It does seem like Garmin have rattled the fanboys if not Apple themselves 😂
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Garmin Reacts to Apple Watch Ultra: 'We Measure Battery Life in Months. Not Hours.'
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True but this is really comparing apples and rocks from cave people. The two watches are like sky and land. Try sending a message through satellite or call some one on that watch. Its like comparing a tv to a radio. Cmon Garmin you should know better don't compare a bicycle to a car.
Actually, the competence of the Ultra's cell/sat connection would seem to be of great value for most back country usages.
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The apple watches although marketed that way, targets a much larger audience lol
Will the Apple Watch Ultra make Garmin the next Nokia?
Will the Apple Watch Ultra make Garmin the next Nokia?
Apple is great at software, Garmin, like Nokia, is not.
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Garmin has reacted to Apple's new rugged Apple Watch Ultra, saying in a tweet following the iPhone 14 and Apple Watch event that it measures battery life in "months" and "not hours," promoting its latest Enduro 2 watch for athletes.
While the Apple Watch Ultra has the longest battery life of any Apple Watch to date, with Apple promising up to 36 hours of normal use and up to 60 hours with watchOS 9's new Low Power Mode setting and other optimizations, the Enduro 2 can last significantly longer depending on usage scenarios.
Despite Garmin's claim that it measures battery life in months, the company actually advertises the Enduro 2 as having "up to 150 hours of battery life in GPS mode with solar charging" and "up to 34 days of battery life in smartwatch mode." The Enduro 2 has a 1.4-inch solar-powered display, compared to the nearly 2-inch display on the Apple Watch Ultra that can reach a peak brightness of 2,000 nits, the brightest ever in an Apple Watch.
The Apple Watch Ultra also has a wide range of advanced sensors, including the ability to take an ECG, measure blood oxygen level, alerts for high and low heart rates, and a new body temperature sensor focusing on women's health.
The Apple Watch Ultra is offered in a 49mm case and costs $799, while the Enduro 2 costs $1,099. The Apple Watch Ultra was made available for pre-order earlier this week and will begin shipping on Friday, September 23.
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Garmin should realize that this kind of marketing jive makes their potential customers suspicious that they are circling the drain. It amounts to bull-dada. It shows me that they are fearful of something, whatever it is.
Personally I consider having a cellular radio to be far more important than the minor inconvenience of needing to charge an Ultra every other day or so. But YMMV of course.
Of course they’re afraid. Apple is coming for their market segment (at least in part.) Any company that makes a product targeted by Apple should be afraid. Apple is one of the biggest companies in the world.
At first I didn't see the mic and I was about to ask you why you posted a picture of Tim doing a Nazi salute 😮
I don't care much about Garmin watches - I had a big red one for triathlons 10 years ago - I forget where it is now. It had all the problems of fitness gear - weird cords and dongles and software that was a big ordeal. After a short time I switched over to using my iPhone on my road bike and when Apple Watch came out, it was like - forget all these Ant+ things - it's stupid. I mean - I missed out on installing fancy power meters in my road bike maybe, but I'm actually glad I avoided all that poor human interface electronics. Apple is way better overall for me.
Maybe these days Garmin has decent bluetooth as well as Ant+, and they have a legacy of smart fitness tracking stuff. I was able to export my data years ago, and yah Garmin is solid, and hardcore Ironman guys might personally swear by Garmin electronics - but it just depends how extreme you are I suppose. The Apple Watch does it all pretty well. Can you now do a 18 hour Ironman with Apple Watch Ultra? Yes - it looks like you can! So that's a milestone today from Apple.
The writing is on the wall - I don't expect that Garmin would be able to compete with Apple now. All of Garmin's functionality is now a side feature of the Apple Watch it seems to me.
Yah - but showing it like this just makes it worse right? It fans the flames. It's like Steve Balmer trying to tell the public that the iPod is going down and the Zune is taking over - he actually tried that line of bull-dada.
Except the "standard" isn't the real Apple Watch anymore. The next-gen watch is the Ultra. The "standard" is a bargain device, meant to codify stockholders.
Back in Jobs' time, the Ultra would have just been called Apple Watch (insert number). But under Tim, the marketing men have taken a more prominent roll. And considering people are buying into it, it looks like it's working.
I don’t know about you but I tend not to need an ECG on a daily basis and when I do need one I’d rather it was administered by a health professional. I think you’re clutching at straws
And we’ve passed 270 posts discussing another manufacturers watch 😂
Count how many posts have referred to Samsung smartphones over the years and get back to me.
Not everyone needs dual GPS for running the Boston Marathon through the skyscrapers. But that was a differentiator for the "DC Rainmaker" type guys along with "battery life" (who do excellent reviews of top quality esoteric fitness produce). Apple Watch Ultra cannot be dismissed. Recreational Scuba divers gonna buy a SUUNTO now? No Way. It's Apple Ultra for sure that makes the sale to recreational scuba divers now.
The Ultra Watch really is good. Let's see what DC Rainmaker says, is what I am thinking.
So it’s not just Garmin advertising then.
I’ve just had a quick look and there’s more posts on here than any of the threads actually discussing the Ultra
Maybe unsurprisingly, Garmin is overstating their case. I've been wearing a Fenix 6 Pro for the last year, and a FR935 for 2 years before that. I play golf 3 days a week, go to the gym 2-3x a week and mix in a couple outdoor walks/runs. Wearing the Fenix 24/7, I have to recharge it at least once a week, sometimes every 5 days. Definitely better battery life than the Apple Watch, but not "months". Not even "weekS" (plural).
I can get two weeks out of it if I just wear it as a watch and don't do any workouts that require GPS, and I could maybe get a month if I put it in "Expedition Mode", but that disables the screen, most of the sensors, and only takes a GPS reading once an hour. At that point you can barely even call it a "smart watch".
I have my feet in both camps. Garmin doesn't make bad products by any means, and there are certain use cases in which Apple doesn't match up - but Apple offers other features that Garmin doesn't come close to. Battery life isn't one of them, but Garmin's isn't as good in real-life use as they're crowing about.
When my AW8 arrives next week, I'll probably keep the Fenix as my golf watch and use the AW for everything else. Garmin's native golf app is as good as any AW golf app (and better than many), doesn't cost me anything extra, and sends all my rounds to the Garmin Golf app for tracking and analysis. And I don't have any worries about the battery lasting if the course is crowded and I get stuck in a 5-hour round of golf.
I can get two weeks out of it if I just wear it as a watch and don't do any workouts that require GPS, and I could maybe get a month if I put it in "Expedition Mode", but that disables the screen, most of the sensors, and only takes a GPS reading once an hour. At that point you can barely even call it a "smart watch".
I have my feet in both camps. Garmin doesn't make bad products by any means, and there are certain use cases in which Apple doesn't match up - but Apple offers other features that Garmin doesn't come close to. Battery life isn't one of them, but Garmin's isn't as good in real-life use as they're crowing about.
When my AW8 arrives next week, I'll probably keep the Fenix as my golf watch and use the AW for everything else. Garmin's native golf app is as good as any AW golf app (and better than many), doesn't cost me anything extra, and sends all my rounds to the Garmin Golf app for tracking and analysis. And I don't have any worries about the battery lasting if the course is crowded and I get stuck in a 5-hour round of golf.
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