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GarageBand for iOS 7 to Become Free with In-App Purchases as Apple Reveals Full Set of New iLife and iWork Icons

This is not the original spirit of Appple Mr Cook.

There is a certain magic about Apple media even reveals. To let the cat out of the bag about this and the iMac Haswell processor update 3 months ago lessen the anticipation and reduce the punch of the event. This is not the original spirit of Appple Mr Cook.
 
TheGreenBastard said:
So, a big **** YOU to people who paid for the apps?

Typical.
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the only thing typical is your sense of entitlement.

i paid for the apps over a year ago and obtained much value from the transaction. how has that changed? apple now offers them as a free incentive to those buying new devices -- how does that pertain to me? retailers do promos like this all the time...

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yellowtruck said:
There is a certain magic about Apple media even reveals. To let the cat out of the bag about this and the iMac Haswell processor update 3 months ago lessen the anticipation and reduce the punch of the event. This is not the original spirit of Appple Mr Cook.
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the notion that cook, a senior veteran of the most successful tech company in the history of the planet, needs lessons from you, a random person on the interwebs going by the name "yellowtruck", is comical.
 
yellowtruck said:
There is a certain magic about Apple media even reveals. To let the cat out of the bag about this and the iMac Haswell processor update 3 months ago lessen the anticipation and reduce the punch of the event. This is not the original spirit of Appple Mr Cook.
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??? Tim Cook did not "let the cat out of the bag" He did not tell anyone what will be released at the event.

If you want to be surprised, why are you reading a website called MacRumors which has always provided speculation to upcoming apple products and releases?
 
"Good icons" "Bad icons". Both are relative and subjective.

While it's obvious YOU don't like the icons, and in YOUR opinion they aren't where they need to be...there are a lot of people who do like them and are enjoying the update. I'm sure 'real desginers' were involved in the design since they had to go through all the same hurdles all the GUI did. And to be honest...there are a lot of 'real designers' on marketing teams.

You taste isn't the standard...Thankfully.


Gudi said:
Folders also look extremely ugly in iOS 7 and are less functinal showing only nine apps at once. Despite individual preferences for more or less detailed icons, all people like good icons and all people hate bad icons. Most of these new icons are not only simple and clean but also very bad designs. So bad even that it is not quite clear if any real designer was actually involved in the design process? :confused:

Jony Ive Put Apple's Marketing Team in Charge of iOS 7 Icon Design
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Hmm...when i saw the colors i thought green for money/finacials, blue for a writing pen. Red just seemed to make sense to even out the scheme...

Gudi said:
Apple is adding meaningless (and sometimes confusing) colors to appeal more to Windows 8 users, because Microsoft suddenly is somehow on the forefront of UI development. That is if you believe the lunatic anti-skeuomorphism crowd, who pushed for this whole iOS 7 redesign, no one asked for. The insane use of color is supposed to look fresh and modern. And if you don't like it, than it means you are old and have problems with changes. Welcome to this brave new world! Its 1984 and we can't have nice things anymore.
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mdelvecchio said:
the style has changed. get over it.

did you get so bent out of shape when Adobe changed all of their photoshop or illustrator icons every year? nope. ask yourself why... theyre icons. they will always be changed and re-designed. always.
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Actually, I do hate Adobe's alphabet soup icons quite a lot. The reason it doesn't bother me as much is because I don't really care about Adobe. :)
 
I really really hope this iWork update still supports iOS 5 and later...
 
CarlosQG said:
I really really hope this iWork update still supports iOS 5 and later...
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very unlikely, the app will be updated to include APIs specific to iOS 7 so it is not going to work on iOS 5 devices.

You will be able to download the previous versions for those devices on iOS 5 for example.
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
very unlikely, the app will be updated to include APIs specific to iOS 7 so it is not going to work on iOS 5 devices.

You will be able to download the previous versions for those devices on iOS 5 for example.
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That's the most likely scenario as all the current iPads support iOS 7... I'm gonna have to get the iPad 5 then :(:
 
I'm not happy with the free iWorks.

