S.B.G
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Thats true. Only 1 phone, a few versions of it and one carrier and the iPhone isn't far behind Android with tons of devices, carriers and versions.
Regardless of the numbers, iPhone/iOS is a success.
Gartner: Android Tops iOS in 3Q 2010 Global Smartphone Market Share
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Thats true. Only 1 phone, a few versions of it and one carrier and the iPhone isn't far behind Android with tons of devices, carriers and versions.
Regardless of the numbers, iPhone/iOS is a success.
lsvtecjohn3
macrumors 6502a
Android outsold the iPhone by 7 million worldwide, even if the iPhone was on all major carriers in the US it still would have been outsold. Let's keep in mind that the iPhone was on backorder for the whole quarter, so Apple sold every phone they made.
To be fair, there are lots of Android feature phones. I'm not sure if they are counting ipods as iOS. Granted they aren't phones, but I imagine the goal for developers is to get your apps to the largest audience. I'm willing to bet there are still more apps sold in the App Store than the Android Marketplace.
res1233
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Depends on the country. I believe T-Mobile in Germany just recently lost exclusivity, and the US is a big market.
OllyW said:
Depends on the country. I believe T-Mobile in Germany just recently lost exclusivity, and the US is a big market.
Not sure about developers but there's definitly more customers.
Android outsold iOS in one quarter and there's already more Android customers than iOS? I think your math may be flawed.
S.B.G
Moderator emeritus
You're right. I also like how Apple curates the App store and iOS, I know many people don't and JB, but I do like it. I like the stability that Apple provides and the rigid rules for developers to ensure a good, smooth and quality product that I don't have to worry about crashing or otherwise goofing up.
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not surprising seeing as carriers are heavily pushing android handsets and all the high profile bugs on the iphone 4
not surprising seeing as carriers are heavily pushing android handsets and all the high profile bugs on the iphone 4
S.B.G
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Yeah I forgot about the backorder ordeal. But that's awesome that they sold every phone they had, providing that they didn't purposefully limit production. I doubt the Android phones have done that.
Full of Win
macrumors 68030
Given the closed garden approach and multiple design failures of Apple Consumer Electronics w/ the iPhone 4, I'm not surprised.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the day Apple held their sham news conference on the iPhone antenna failure will be seen as the day they lost the mobile OS war.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the day Apple held their sham news conference on the iPhone antenna failure will be seen as the day they lost the mobile OS war.
not really
lately i've been seeing ads for a $25 a month Android phone from T-Mo. it's a cheapo phone with a few apps like youtube and facebook. not even sure what else it can take. you're probably not going to get any updates for it either.
a lot of people are perfectly happy with cheap. most chicks i see in starbucks only use facebook on their iphones
res1233
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Yet, in spite of that fact, it would seem fairly likely that apple is selling far more hardware than any other vendor... Strange...
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Yet, in spite of that fact, it would seem fairly likely that apple is selling far more hardware than any other vendor... Strange...
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really? You sure? What about nokia? These are global figures not US figures.
really? You sure? What about nokia? These are global figures not US figures.
That doesn't really make "sense". Based on your logic - it means that people like choices and are more apt to buy/get an android phone because there are options.
If the sample size is 100 people - all 100 could buy an iPhone or they could but any android phone. A larger percentage of people are choosing to NOT buy an iPhone. # of choices doesn't really play into it except to say there are more options.
Now - if you say that Apple only manufactured 100 phones in total to sell, and Android has 200 phones to sell and there are 300 people - then you'd have a point.
Now - all that being said - for those that somehow feel threatened or the need to knock android or praise apple to feel better - what's the point, really?
If Apple was on top of this stat, you'd all be patting each other on the back AND stating that Apple is able to do this with only one phone while Android has several. All silly nonsense.
Enjoy the phone you have and respect the fact that other people enjoy theirs - no matter what phone they have.
mabaker
macrumors 65816
Im using a symbian-based device myself. Its as much capable as Android or iOS minus the apps galore. If you are corporate user you get all the corporate features like Lotus Notes, Exchange, Communicator for free as well in the package. Its rather nice but its just a phone, nothing more.
It was quite expected, given that Android phones are now < $10. Google is trying to flood market with android devices to surge their total numbers, so as to tap on mobile advertising.
I believe apple needs to do-
1. Keep enhancing quality of iPhone.
2. Lower the prices so as to capture lower income groups as otherwise they will have no option than android, this includes lower income techies too. Basically they should adopt same approach as they did with Apple TV ( to cheap and quality product to beat, and iPad less expensive for the screen-size).
I believe apple needs to do-
1. Keep enhancing quality of iPhone.
2. Lower the prices so as to capture lower income groups as otherwise they will have no option than android, this includes lower income techies too. Basically they should adopt same approach as they did with Apple TV ( to cheap and quality product to beat, and iPad less expensive for the screen-size).
Yea I'm typing on one right now. And what? I still don't like the look and how android functions. If it wasn't for thr fact that ATT doesn't work at my work place I would never have left iphone. The moment verizon or tmobile gets the iphone this "desire" is going on ebay.....
For £60 a month.
Two things...
* Apple is a company interested in making money. We don't know that they would have made the money that they have had they not struck the deal they did with AT&T.
* Android is what it is because of the iPhone. Remember the original version was much different than it is now...more like a blackberry or treo. Apple's disruption of the market forced Verizon to change their ways and then use the Android OS.
All in all there is an old saying that you can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their back and to some extent that applies to Apple only so far as having to be exclusive to AT&T in the US. No one but AT&T would let them into the market under Apple's terms which are terms that have now disrupted the market for the better. Apple got a juicy contract out of it and capitalized.
For what it's worth though in my opinion I think Android taking over the market like it has would have happened regardless and part of me could see it becoming the foundation for future feature phones. Many of the signs are there.
And your post made me laugh (good post though). At least 10? It seems like 10 are released each month!
There are currently 82 documented smartphones running Android. This does not include tablets or other devices.
82! That's crazy, especially when compared with the 4 iOS devices that are smartphones.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
nostradukemas
macrumors newbie
Over the summer, the EVO was sold out for quite a while. Sprint stop selling them online for a while. I had to wait a few weeks to get one, and that was with having a friend who worked at Sprint telling me when they were coming in.