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They're really trolling a smart watch? 😂
Yes, they are.

They sell their dive watch for well over $1000 and even up to a little over $2000. Depends on the materials and the air integration feature that uses a wireless transmitter to monitor gas levels in your cylinder. Also it's mixed gas ready.

The Apple Watch Ultra is initially targeting recreational divers which is the biggest segment of scuba diving.

This new Apple product has shocked the dive manufacturers with the amount of features and polished OS. All the dedicated dive watches I've used over the last 18 years are bulky as hell, and use buttons to progress through a clunky software design. Apple has uprooted the old style of dive watch with the one Action button, and the use of the crown dial to navigate screens while underwater.

And yes, I do own a Garmin watch. I own the S62 Golf watch and it might get about 15 hours of battery life when using GPS during golf rounds. The standby is weeks long, but that's at the expense of a very dim screen that you can barely read unless you tap the screen to brighten. Also, there is no 'raise to wake' feature so you have to physically tap to see what time it is.

Here's a picture of my current dedicated dive watches next to my current Apple Watch. The 45mm or whatever.
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I switched from a series 5 AW to a Garmin Epix 2 and not having to even think about charging the watch for 2 weeks is a big deal. I wear it 24/7, only removing it occasionally to change the band. And because of this, I get good sleep metric, HRV data, training readiness, etc. It’s interesting how I used to get nervous when my Watch hit 20% battery knowing I had hours left before needing to charge. But with the Epix 2, 20% is still days of battery life remaining. There are other models that offer twice the battery life, but then you have to be ok with using a low-res transflective LCD screen.
Thanks; I actually cracked the screen on my s3 a few weeks ago so figured it was time to finally upgrade. I’m not into my fitness metrics enough to want a Garmin (or an ultra), so I’ve gone with an s8.

Hopefully it’ll last as long as the s3 has.
 
Apple's response:

"We measure unit sales in millions, not thousands".
Exactly.

While a solid response from Garmin (approved), we've seen similar types responses from other category leaders when Apple shows up at their doorstep. And buried way down deep in their clever retorts, certainly lives at least a teeny bit of concern - understandably so. Apple brings a MASSIVE user base to any category. And while it hasn't always played out this way, it's not at all uncommon that Apple [at some point] supplants the category leader.

Garmin is a solid company with great product and brand loyalty. While I don't think they're actively scared of Apple stepping into their lane, they better not get too complacent. 😉

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
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Apple's response:

"We measure unit sales in millions, not thousands".
Don't worry that is going to be in version 2 genius innovator including the solar panel in new watch bands which connect magnetically to watch body or slide in the new watchband that has the new apple connector to charge iwatch through the micro wireless ports from watchband.
 
One factor Garmin is known for is customer service. I had a cable issue when my Fenix was two years old and out of warranty. They said that they would ship me a refurbished unit for free. They didn't have any at the time so we waited a few weeks and they still didn't have any so they sent me a new one. With a cable and another wrist band. I have had good experiences with Apple Customer Service but have never had a new replacement well out of warranty.
 
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Siri
Apple Pay is better
ECG
Audible
Noise
SpO2 is more accurate
Weather, because 3rd parties, is better.
App store is way better.

I can probably go on. I can also do it on the other side too.
Nobody cares about Siri or Apple Pay. We’re talking about a device for athletes to track their activities. If you are actually saying people would buy an AW over a Garmin because it has Siri then there’s nothing else to discuss lmao
 
I just rode the HH100 2 weeks ago. Epic 2 on my left wrist and AW on my right (both fully charged). When I crossed the finish line, the AW battery was dead and I had 12 days of charge left on the Epix.

I also have a Descent Mk2i for diving. While the Ultra is neat, I cannot see myself using it to dive until it has air integration and an option to use it for logging dives that is not subscription based. I am a recreational diver too.
 
Yeah, I was only half joking 😉

Garmin on the left, Coros on the right. The only thing cooler would be also carrying a selfie-stick to do the video. I'm not sure if someone else is shooting or if he has a drone shooting based on his phone location.

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Exactly.

While a solid response (approved), we've seen similar types responses from other category leaders when Apple shows up at their doorstep. And buried way down deep in their clever retorts, certainly lives at least a teeny bit of concern - understandably so. Apple brings a MASSIVE user base to any category. And while it hasn't always played out this way, it's not at all uncommon that Apple [at some point] supplants the category leader.

Garmin is a solid company with great product and brand loyalty. While I don't think they're actively scared of Apple stepping into their lane, they better not get too complacent. 😉

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I think Garmin have realised that hence the touch screen on the Fenix 7 for example. I don’t think there’ll be that much crossover in customer base yet
 
I’m looking at changing out a Garmin golf watch for an Apple Watch.., it lasts 18 holes, but not much more with gps on. Hopefully there are some decent applications for golf on @Watch.

If I were a better golfer it wouldn’t be an extreme sport and ultra wouldn’t be necessary! :rolleyes:
 
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