Galaxy Z Fold7/Flip7

[tbayrgs]

But the outer screen is only exposed when using it in mini tablet... once you fold to phone form and place it in your pocket, there won't be any damage against it. Because in phone form... no other screen is at risk.


I take my 13" iPP with me everywhere as well... since I carry it in small backpack, but I don't pull it out often. I prefer using the Z Fold more out in public given the compact screen.

I get you, the idea of having a 10" tablet in my pocket is really cool. But the awkwardness of unfolding that out in public, I don't know.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the Huawei model has a singular, foldable screen that leaves one third of the it exposed when closed to serve as the front display in ‘phone’ mode. Then means instead of a traditional hard glass display on the ‘outside’ display when closed, its front display is part of the entire ‘inner’ display, and that includes the hinge on the front ride side when closed—a type of display that is far more delicate than the traditional glass used in traditional smartphone and the first displays on current 2 panel foldables.

So in the attached photo, the ‘front’ display is actually on the right facing away from us. To use it in mini-tablet mode, the panel with the camera is opened leaving display everywhere as the front display is folded around the back as you hold it. Regardless, when it’s closed, 1/3 of the flexible display and one of the 2 hinges covering in that same softer display is exposed to the elements on the outside. I wouldn’t but that in my pocket. What do you think that first crease would look like after a bit of ‘wear and tear’ being constantly exposed?

Imagine your Fold 6 opened all the way 360 degrees so that the inner display was now on the front and back. You’d be OK storing it like that in your pocket, bag, etc?

Go take a look at Huawei’s website. They don’t show it folded closed facing forward or in ‘mini-tablet’ mode in a single photo. Even the product video only shows it closing from behind. Wonder why? 🤔

Again, we all have our personal preference—I just wouldn’t sacrifice phone durability to have a 2 panel option.

 

[Ludatyk]

Regardless, when it’s closed, 1/3 of the flexible display and one of the 2 hinges covering in that same softer display is exposed to the elements on the outside. I wouldn’t but that in my pocket. What do you think that first crease would look like after a bit of ‘wear and tear’ being constantly exposed?

Yeah, you are talking about this being exposed.

Imagine your Fold 6 opened all the way 360 degrees so that the inner display was now on the front and back. You’d be OK storing it like that in your pocket, bag, etc?

You got a point… but I’d at least like to see how it goes, you know? Give it a chance to see how well it performs.

Again, we all have our personal preference—I just wouldn’t sacrifice phone durability to have a 2 panel option.

Completely understand. I just think durability concerns comes with owning a foldable… insurance would be included with the purchase of the phone.

 

[SteveJUAE]

Knowing Samsung's track record of just doing what Apple does if Apple were to release a special stylus(one that doesn't cause dents on the innner screen) for their foldable then it will probably come back.

You do realise we are taking about Folds and who is coping and using technology developed by who here lol

 

[Dave245]

You do realise we are taking about Folds and who is coping and using technology developed by who here lol

I’m surprised Apple is making a foldable to be honest. They are not mainstream devices, probably due to cost.

Samsung have had many years of a head start. But I guess it depends on what Apple will be doing.

 

[Ludatyk]

I’m surprised Apple is making a foldable to be honest. They are not mainstream devices, probably due to cost.

Is a Mac Pro a mainstream device? Or the Vision Pro? If there’s a market for a particular product…. Companies ought to pursue it.

Samsung have had many years of a head start. But I guess it depends on what Apple will be doing.

And Samsung has had years of development… it only took this year for Apple and everyone to take it seriously with the release of the Fold 7. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Fold 7 is the best selling foldable to date because of how good it is…

 

[Dave245]

Is a Mac Pro a mainstream device? Or the Vision Pro? If there’s a market for a particular product…. Companies ought to pursue it.


And Samsung has had years of development… it only took this year for Apple and everyone to take it seriously with the release of the Fold 7. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Fold 7 is the best selling foldable to date because of how good it is…

The Vision Pro might very well be, it’s too heavy and costs way too much. There is also no way that Apple have only just this year decided to make a foldable, Apple would have had it in the works for a couple of years at least.

