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GayWay - the gay and lesbian discussion (aka. Any Gays here?)
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I believe in God, but not like that, so it's not a "sin" to me. In a way, it actually made me feel kinda relieved. I thought she was going to break things off for some other reason. I was thinking about beating her to it, because she had been avoiding me and blowing me off, but then she e-mail me to tell me what was going on. At least I know it wasn't me (just my genitalia).Guitarius said:
No reason to be mad, she's still the same person, and I still care about her. Even if she does use Windows.
Thanks. I try to be.Guitarius said:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Niemöller
I'm not gay, but that doesn't mean I should sit idly by as the rights of my homosexual brethren (and sisteren) are trampled upon. Sometimes, it doesn't dawn on people until they or someone they care about is affected.Guitarius said:
I'm being very esoteric right now aren't I? Perhaps it's the Nyquil.
Interesting Arguement
Here's an arguement for you guys...
Is someone considered gay by the sex they find "hot", or by the sex they fall in love with? (BTW, I'm straight)
Here's an arguement for you guys...
Is someone considered gay by the sex they find "hot", or by the sex they fall in love with? (BTW, I'm straight)
nightdweller25 said:
That's an interesting questions even for a heterosexual. For instance, I feel I was more in love with my ex-girlfriend emotionally than physically... and I've never really felt that way about anyone else. But because of the emotional connection we had I became physically attracted to her. In fact in general I don't really find either sex rather attractive at all.
Switch campaign
You know - over in another thread (I'm thinking it was "arguments against Macs), someone mentioned that people thought that only gays used Macs, but that he was straight.
I responded by being "shocked" that "breeders" were using Macs and declared that that's not the way the "Switch" campaign was supposed to work. That straight folks were supposed to fall in love with Apple computers and switch orientations so they could get one.
I have an explanation I do for the straight folks I meet for whom I'm the first gay person they know (which happens a lot around here). It's hard to do without visuals, but here goes:
Picture two equilateral triangles pointed upwards. (No pun here using triangles.) Make them out of transparency paper in your head.
One triangle is for physical attraction. The top point is for "no sex drive". The bottom left is for "max sex drive geared toward women". The bottom right point is for "max sex drive geared toward men." For physical attraction, we all fall somewhere on that triangle. Left half if women prevail. Right half if men prevail. Closer to the bottom if you have a super sex drive. Closer to the top (and meaning less which sex you prefer) the lower your sex drive.
I consider this triangle to be ruled predominently by genetics.
The second triangle is for emotional attraction. The top point is for those who have no desire for emotional bonds. The bottom left is for those whose emotional attraction is very strong and is geared toward women. The bottom right is for those whose emotional attraction is very strong and is geared toward men. As before, we all fall somewhere on this triangle. The higher up, the less your desire/need for emotional relationships and the less it matters the sex of the emotional partner. The further down, the stronger a role emotional attraction plays in your total attraction.
I consider this triangle to be ruled predominently by nurture.
Now (the reason we made this out of transparencies) - overlap the two triangles and find the mindpoint between the two points. Your true orientation (combining physical and emotional attraction with more weight given to the stronger) is shown.
Of course, the poor souls who have one dot on the left half and one dot on the right half are put in a horrible decision of choosing either physical or emotional and not really getting both out of a relationship. These are the folks who generally choose to lead the easier "straight" life and end up miserable or cheating on their spouses.
If the two match up, you should be able to find someone who fills both of your attractional needs.
That was the short version, but I'm late for work already. Gotta run!
(Edit - I realized in the car on the way to work that I wasn't clear on my dual triangle model that your dots are *inside* the triangle, not *on* the triangle.)
You know - over in another thread (I'm thinking it was "arguments against Macs), someone mentioned that people thought that only gays used Macs, but that he was straight.
I responded by being "shocked" that "breeders" were using Macs and declared that that's not the way the "Switch" campaign was supposed to work. That straight folks were supposed to fall in love with Apple computers and switch orientations so they could get one.
nightdweller25 said:
I have an explanation I do for the straight folks I meet for whom I'm the first gay person they know (which happens a lot around here). It's hard to do without visuals, but here goes:
Picture two equilateral triangles pointed upwards. (No pun here using triangles.) Make them out of transparency paper in your head.
