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If a Motorola Android phone is sold an a HTC Android phone is sold that makes two Android phones sold. How is that hard to understand. This article is about smartphone operating systems market share.
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Gartner: Android Tops iOS in 3Q 2010 Global Smartphone Market Share
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What are you talking about? 1+1 = 2
If a Motorola Android phone is sold an a HTC Android phone is sold that makes two Android phones sold. How is that hard to understand. This article is about smartphone operating systems market share.
In the USA, the iPhone is only available on ATT, and ATT has about a 25% market share. ATT activates roughly 5-6 M iPhones per quarter. So conservatively, if the iPhone were available for 100% of USA providers, Apple could sell another 10 million. Perhaps 3M or more of those would come out of the Android totals. So Apple would easily be a strong #2, pushing hard on Symbian.
Q4 is going to be the same..
Remember iPhone network:
AT&T
Android Options: (market share)
AT&T (25.2%)
Verizon (31.1%)
Sprint (12%)
Tmobile (12%)
So with only a network marketshare of only 25.2% apple has a 16.7% SP marketshare or 0.63% SP marketshare per 1% network marketshare ratio
Android has 25.5% SP marketshare with a network marketshare of 80.30% or 0.31% sp to network marketshare ratio
So apple smart phone market share is actually more than double that of android considering that its only available to 31% of the users that android is available to.
Assuming that iphone was on the same 4 main carriers we would expect the fallowing:
50.59% SP marketshare or 41,950 units in Q3 2010
Remember iPhone network:
AT&T
Android Options: (market share)
AT&T (25.2%)
Verizon (31.1%)
Sprint (12%)
Tmobile (12%)
So with only a network marketshare of only 25.2% apple has a 16.7% SP marketshare or 0.63% SP marketshare per 1% network marketshare ratio
Android has 25.5% SP marketshare with a network marketshare of 80.30% or 0.31% sp to network marketshare ratio
So apple smart phone market share is actually more than double that of android considering that its only available to 31% of the users that android is available to.
Assuming that iphone was on the same 4 main carriers we would expect the fallowing:
50.59% SP marketshare or 41,950 units in Q3 2010
They do offer it on all major carriers around the world except for the CDMA ones. You need to get away from the mindset that your country is the center of the universe. It is not. Nobody, outside of Verizon employees and subscribers gives a rats arse about Verizon. I don't care. Verizon does not affect me as I cannot roam on their network when I visit the US with my iPhone. The same thing goes for Sprint. Nobody outside of the US cares about Sprint.
I don't think so. Last quarter Apple sold 5 or six million iPhones in the US. Android sold 9 million phones in the US. Worldwide Android out sold the iPhone by 9 million were the iPhone is multiple carriers. Android is outselling the iPhone around the world too.
I do think if the iPhone was on all the major carriers in the US they would close the distance but Android would still outsell the iPhone.
Uh, you say you agree with ChazUK then go and say the complete opposite ?
This is a smartphone OS marketshare graph. It's for smartphones. Not iPods, not tablets, not vacuum cleaners.
ChazUK, what you seem to be missing is how important intent is to how it will be used. If you intend on getting a specific smartphone, you are likely to use it as a smartphone and take full advantage of its features and apps but the person that gets the other phone in a bogo was not looking for a specific phone upgrade and might not give a damn about smartphones so they are likely to just use it as a dumb phone like they did with their previous phone.
Uh ? You're assuming that people don't move to AT&T because of the iPhone and that offering the iPhone on every carrier wouldn't result in AT&T selling less iPhones.
Big assumptions right there.
Are you aware that people can actually switch networks and they do? More to the point, Gartner data shows smartphone shares Worldwide and outside USA Apple uses multiple wireless carriers.
Thanks for engaging-- this is fun.
But keep in mind Apple sold 5-6 million exclsusively through ATT. Verizon is slightly bigger, and heavily promotes Android in its struggle to keep ATT from gaining market share. I have to believe most of those 9 million are from Verizon. Do you not think Apple could convert 3M Android units to iPhones if a. Verizon were fully committed and b. reduced investment in promoting Android as an iPhone killer? This is in addition to converting RIM, Symbian, etc.Just so you know, I'm a solid Verizon customer, and I will quickly switch my BBerry to the iPhone if/when it becomes available. And I know many others who will as well...
Yep, big assumptions are part of the game.
But you make a good point. Can you suggest your own model/estimates?I think Apple knows the next way to counter Android's popularity is to get that darn phone on other networks in the US. I think they probably resent the exclusive contract now.
I'd love an iPhone on Sprint's unlimited everything plan for $70. Or on Verizon's network that you know, works in my area.
You, me, and a ton of other people!
I'd love an iPhone on Sprint's unlimited everything plan for $70. Or on Verizon's network that you know, works in my area.
You, me, and a ton of other people!