Do i think there’s a market, yes i do, but they will need to convince mainstream people about foldables. I’m warming towards them, but I’m still unsure at the same time. Maybe it will take Apple to make them mainstream, but i don’t know if that will happen in the first generation. Time will tell, the beauty is, I’m willing to be wrong.

 

[Ludatyk]

Do i think there’s a market, yes i do, but they will need to convince mainstream people about foldables. I’m warming towards them, but I’m still unsure at the same time. Maybe it will take Apple to make them mainstream, but i don’t know if that will happen in the first generation. Time will tell, the beauty is, I’m willing to be wrong.

The market exist... that's the point. This idea that it has to be sold to EVERYONE... does not make any sense, some people are not willing to spend that kind of money on a phone PERIOD. And there are going to be compromises... the camera will not be as good compared to a slab phone.

But if users want a mini tablet that can be folded into their pocket, then that's the appeal. Doesn't have to be all that difficult.

 

[TPadden]

Agreed people are only just buying foldables so going higher price isn’t practical

"People, Market, Users"???

Everyone is talking about the US Foldable market as though it is the only one that exists. Samsung remains a dominant player in the global foldable market, having shipped over 18 million foldable units in 2024, holding a 62% global market share as of early 2025. Samsung has a strong presence in the Asian foldable market, with particularly high Fold sales in South Korea and significant growth in India. The Galaxy Z Fold and Flip series consistently break pre-order records in South Korea, with over 1 million units pre-ordered for the Galaxy Z Fold 7 and Z Flip 7 series alone.

Tom

 

[Cuesca]

You do realise we are taking about Folds and who is coping and using technology developed by who here lol

I am not saying they're just copying Apple with this foldable, but they seem to follow the trend that Apple sets like:

-no chargers - for profit
-no 3.5mm - for profit
-AR goggles - this one confuses me the most, like Apple's goggles wasn't a very good seller. No idea why they tried to compete with Apple here...
-High Yeild savings account attached to the ecosystem - I actually like this, the Sofi/Samsung one is way better to park your money in at 4.25% vs Apple's 3.65%
-rumors swirl that the S26 Ultra will return to aluminum

I can even argue that Samsung released the Edge just to beat Apple to the punch with the Air. Personally I think their executives just felt that if Apple can get away with something to maximize profit that maybe they can as well.

 

[The Game 161]

"People, Market, Users"???

Everyone is talking about the US Foldable market as though it is the only one that exists. Samsung remains a dominant player in the global foldable market, having shipped over 18 million foldable units in 2024, holding a 62% global market share as of early 2025. Samsung has a strong presence in the Asian foldable market, with particularly high Fold sales in South Korea and significant growth in India. The Galaxy Z Fold and Flip series consistently break pre-order records in South Korea, with over 1 million units pre-ordered for the Galaxy Z Fold 7 and Z Flip 7 series alone.

Tom

Foldables are still a tiny market of overall market share. Not just US but global sales have seen an improvement. Previous years sales were in decline.

Supply chain predicting a rise due to iPhone foldable coming to market should only help overall growing the market but time will tell

 

[jamezr]

I know this is probably pure speculation at this point. But would love see this for the Fold 8

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8: No Crease, 5000mAh Battery, and S Pen – It's Finally Happening - Geeky Gadgets https://share.google/wLJAKvAsOIqOWbck1

 

[The Game 161]

I know this is probably pure speculation at this point. But would love see this for the Fold 8

Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 8: No Crease, 5000mAh Battery, and S Pen – It's Finally Happening - Geeky Gadgets https://share.google/wLJAKvAsOIqOWbck1

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S pen returning I expect

I think they heard some of the criticism and I think they plan to remove it from s27 ultra so plan to have Z fold as the S pen device

Could be wrong though

 

[SteveJUAE]

I am not saying they're just copying Apple with this foldable, but they seem to follow the trend that Apple sets like:

-no chargers - for profit
-no 3.5mm - for profit
-AR goggles - this one confuses me the most, like Apple's goggles wasn't a very good seller. No idea why they tried to compete with Apple here...
-High Yeild savings account attached to the ecosystem - I actually like this, the Sofi/Samsung one is way better to park your money in at 4.25% vs Apple's 3.65%
-rumors swirl that the S26 Ultra will return to aluminum

I can even argue that Samsung released the Edge just to beat Apple to the punch with the Air. Personally I think their executives just felt that if Apple can get away with something to maximize profit that maybe they can as well.

