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Gartner: Android Tops iOS in 3Q 2010 Global Smartphone Market Share

apple1990 said:
So apple isn't being attacked, knight?
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That was a statement of fact, not an attack. You are seeing Apple as more than a company if you see any of this as an attack and go on the defensive. You're taking things quite personally in that case.

Let. It. Go.

iRobertM said:
Funny how "Fanboy" is how the universal word for someone who does not agree with you.
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No, hater is also a word used for someone who does not agree with you. Depends on if the argument is pro or con.
 
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samcraig said:
Point being?

I am still amused how some people in this thread try to twist messaging around to serve their own purpose because the facts that are presented don't suit them. But when the situation is reversed, they call it gospel.

Funny.
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How exactly? I was pointing out how this is a completely different situation to what happened to Apple in the 80/90s. Apple dwarf Google as a company now and won't let themselves be overrun again.
 
SandboxGeneral said:
Yeah I forgot about the backorder ordeal. But that's awesome that they sold every phone they had, providing that they didn't purposefully limit production. I doubt the Android phones have done that.
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nearly every post of yours is just biased and utter nonsense.

The ip4 was maybe out of stock in the US but over here in the UK it was freely available after 2 or 3 weeks of launch.


keep drinking...
 
SandboxGeneral said:
Fanboy? No, not me. I am not all Apple all the time. That was just a story of my experience with my 3GS. I've not bumped into anyone yet who has negatively criticized the iPhone. If someone had, I would mention it.

I'm not at all impressed by the explosion of Android. I say that because I like many folks expected that to happen. They have more carriers and device makers. That alone will sell way more than the iPhone on one carrier and a few models.

I personally don't have anything against Android at all. I'm glad it's out there to help drive innovation and give consumers a choice.
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Negatively criticise the iphone?

I could line you up 50 from within 200 yards of where I am.

Some criticism would be justified some not.


Google have done a tremendous job with Android because no matter how many devices it was on, if the software sucked no one would buy it.

the value proposition on Android (compared to iOS) is just too good to be ignored, and HTC or Samsung hardware is better than Apple as well.

future is green.....
 
Funny how the Apple enthusiasts totally undervalue the power of search, and it's revenue potential.

Yes, Apple makes money from their hardware sales, but do you know whose making the dough every time someone searches on their smartphone? Google. Every time someone searches, kaching! Multiply that to all carriers in the U.S. Now scale it worldwide. Double kaching!

Don't underestimate the revenue potential of search. Hardware is bought once, search lives on with the smartphone for years to come.

Why did Uncle Steve go off in the earnings report? I mean, why would he be so antagonistic to Google? Apple sold over 19 million iPhones, so whats with the anger? Here's why. Latest Mobile Mix Report indicates that Android revenue exceeded iPhone-only revenue on their network amidst strong iOS growth.

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For those spouting off statistics/numbers from nowhere, you're an idiot. If you're going to give a precise number, back it up with sources. Otherwise said claim is null.
 
zacman said:
BTW everyone who says that the iPhone is just one phone and Android are many:

Seve Jobs himself compared the numbers of activated iOS devices to activated Android *phones*. He said around 260,000 iOS devices get activated every day. However iOS devices are not only the iPhones but also the iPad or the AppleTV.

So with Apple activating 260k iOS devices per day they are selling around 23 million devices (iPhones AND iPads AND AppleTV) while Android sold around 21 million *smartphones* in Q3.

So in Q3 the Android smartphones almost outsold ALL iOS devices together. Quite interesting.
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Not quite, you've left out two of Apple's biggest selling iOS devices. The Wi-fi only iPad, and the iPod Touch.

As an aside, the way these numbers were released is pointless. If you want to do OS market share comparisons, include all the devices with that OS. If you want to do phone market share comparisons, don't lump every phone with a single OS into a single category. Mixing it up isn't comparing apples to oranges, it's comparing apples (single type of item) to citrus fruit (entire category of item). It doesn't actually tell anyone anything useful. The sad thing is that the numbers get released like this because they know it will polarize the audience, generating more page hits and ad impressions. The really sad thing is that so many people fall for it.
 
Assuming they haven't upgraded, those who have bought the initial models from either camp, in eg iPhone 3G and G1, aren't that happy with the way things have progressed.

Obviously the issue plaguing old iPhone users is a bigger one and something that will continue in the future. With Android users, simply choosing the Nexus One would solve their issues.

With the way things are progressing it is really hard to remain in Apple's walled garden, unless of course finances, freedom, and choice is not an issue on the long run. Many are not prepared for such a commitment.
 
aohus said:
Funny how the Apple enthusiasts totally undervalue the power of search, and it's revenue potential.

Yes, Apple makes money from their hardware sales, but do you know whose making the dough every time someone searches on their smartphone? Google. Every time someone searches, kaching! Multiply that to all carriers in the U.S. Now scale it worldwide. Double kaching!

Don't underestimate the revenue potential of search. Hardware is bought once, search lives on with the smartphone for years to come.

Why did Uncle Steve go off in the earnings report? I mean, why would he be so antagonistic to Google? Apple sold over 19 million iPhones, so whats with the anger? Here's why. Latest Mobile Mix Report indicates that Android revenue exceeded iPhone-only revenue on their network amidst strong iOS growth.

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For those spouting off statistics/numbers from nowhere, you're an idiot. If you're going to give a precise number, back it up with sources. Otherwise said claim is null.
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So what? Did you not read my email? Google is tracking $1 Billion in Mobile revenue annually. Apple is pulling in ~$25 Billion, in iPhone Hardware sales alone.