I am really NOT surprised, as there are multiple manufacturers making phones with android OS vs 1 for IOS. I just hope that apple can keep developers happy and quality apps coming to IOS. One advantage that i do see out of this for both platform users is that many apps will be available for both platforms and perhaps they can interact between each other such as social networking/chat and for things like that more is better.
Thanks for engaging-- this is fun.
Just so you know, I'm a solid Verizon customer, and I will quickly switch my BBerry to the iPhone if/when it becomes available. And I know many others who will as well...
In the US there were 9 million Android phones sold last quarter Apple sold 5-6. Worldwide Android sold 20 million, Apple sold 13-14. I don't know how many Android phones were sold per carrier in the US I would guess half of them were sold on Verizon and the other half were ATT, Sprint and T Mobile but the fact is Android is outselling the iPhone around the world not just in the US.
I think Apple knows the next way to counter Android's popularity is to get that darn phone on other networks in the US. I think they probably resent the exclusive contract now.
Except for the fact that everywhere else, this hasn't countered Android at all.
The US is the last country to have an exclusivity agreement, now that Germany has fallen.
I was one of the people who helped the Android numbers go up, and the Samsung number, too. Got tired of AT&T. Wanted a lighter phone. Didn't like Apple's arrogant response to the iPhone 4 antenna design problem (or want to worry about an easily cracked phone). Didn't really appreciate how my iPhone 2G got essentially bricked by the 3.x iOS update, either. It's great that Google, in contrast, seems to be focusing on improving performance in addition to adding features with their updates; their next OS update should actually increase my phone's performance. Hopefully they'll continue that trend.
Android is definitely nowhere near as polished as iOS, though, interface-wise. When the Verizon iPhone comes out, it's possible I'll switch back, depending on how I like the new iPhone hardware. It's nice to have a choice.
Android is definitely nowhere near as polished as iOS, though, interface-wise. When the Verizon iPhone comes out, it's possible I'll switch back, depending on how I like the new iPhone hardware. It's nice to have a choice.
Android Won My Heart
I have had a mobile phone since the 1989 back when they where bricks.
I have had several phones and small devices, also have been a loyal RIM BB...... until the iPhone came out. I took a really good look at it. My kids have it, my sister and several friends have it.
I do not do what others do just because they do it. I looked at the Android OS and then looked at the phones that have it installed. For me the Android was the best choice.
I am in love with the HTC Desire Android. It is the best device I have ever owned.
I have had a mobile phone since the 1989 back when they where bricks.
I have had several phones and small devices, also have been a loyal RIM BB...... until the iPhone came out. I took a really good look at it. My kids have it, my sister and several friends have it.
I do not do what others do just because they do it. I looked at the Android OS and then looked at the phones that have it installed. For me the Android was the best choice.
I am in love with the HTC Desire Android. It is the best device I have ever owned.
The thing is although the iPhone=BMW analogy is smart it doesn't apply well to this concept of apple premium. The magnitudes of money are different for a BMW versus an Impala there not the same price we are talking thousands of $ difference were an iPhone with a set capacity and an android for the most part with smaller space capacity sell for the same price. The minute you said 699 MacBook I thought that's cheap in to ways in wow that's afordable and wow that computer doesn't sound like it's a great quality; Now that's simply not true because apple would never make an un reliable product but I think they like keeping the products premium...even if they cost the same to make as the competitor product.
Why the fanboy attitudes?
Why do people feel that they need to defend Apple? They've certainly been successful with the iPhone, right? Android offers a choice, and this isn't really a war (at least not at the user level).
I use a T-Mobile G2, and I love it. I appreciate the fact that I can choose my own email app and provider, and my own media player, browser, chat app, etc etc. I can change just about everything that would matter to most users, and it is easy and seamless to do so. I treat my G2 like I treat my Macbook. Unfortunately (for me), I see the iPhone as being too much like an iPod. Not enough choice. But if I wanted it to be as simple as possible, I see the value in an iPhone.
Why do people feel that they need to defend Apple? They've certainly been successful with the iPhone, right? Android offers a choice, and this isn't really a war (at least not at the user level).
I use a T-Mobile G2, and I love it. I appreciate the fact that I can choose my own email app and provider, and my own media player, browser, chat app, etc etc. I can change just about everything that would matter to most users, and it is easy and seamless to do so. I treat my G2 like I treat my Macbook. Unfortunately (for me), I see the iPhone as being too much like an iPod. Not enough choice. But if I wanted it to be as simple as possible, I see the value in an iPhone.
Definitely. Android is taking over my office -- mostly middle-aged men with techie backgrounds. The iPhone is being replaced in this market.
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Does apple stand to benefit to selling a different phone say with a keyboard?
This was expected though my fanboy friend thought differently.
Does apple stand to benefit to selling a different phone say with a keyboard?
This was expected though my fanboy friend thought differently.
Umm you are comparing world wide market share to US market share. Your entire argument is a fail there.