It's Apple that is copying a whole phone format here and Samsung has set the trend LOL and I think the point has missed you When you post about a not existent phone that may or may not have a pen that Samsung may copy despite the fact they have had one for years, and now your off on a tangent

 

[SteveJUAE]

I’m surprised Apple is making a foldable to be honest. They are not mainstream devices, probably due to cost.

Samsung have had many years of a head start. But I guess it depends on what Apple will be doing.

Apple generally sell to a demographic with more disposable income and there is no reason that they cant sell 5-10m units at 2K minimum a pop, That is a massive turnover with many other advantages

 

[Cuesca]

It's Apple that is copying a whole phone format here and Samsung has set the trend LOL and I think the point has missed you When you post about a not existent phone that may or may not have a pen that Samsung may copy despite the fact they have had one for years, and now your off on a tangent

I think you missed my point completely…

 

[Dave245]

Apple generally sell to a demographic with more disposable income and there is no reason that they cant sell 5-10m units at 2K minimum a pop, That is a massive turnover with many other advantages

While this is true, they need to come out with something that is at least as good as Samsung’s Fold 7. The iPhone Fold can’t be a thick heavy brick that isn’t durable and has rubbish software. I’m sure Apple are aware of that, I’m very intrigued to see what Apple do in the foldable space, I’m also surprised that Apple decided to enter into it since they have showed no interest for a long time. Watch this space i guess.

 

[mjschabow]

While this is true, they need to come out with something that is at least as good as Samsung’s Fold 7. The iPhone Fold can’t be a thick heavy brick that isn’t durable and has rubbish software. I’m sure Apple are aware of that, I’m very intrigued to see what Apple do in the foldable space, I’m also surprised that Apple decided to enter into it since they have showed no interest for a long time. Watch this space i guess.

I would normally say that with the old Apple, but the new buggy Apple that promises new features as part of their marketing campaign and then completely scrap it, not 100% confident that they'll hit it out of the park with this one. I hope they do because that will just make all foldables better, but I don't trust the Apple brand like I used to.

 

[Cuesca]

I would normally say that with the old Apple, but the new buggy Apple that promises new features as part of their marketing campaign and then completely scrap it, not 100% confident that they'll hit it out of the park with this one. I hope they do because that will just make all foldables better, but I don't trust the Apple brand like I used to.

This is true, I can use my ZF7 all day and not run into a single bug. Then come home, take out my iPP and encounter rotation bugs, 1st party widgets or apps that doesn't work at all. It almost felt like Apple is just running on brand and nostalgia at this point. They don't make their own hardware so their software and integration are supposed to be perfect, but when I log onto my Mac there's a 50/50 chance that it will forget my Airplay 2 device.

 

[Ludatyk]

This is true, I can use my ZF7 all day and not run into a single bug. Then come home, take out my iPP and encounter rotation bugs, 1st party widgets or apps that doesn't work at all. It almost felt like Apple is just running on brand and nostalgia at this point. They don't make their own hardware so their software and integration are supposed to be perfect, but when I log onto my Mac there's a 50/50 chance that it will forget my Airplay 2 device.

Currently on iPadOS 26.2 beta 1 on my iPP... haven't encountered any rotation bugs or any bugs that you mention in all my experience under iPadOS 26 (not saying you are wrong, just I haven't dealt with it).

Latest bug I had was in beta program... couple weeks ago when Safari didn't apply the translucent effect when scrolling and that was fixed the week after, but I been enjoying iPadOS 26. Mac experience has been relatively smooth... occasionally AirPods Max doesn't automatically switch as quickly as I like.

