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Scores don't matter. Competition does. Apple put 60 FPS 4k in its 2017 smartphone cameras. This next step caused Samsung to put it in the S9 and S9+ cameras. Now, Samsung has better apertures and Apple could increase their apertures this year. Either way, you should expect to get a strong camera in a flagship smartphone.
 
Was DXO rubbish when the X got a higher score than the Note 8? Just saying ...... o_O
Yes it was. Everything improves upon itself. It’s like saying “oh this dishwasher Is now more energy efficiency than the previous model” the later in time it’s released the better it will be. Technology advances with time.
 
I love how each new iteration of smart phone just happens to top the last by a point. Its almost like they want to stay relevant. Either way, props to Samsung for keeping the competition going.

The difference of a point becomes pretty subjective at some point. However, DXO has been around a long time evaluating professional Nikon and Canon cameras for many years (medium format a little but not as much)
 
They’re both sporting excellent cameras. Can’t go wrong with the latest gear from either company.
 
DxO found the Galaxy S9 Plus produces "excellent results" in bright light and sunny conditions, with vivid colors, good exposures, and a very wide dynamic range. The autofocus wasn't the very fastest DxO has ever tested, but they said it's more than fast enough not to be an issue for any user. ...
While the review crowned the Galaxy S9 Plus as an "excellent bright-light performer," DxO still experienced some "fairly minor issues" in those conditions. Some of its photos had "purple fringing on high-contrast edges" and "pretty noticeable" ringing halos, while others had "slight blue or pink color casts."​

I have done professional photography, and I would take that iPhone X shot any day over the Samsung shot. The Samsung shot has hyped up saturation, and the shadows are blown out - whereas the X has nice contrast and dynamic range. And those things like purple fringing are significant and indicative of a cheap lens.
 
The hand-bag clutching by Apple fans on here is hilarious.
The Samsung has the best camera and best display. Cope with it. Better still buy a Samsung.
I am still using the Nokia I bought for £19.00 10 years back. Costs me around £10 a year on a pay-as-you-go tariff.
Freedom from the Apple cult is right under your nose.
 
Both photos look like crap in the story. can't believe people claim how amazing smartphone cameras are. Every time I take a photo with my iPhone 8, I go and grab an SLR and re-take it. This is from yesterday:

iPhone 8 Plus:
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Lumix LX-10:
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Canon 5D M3:
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If I had NO other way to take a photo, I guess an iPhone works just like a polaroid camera 'works' but my god do cell phone sensors suck.

Every time I post my comment ANYWHERE I get called an uneducated swine for talking bad about how amazing camera-phones are. They suck. Plain and simple.

Now, if you look at iPhone photos ON an iPhone..they look great. That's because you're looking at these on a 4" screen. On my iMac 5K or MacBook Pro, it's night and day.
 
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Both photos look like crap in the story. can't believe people claim how amazing smartphone cameras are. Every time I take a photo with my iPhone 8, I go and grab an SLR and re-take it. This is from yesterday:

iPhone 8 Plus:
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bSsJoZW.jpeg


Lumix LX-10:
kkNohUI.jpeg


Canon 5D M3:
6fTwyZx.jpeg



If I had NO other way to take a photo, I guess an iPhone works just like a polaroid camera 'works' but my god do cell phone sensors suck.

Every time I post my comment ANYWHERE I get called an uneducated swine for talking bad about how amazing camera-phones are. They suck. Plain and simple.

Now, if you look at iPhone photos ON an iPhone..they look great. That's because you're looking at these on a 4" screen. On my iMac 5K or MacBook Pro, it's night and day.

Well of course they do compared to a dedicated camera. But for most people they work just fine so reviewing them makes sense. Plus it is a camera you always have on you. I don't carry my DSLR unless I am purposely going to take photos. But I always have my iPhone on me. And for what they are they are amazing.
 
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So, Samsung oversaturates the photos yet again? I know, that human eye sees image more like iPhone X, and less like vivid S9+, and I am all for natural and color accurate photos. I can oversaturate photos later in "Ps" or similar app as much as I like to, especially if I shoot RAW. I agree with those who said that this is "subjective rubbish".
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Or go buy an entry level DSLR for half the cost of either phone and take better photos than a phone could ever hope to take.
People want that premium phones have camera good as much as possible the current tech allows. Nothing wrong with that. No one is asking if they should buy DSLR or phone, they just want to have the best camera there is possible on the phone. This is especially to the person above who posted pictures taken with his iPhone 8 Plus vs the dedicated camera. Phones are not competing against DSLRs and they will probably never do. They are competing against each other.
 
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I always wonder if Apple stops refreshing their phones for a year, what Samsung would come up with since there is nothing they can copy from...o_O
 
I always wonder if Apple stops refreshing their phones for a year, what Samsung would come up with since there is nothing they can copy from...o_O
Well, that Infinity Display (edge to edge OLED) was there long before iPhone X...so. It isn't that Samsung cannot come up with something original... I am very passionate opponent of Android platform, but...give credit where it's due.
 
Guess I will put my iPhone X up on eBay as it doesn't seem to be able to compete with Samsung's latest. Thank God we have companies like DXO looking out for our best interest as smartphone users.

I feel so lost.
 
DXO is one data point, and the objective portion of their testing adds to the conversation. I give them much more weight than some random YouTube video, but would view them in context of many others-- including the subjective reviews of well trained individuals. I wish they'd keep "portrait mode" or synthetic bokeh out of the ratings though. May as well turn on your Instagram filters and bunny ears if you're going to allow photo-manipulation into the ratings.

Personally I'd like to see DXO focus on the objective metrics of the RAW images, or whatever stands for RAW in these things.

I also think it's time to stop putting smartphones in their own category. The fact that every new phone is better than the last hides the fact that they are still a good ways back from a dedicated camera. It would also keep the SLR and point-and-shoot folks appraised of how good smartphones really are...

In the end, the only story here is "smart phone cameras continue to improve". I'll be interested to see some detailed reviews of the photographic impact of that dual aperture (which is different than variable aperture as it keeps getting called).
(True that the red ceiling is brighter in the S9 image, but again whether that is good or bad is pretty opinion-based)
S9 picture still looks oversaturated to me. Nice tech behind the camera though.
The red ceiling is brighter because the sun has moved. The shadows have also moved in the grass and the colored posts are illuminated differently. This is the problem with taking pictures on sunny days as the sun goes down-- the scene changes faster than you realize and the colors and contrasts are hell on the white balance.
Still waiting for the controversial bit....
Controversial: giving rise to public disagreement.
Self fulfilling prophesy maybe, but we're 4 pages into comments and I'm seeing a reasonable amount of public disagreement...
 
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