Those apps are old (the last update was what, 4 years ago?). They were limited by the time they were released, but now they are WAY behind desktop productivity suits. Apple could have fixed iWorks - they could have invested in it, added all missing functionalities so iWorks would be more of a tool and less of a toy, and charged acordingly.

But, no. Looks like Apple went the opposite route - instead of fixing something broken, they are going to give the broken pieces for free.

A pity. Office for iOS can't come soon enough.
 
diegogaja said:
Hmm...when i saw the colors i thought green for money/finacials, blue for a writing pen. Red just seemed to make sense to even out the scheme...
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What kind of money is green? And what have numbers to do with financials? Not in the metric system. Don't try to create meaning where there is none. Yes, blue is the perfect colour for a writing pen! Except the old Pages icon was blue, the new one is orange. Dare to explain why? Don't even try!

It is obvious there is no longer any meaning behind colors. In iOS 6 green meant cellular communication, calling and text messaging was green. And blue meant internet services, mail and safari was blue. If you sent a free iMassage it was blue, a paid SMS and the "Send" button turned green.

Color is no longer a hint to guide you through the system. Because every icon is flat, every icon needs to have some stupid background color. It is exactly the same situation as with Windows 8 Live Tiles. Except that Windows looks more harmonious because the pictograms are always white.

To be more precisely:
If real designers have been involved in the creation of iOS 7, they do not deserve to be called designers.
 
Teste said:
I'm not happy with the free iWorks.

Those apps are old (the last update was what, 4 years ago?). They were limited by the time they were released, but now they are WAY behind desktop productivity suits. Apple could have fixed iWorks - they could have invested in it, added all missing functionalities so iWorks would be more of a tool and less of a toy, and charged acordingly.

But, no. Looks like Apple went the opposite route - instead of fixing something broken, they are going to give the broken pieces for free.

A pity. Office for iOS can't come soon enough.
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??? The apps weren't even released 4 years ago, but good try.

And apple is updating the apps that are going to be released in the next week. They didn't just make them free. Kind of makes me think you have never even used the apps that you are complaining about. Pages is one of the best word processors on the iPad.
 
Compile 'em all said:
It is official then: Paid apps are dead :(
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Not to worry! I just went to an Apple-hosted tech talk and they talked about this very thing. Paid apps are far from dead. Freeium is just another model. It will work for some and not for others.

iLife is an example of them wanting to move hardware not software so they've made it free to further enhance the appeal of iOS devices.

They spent a good amount of time on this and really showed that paid apps are as popular (if not more so) than ever.
 
Apple needs a database app in its office suite

Apple should take the Bento database product away from its feisty Filemaker subsidiary, rename it to something less arcane that can be easily remembered -- like Datas -- and offer it as the fourth arm of their iLife office suite along with Pages, Numbers, and Keynote. Apparently Filemaker is too darn incompetent to keep Bento up to date and/or come up with a version that is consistent with the iPhone and iMac versions. Bento has become indispensable to my online lifestyle because it enables so many functions that cannot be easily addressed by any other kind of app. True, Bento is not a relational database app, but it offers many field types and field lists to enable one to achieve all kinds of personal searchable databases. To have a database app that would sync through iCloud among all of my Apple devices would be absolutely wonderful.
 
Good Lord, I have deliberately avoided upgrading to iOS 7 for this very reason, now Apple are going to force these childish and simplistic icons onto my new Macbook Pro desktop for good measure, it seems wherever you go these days, flat is the "in" thing and no one is willing to break the trend. A real shame.

