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When you have 6+ months to copy your chief competitor it's really bad if you can't one-up them...

Please show us where apple is using a dedicated dram sensor and using a f1.5 variable aperture.

It's also 4 months!
 
Well, if a smartphone really wanted to top the ratings here they need to increase the sensor size. People don’t realize how much data manipulation is done to hide noise and massage the data into pleasing tone curves. The first smartphone to use a sensor at least 50% larger in surface area, while not adding useless megapixels, will find themselves outdistancing the rest. It may require a bit thicker camera module but on the bright side it leaves room for a bigger battery...
 
Well new tech should be better and shows how good cameras are on smart phones these days


Should be “Better”? Smart phone cameras are so close in comparison with photo’s, it’s almost negligible with the differences to the average consumer. All these smart phone cameras take amazing photo’s, and comparing results with smart phones today is very close in quality.
 
So many in here have their butt hurt for naught: a bunch of de-facto members of an Apple Defense Force, who take arms whenever Apple is slighted -- even if insignificantly so.

The only way to tell the quality of a picture is to render the picture on large-size format.

Then you will be able to see the optical artifacts introduced by the limited sensor on these mobile phones. Samsung. Apple, Google, or ... -- does not matter. But if you render them on the native display, or even on your computer, you will be hard pressed to see substantial differences, unless the pictures are compared side-by-side.

Just R.E.L.A.X. Capture the moment, and call it the day.
 
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Pros don't use smartphone cameras. :D

I took photos with my X this weekend at a family member's new dental practice, just for myself and to show others. There was a professional there taking the "official" photos. I was told that my photos were much better and that they will be using them on the web site instead of his.............or maybe the professional just wasn't very good :rolleyes:
 
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Please show us where apple is using a dedicated dram sensor and using a f1.5 variable aperture.

It's also 4 months!

I was being generous with the 6-months - it's probably longer. The point being that Samsung is always going to have intimate knowledge of what Apple is doing in most (if not all) areas since they are a supplier and have to bid on contracts. On the other hand Apple would never really know what Samsung is up to. It's a competitive advantage for Samsung - one they've never really been able to capitalize on since Apple has always been the profit-margin king.
 
The photos were not taken at the same time and it is difficult to compare light when the photos were taken at different times. Please note that in the Samsung photo, there are is one person to the right of the building and another one out in the foliage under the trees. In the Apple photo, there are 3 people out under the trees and no one near the building. Even a few minutes can change the ambient light (think sunset). Any competition should have both cameras set up side by side on tripods and photo snapped at the same time.
 
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Awesome marketing, once a year make everyone feel inferior with their current products. Capitalism at its best.

Nothing wrong with showcasing the technology and improvements, which result from said capitalism.

Having said that, my iPhone 6 takes such garbage quality photos that I pretty much never use it. Everything looks like an oil painting.
 



DxO today said Samsung's new Galaxy S9 Plus has the best smartphone camera it has ever tested. The device earned the highest-ever DxOMark score of 99, topping both the Google Pixel 2 and iPhone X, which scored 98 and 97 respectively.

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In its review, DxO said the Galaxy S9 Plus camera lacks any "obvious weaknesses" and "performs very well across all photo and video test categories," which will make it a compelling choice for photography-minded smartphone users.While the Galaxy S9 Plus has a 12-megapixel dual-lens rear camera like the iPhone X, a key new feature is variable aperture, which means the lenses can adapt to various lighting conditions just as the human eye would, and automatically let in more light when it's dark and less when it's too bright.

In dim conditions, the rear camera uses a very fast f/1.5 aperture to maximize light capture, according to DxO. In brighter light, it switches to a slower f/2.4 aperture for optimized detail and sharpness.

DxO found the Galaxy S9 Plus produces "excellent results" in bright light and sunny conditions, with vivid colors, good exposures, and a very wide dynamic range. The autofocus wasn't the very fastest DxO has ever tested, but they said it's more than fast enough not to be an issue for any user.

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Galaxy S9+

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iPhone X

While the review crowned the Galaxy S9 Plus as an "excellent bright-light performer," DxO still experienced some "fairly minor issues" in those conditions. Some of its photos had "purple fringing on high-contrast edges" and "pretty noticeable" ringing halos, while others had "slight blue or pink color casts."

DxO said the Galaxy S9 Plus's performance in dimmer conditions is "equally impressive," yielding photos with "nice exposures with vivid color, accurate white balance, low noise, and good texture in low-light conditions."

The rear camera earned top marks in several other areas, including autofocus, zoom, flash, and bokeh, exposure, contrast, and color accuracy, so be sure to read the full-length review for more detailed analysis.

To determine scoring in its smartphone camera reviews, DxOMark said its engineers capture and evaluate over 1,500 test images and more than two hours of video, both in controlled lab environments and in natural indoor and outdoor scenes, using the camera's default settings. This article explains more about the methodology.

DxO's smartphone camera reviews are well known, but they've also attracted some criticism, since the overall quality of a camera is subjective. When comparing dynamic range on the Galaxy S9 Plus, Google Pixel 2, and iPhone X, for example, DxO itself said the results are "pretty much a question of personal preference."

For those interested, here is DxO's review of the iPhone X camera. But reviews from professional photographers like Austin Mann may be more valuable. Together, they provide good technical and real-world insight.

Galaxy S9 and Galaxy S9+ can be pre-ordered starting today for $720 and $840 respectively. The smartphones launch March 16.

Article Link: Galaxy S9+ Tops iPhone X as Best Smartphone Camera Ever in DxO's Controversial Rankings
 
I was being generous with the 6-months - it's probably longer. The point being that Samsung is always going to have intimate knowledge of what Apple is doing in most (if not all) areas since they are a supplier and have to bid on contracts. On the other hand Apple would never really know what Samsung is up to. It's a competitive advantage for Samsung - one they've never really been able to capitalize on since Apple has always been the profit-margin king.

Apple does not use a samsung camera sensor.they make and develop there own.
 
The iPhone has better color and detail, the Samsung looks a little washed out. Also, if you look carefully they were not taken at the same time. Orientation, shadows and location of objects in pictures are different. Nice try though...
 
I took photos with my X this weekend at a family member's new dental practice, just for myself and to show others. There was a professional there taking the "official" photos. I was told that my photos were much better and that they will be using them on the web site instead of his.............or maybe the professional just wasn't very good :rolleyes:

That is amazing! Maybe you should become a professional. Photography is so simple that anyone can do it these days. Just point and click. Wallah!
 
I still feel like the iPhone picture is a Truer representation of what is actually seen by the eye. The levels in the Samsung photo look much higher than they should be and brightness seems to take precedence over depth of color..

I feel the same from my limited experience comparing them. I want shots to look like I saw them. When I don't I have post-processing.
 
This is no surprise. Samsung has been a step ahead for the last few years.

Question. Do You think the average consumer really cares about minimal differences between the smart phone camera manufacturers? Doubt it. Maybe as a tech enthusiast or someone who is a photographer aficionado, I can understand they may be interested in the best possible smart phone camera. But the average smart phone consumer likely does not Pay attention to articles like this or remotely care which smart phone camera has better lighting.
 
All technicalities aside, this is a very subjective subject matter. IMO the S9 photo does look a little nicer, but both results are very close.
 
check this out

That was a decent video comparing the cameras. Most of it comes down to personal preference. They look pretty even to me except low light. The iPhone X struggles with low light. I still say the best camera in a smartphone goes to the Pixel 2. The computational stuff Google is doing is impressive.
 
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