Whats looks like the better business model?
 
tbrinkma said:
The sad thing is that the numbers get released like this because they know it will polarize the audience, generating more page hits and ad impressions. The really sad thing is that so many people fall for it.
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The real sad thing is people here complain about the validity of the numbers only when they do not favor Apple :p
 
Anti Apple fanboy/Borg checking in. Get ready to be assimilated by the Android collective. Resistance is futile!!!
 
spazzcat said:
So Apple with 2 models is doing a good job of keeping up with how many different Adorid models? And how many Adorid phones have been BOGO or just out right free?
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But Google doesn't have the advantage of millions of people who would buy their product just because it's Google, so it evens out.
 
paradox00 said:
If the iPhone customers are still spending more than Android customers, then yes. Developers don't go where the customers are, they go where the paying customers are.

That said, I highly doubt Android will achieve double the market share of iOS (note that this study only includes the iPhone), especially with WP7 devices coming out. WP7 competes with Android for manufacturer interest and shelf space on store shelves, but of which will ultimately impact how many Android phones are sold, I wouldn't expect Androids runaway growth (I'm referring to marketshare growth, I expect sales to grow at a crisp pace because the market is rapidly expanding) to continue if WP7 is even remotely successful. I don't expect that the phone OS market will be dominated by any one player in the near future. Successful developers will continue to develop for the iPhone if they want to remain successful, but I'd expect a lot of cross platform apps.
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Excellent point about WM7 competing for handset manufacturer attention. Apple doesn't appear worried, and Steve Jobs definitely learns from history and his own mistakes. They must have a strong feeling at Apple that they are doing things differently this time around.
 
would love to see how many android handsets are being bought on carriers without the iphone vs carriers with the iphone.

I will go out and say that most people are buying android phones because there is no iphone on there network like all my friends who refuse to go to att.

I would like to see the iPhone on all the same carriers as android has and then see who out sells who.
 
jhende7 said:
So what? Did you not read my email? Google is tracking $1 Billion in Mobile revenue annually. Apple is pulling in ~$25 Billion, in iPhone Hardware sales alone.

Whats looks like the better business model?
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Do the consumers buy a business model? iPhone makes almost half of Apple profits whilst Android is just a blip for Google. These are two very different companies. Apple probably started in PCs making more revenues on hardware and software than Microsoft (just on software). Look how this rivalry played out.
 
jhende7 said:
So what? Did you not read my email? Google is tracking $1 Billion in Mobile revenue annually. Apple is pulling in ~$25 Billion, in iPhone Hardware sales alone.

Whats looks like the better business model?
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Uh, like i said in my previous post, if you're gonna spout off numbers, BACK IT UP with a VALID source.

Your numbers don't mean anything unless you give it context, backing it up with a valid source. Sick of people spouting off numbers like its gospel.

EDIT: lol and youre the same kid who said that 80% of android users don't download apps... You have no source whatsoever to backup ANY of your claims. You're all hocus pocus kiddo.
 
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This thread is hilarious. Everyone is all "OMG! My phone isn't the most popular device anymore! Now people will laugh at me!"

It is almost as funny as the threads during the whole antennae debacle.

Feel free to bash Android. Nobody likes a fanboy, and I would prefer that all the hipster consumer brand-whores stay with Apple. Leave Android for the big-boys.

The absolute last thing I want is for developers to come flood the Google Market with 3 dozen fart apps and other iCrap that serves no purpose.
 
It is good to see to see the number of educated posts far outnumbering the fanboy ones.
 
firewood said:
So how many Google branded Nexus One's did Google sell from their Google store? How well compared with current i4 sales?
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hate to break it to ya but there are numerous 'google branded' phones out there, including the Droid X, OG (Original Droid), D2 (Droid 2), Samsung Galaxy phone series, etc. It has google branding on it...

and btw, Google didn't make the hardware for the Nexus One, it was a HTC phone that ran vanilla Android OS.
 
maflynn said:
The numbers are not surprising anyone except maybe apple fans. The responses are not surprising. Marginalizing the statistics with all sorts of excuses.

Yeah android is selling more then iPhone, to put it another way. Customers are choosing android over the iPhone. That's not to say the iPhone is bad, but rather android provides consumers with a choice. In the US, a choice of carrier, and phone type.

Choice is always going to win out, apple has enjoyed great profits and for two phones, its doing extremely well. Many people feel the need to defend the company or disregard the statistic.

Hopefully the competition from android and now microsoft will help spur apple on to greater innovation. It seems they've played it rather safe lately, and so this may help goose them along.
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Numbers aren't surprising to anyone :confused:

Consumers are stupid and want what everyone is talking about. The Android bandwagon is getting full and when it all settles down hopefully people will purchase there phones based on preference.
 
Tarzanman said:
This thread is hilarious. Everyone is all "OMG! My phone isn't the most popular device anymore! Now people will laugh at me!"

It is almost as funny as the threads during the whole antennae debacle.

Feel free to bash Android. Nobody likes a fanboy, and I would prefer that all the hipster consumer brand-whores stay with Apple. Leave Android for the big-boys.

The absolute last thing I want is for developers to come flood the Google Market with 3 dozen fart apps and other iCrap that serves no purpose.
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haha. Leave Android for the big boys.

Irony isn't lost on this forum is it. :D
 
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