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xxBURT0Nxx said:
??? The apps weren't even released 4 years ago, but good try.
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I believe they are speaking of the Mac applications, if that is the case they would be referring to iWork '09, which, if my maths is correct, were released around four years ago
 
Notafanboyyet said:
Good Lord, I have deliberately avoided upgrading to iOS 7 for this very reason, now Apple are going to force these childish and simplistic icons onto my new Macbook Pro desktop for good measure, it seems wherever you go these days, flat is the "in" thing and no one is willing to break the trend. A real shame.
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Who said anything about these being forced onto your new macbook pro desktop? These icons are for the iOS version of pages, numbers, etc. This has nothing to do with OS X. Not to mention, nobody forces you to update. You are more than welcome to run old software for as long as your heart desires, apple is not going to bomb your house if you don't download the new versions.


I believe they are speaking of the Mac applications, if that is the case they would be referring to iWork '09, which, if my maths is correct, were released around four years ago
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Well, that's great and all, but this article/thread has nothing to do with the Mac applications, it is about the iOS versions of said apps, which if my math is correct, haven't even been around for 4 years.

Also, even if it were about the OS X versions, they were updated in March of 2013, a far cry from being updated 4 years ago.
 
ScottNWDW said:
Agreed. If they give Numbers a lot of attention I will ditch Microsoft altogether. The only Microsoft Office app I regularly use anymore for my personal stuff is Excel.

At work we use Windows PC's, but they are still on Windows XP with Office 2007. With that in mind, using the current iWork apps - even on an iPad - is an improvement.
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What needs to be added is simple copy and paste linked objects between numbers and pages and keynote as well as a simple "update all links in document" interface. This is what keeps me from not having switched over from Windows-based Office. Even Office for Mac has gimped this feature.

For example, in Windows, I can open an Excel file, copy the Chart I created there and the open up my PowerPoint file and paste the chart as a linked object. Then if I go in and change the data in the original Excel file, the chart changes as well. In iWork this is a tedious process even in the desktop version where a sort of manual iteration of this is possible, but you cannot update all links in a file at once, so have to click in do it with each individual linked object and running a presentation with 30-40 linked objects that update 10-20 times a day is a freaking nightmare in iWork AND Office for Mac.

Rant over, sorry - just would REALLY like to be able to use Keynote instead of PowerPoint professionally.
 
I like all the new icons, especially the new iWork icons. They always bugged me, as they felt like the Mac versions pasted on a blue background and gloss painted over them.

But that iMovie icon is going to bug me -- the star isn't formed from a regular pentagon... Why? o_O
 
wow,,,, I never expected Apple to release one of their own products they made money on, as free...

Whats the catch ?
 
Tech198 said:
wow,,,, I never expected Apple to release one of their own products they made money on, as free...

Whats the catch ?
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No catch. Software sells hardware. Same reason they released iOS updates for free, and there's a chance 10.9 is free as well.
 
milo said:
No catch. Software sells hardware. Same reason they released iOS updates for free, and there's a chance 10.9 is free as well.
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Chances are 10.9 will NOT be free!! What are you basing your chance it will be free on??

The last OS X releases have been cheap, coming in at $29, but they have not been free. There has been no indication that Mavericks is suddenly going to be free either. Expect to pay $29.
 
jlc1978 said:
Your current apps won't magically stop working so you have lost nothing. For all we know these could be new downloads so you get the new and can keep the old. I paid for them as well, and got plenty of use for my money. Apple owes those who bought them nothing.
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ok then sir
 
xxBURT0Nxx said:
Chances are 10.9 will NOT be free! What are you basing your chance it will be free on?
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Differences from previous osx releases: no upgrade price announced yet, no announcement of free updates for people buying macs after a certain date, etc. Of course it could be $19 again, but with other apple software moving to free I wouldn't rule that possibility out. Tomorrow we should find out either way.
 
milo said:
Differences from previous osx releases: no upgrade price announced yet, no announcement of free updates for people buying macs after a certain date, etc. Of course it could be $19 again, but with other apple software moving to free I wouldn't rule that possibility out. Tomorrow we should find out either way.
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they have never announced the price, nor the up to date program, before they announced the release date. We will get the price, as well as details on the up to date program tomorrow at the keynote.

Also, it's $29, not $19

Basically you have evidence that it will be free, just your idea that it will be free.
 
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