
Battery is not good enough

Good enough to thrash the Iphone 7 plus in drain test.
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Have you dealt with Samsung support? Sony? HTC? I have. And it is arguably no different than having no support. So why pay the premium? At least when I have an iPhone, I can go to any Apple Store around the world. Samsung, Sony, and HTC all will refuse support for non-local phones, even if it's the same model. So knowing that, why should I pay the premium for Samsung? Might as well get a Xiaomi.

iPhone and Android don't run the same set of apps. They are different platforms. Sure there are devs who made their apps available on both platforms, but you cannot claim both platforms have the same apps. I have apps on my iPhone that is not available on Android. Meanwhile, my Xiaomi can run all the apps the S8 can. So why pay more for a Samsung if I am into Android?


In that case can buy the C9 Pro or A-series which are lower priced and yet can do everything xiaomi and oneplus can do. Of all the samsung I have owned over the years, none of them needed to go back to service center. Maybe I am lucky or maybe I don't hold the phone for too long. So I don't really know Samsung service is. What I know is their service centre only do warranty repair for locally bought phones. If your phone is bought in another country, you have to pay for repair eventhough it is under warranty. I don't know how Apple warranty is. Does it cover worldwide or not?

If I want an iPhone, I get an iPhone, whether I want bling or not. On Android, since there are obvious devices that give better value than Samsung, buying Samsung is more about buying bling and/or status symbol. Now like I said, there's nothing wrong with that, so I don't know why you get so offended.

Why should iphone be different? You use the iphone in the same context as you use an android phone. Android and iphone are competing against each other so there should not be double-standard when it comes to iphone.

btw: I am not offended. And alsothis thread is about the iPhone 7 vs s8.
 
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Have you dealt with Samsung support? Sony? HTC? I have. And it is arguably no different than having no support. So why pay the premium? At least when I have an iPhone, I can go to any Apple Store around the world. Samsung, Sony, and HTC all will refuse support for non-local phones, even if it's the same model. So knowing that, why should I pay the premium for Samsung? Might as well get a Xiaomi.

iPhone and Android don't run the same set of apps. They are different platforms. Sure there are devs who made their apps available on both platforms, but you cannot claim both platforms have the same apps. I have apps on my iPhone that is not available on Android. Meanwhile, my Xiaomi can run all the apps the S8 can. So why pay more for a Samsung if I am into Android?

If I want an iPhone, I get an iPhone, whether I want bling or not. On Android, since there are obvious devices that give better value than Samsung, buying Samsung is more about buying bling and/or status symbol. Now like I said, there's nothing wrong with that, so I don't know why you get so offended.
If all you care about is running apps, then sure go for a cheaper alternative like OP3T. But if you want a good camera and a screen that doesn't look like **** then you have to pay up. That's mostly how it works in the android world.
 
Like I say many reported s8 have good battery life. Maybe your experience does not represent the normal. To call it garbage is a bit over the top when it may not representative
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Then you are outclassed :)

Look in web and virtually all reviews (and every one that commented on it) said the s8 looks better.
Until the reviewers pay my bills and buy my phones putting my dollars where my mouth is what counts.:D So I get to determine what hardware, software and what looks better.:cool: Subjectively.
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We are comparing S8 with OnePlus 3T, not the iPhone.
Actually the thread is about the iPhone vs galaxy, but i was making a side remark about the iPhone.
 
Until the reviewers pay my bills and buy my phones putting my dollars where my mouth is what counts.:D So I get to determine what hardware, software and what looks better.:cool: Subjectively.
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Actually the thread is about the iPhone vs galaxy, but i was making a side remark about the iPhone.
The thread yes, the discussion right there no. But yeah what a side remark you did there.
 
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