And I'm still getting widget bugs with my ZF6... where they become strangely large or small, then there are times my S-Pen Pro disconnects randomly. So, it's not all roses in regards to Samsung. Heck, I just received an update to the Device Care widget where the text has changed to extra large... why Samsung?

 

[Cuesca]

Currently on iPadOS 26.2 beta 1 on my iPP... haven't encountered any rotation bugs or any bugs that you mention in all my experience under iPadOS 26 (not saying you are wrong, just I haven't dealt with it).

Latest bug I had was in beta program... couple weeks ago when Safari didn't apply the translucent effect when scrolling and that was fixed the week after, but I been enjoying iPadOS 26. Mac experience has been relatively smooth... occasionally AirPods Max doesn't automatically switch as quickly as I like.

And I'm still getting widget bugs with my ZF6... where they become strangely large or small, then there are times my S-Pen Pro disconnects randomly. So, it's not all roses in regards to Samsung. Heck, I just received an update to the Device Care widget where the text has changed to extra large... why Samsung?

Once I get home I'll record a video of it since I know how to replicate the bug. The rotation bugs happen if you use the 'dark glass' icon settings. Going from portrait to landscape and vice versal cause the glass to go from dark to light for a half a second. It's nothing major or device breaking but it's still annoying. The widget bug is I think the software just couldn't figure out a way to make what normally has colors colorless like the fitness tracking. What sucks is these bugs has been there since the developer beta all the way to the official. And of course the Safari bugs where if you went to a dark website it keeps that color scheme but only for the address bar when you switch over to a lighter website.

I submitted feedback but I guess they don't feel that it's a priority.

In regards to OneUI I can't help you with the SPEN but my Device Care widget's text seems to work fine. Maybe they're just putting more polish in their latest foldable. One thing I do notice with Samsung is their aspect ratio for the Folds tend to not be very cohesive.

Edit: https://streamable.com/fynxj9

Like I said its not a big deal but as someone with OCD that's really annoying. It seems they also fixed a few widget with the latest update. But this bug is still there.

 

[The Game 161]

While this is true, they need to come out with something that is at least as good as Samsung’s Fold 7. The iPhone Fold can’t be a thick heavy brick that isn’t durable and has rubbish software. I’m sure Apple are aware of that, I’m very intrigued to see what Apple do in the foldable space, I’m also surprised that Apple decided to enter into it since they have showed no interest for a long time. Watch this space i guess.

Based on rumours will be like two Airs together

4.5mm open and 9mm closed

Apple are said to be creating software for foldable screen which need to really.

 

[The Game 161]

Currently on iPadOS 26.2 beta 1 on my iPP... haven't encountered any rotation bugs or any bugs that you mention in all my experience under iPadOS 26 (not saying you are wrong, just I haven't dealt with it).

Latest bug I had was in beta program... couple weeks ago when Safari didn't apply the translucent effect when scrolling and that was fixed the week after, but I been enjoying iPadOS 26. Mac experience has been relatively smooth... occasionally AirPods Max doesn't automatically switch as quickly as I like.

And I'm still getting widget bugs with my ZF6... where they become strangely large or small, then there are times my S-Pen Pro disconnects randomly. So, it's not all roses in regards to Samsung. Heck, I just received an update to the Device Care widget where the text has changed to extra large... why Samsung?

26.1 has fixed issues I had. Seems smooth and no bugs. Hopefully stays that way

 

[TPadden]

They don't make their own hardware so their software and integration are supposed to be perfect...

According to Google: Selling screens to Apple is a significant revenue stream for Samsung, which prioritizes this profit over a direct competitive rivalry. Apple sources many OLED screens from Samsung Display for its iPhones, including the upcoming foldable phone, due to Samsung's lead in flexible screen technology and its ability to supply screens in high volume. 🤣

 

[Bkdodger]

Traffic around here allows for some video viewing lol

 

[aggie99]

Traffic around here allows for some video viewing lol

what mount you got there? Looking for a decent mount. None of the ones that clip to the vent seem to work well for me.