One triangle is for physical attraction. The top point is for "no sex drive". The bottom left is for "max sex drive geared toward women". The bottom right point is for "max sex drive geared toward men." For physical attraction, we all fall somewhere on that triangle. Left half if women prevail. Right half if men prevail. Closer to the bottom if you have a super sex drive. Closer to the top (and meaning less which sex you prefer) the lower your sex drive.
I consider this triangle to be ruled predominently by genetics.
The second triangle is for emotional attraction. The top point is for those who have no desire for emotional bonds. The bottom left is for those whose emotional attraction is very strong and is geared toward women. The bottom right is for those whose emotional attraction is very strong and is geared toward men. As before, we all fall somewhere on this triangle. The higher up, the less your desire/need for emotional relationships and the less it matters the sex of the emotional partner. The further down, the stronger a role emotional attraction plays in your total attraction.
I consider this triangle to be ruled predominently by nurture.
Now (the reason we made this out of transparencies) - overlap the two triangles and find the mindpoint between the two points. Your true orientation (combining physical and emotional attraction with more weight given to the stronger) is shown.
Of course, the poor souls who have one dot on the left half and one dot on the right half are put in a horrible decision of choosing either physical or emotional and not really getting both out of a relationship. These are the folks who generally choose to lead the easier "straight" life and end up miserable or cheating on their spouses.
If the two match up, you should be able to find someone who fills both of your attractional needs.
That was the short version, but I'm late for work already. Gotta run!
(Edit - I realized in the car on the way to work that I wasn't clear on my dual triangle model that your dots are *inside* the triangle, not *on* the triangle.)
solvs said:
Solvs, you've just sumed up why Gays are persecuted - because they can be. We looked at Martin Niemoller's quote in our German lessons once (in german of course
). The Nazis came for anyone. And thats what everyone does.. they bully people because they can . 
*bumps...and...erm...grinds this thread back to the top of the stack*
One more day of boy-on-boy and girl-on-girl appreciation at the big MR. What else are you going to do? Go to the Apple Store and buy Tiger? Oh yeah, you CAN'T. So let's celebrate everyone on MacRumors who loves differently some more.
this thread back to the top of the stack*One more day of boy-on-boy and girl-on-girl appreciation at the big MR. What else are you going to do? Go to the Apple Store and buy Tiger? Oh yeah, you CAN'T. So let's celebrate everyone on MacRumors who loves differently some more.
i may have to dig up some pics of me being femme and not... it depends entirely on my haircut... when it's short, choppy, and spikey, i'm much more prettyboi acting... energetic, flambuoyant, hypersocial. When it's long and hippie-like (as now), i'm calm, relaxed, and i pass for straight. i don't do it on purpose, it's just a self-identity thing i suppose.
i'm looking forward to cutting my hair later this summer or fall, because i get to be queer again prolly the last time i can pull it off, i'm getting too old to be a prettyboi. not a teenager anymore, sigh.
i'm looking forward to cutting my hair later this summer or fall, because i get to be queer again
prolly the last time i can pull it off, i'm getting too old to be a prettyboi. not a teenager anymore, sigh.
rainman::|:| said:i'm looking forward to cutting my hair later this summer or fall, because i get to be queer again
*Sigh* I was so conservative and appropriate when I was a college student though. I firmly believe in slowly and steadily increasing the amount of inappropriate behavior I engage in now, as time passes on.
mkrishnan said:*Sigh* I was so conservative and appropriate when I was a college student though. I firmly believe in slowly and steadily increasing the amount of inappropriate behavior I engage in now, as time passes on.
yeah, it's becoming a tradition in my family to do that, it started when we couldn't figure out if my grandma was crazy, eccentric, senile or stoned (turns out it's a mixture of all 4). + the great uncles that make me look tame by comparison... they were coincidentally the first to come out in my family, paving the way for me and my gay cousins... So i suppose there is something to look forward to as i grow up
Thanks queer/druggie ancestors!rainman::|:| said:yeah, it's becoming a tradition in my family to do that, it started when we couldn't figure out if my grandma was crazy, eccentric, senile or stoned (turns out it's a mixture of all 4). + the great uncles that make me look tame by comparison... they were coincidentally the first to come out in my family, paving the way for me and my gay cousins... So i suppose there is something to look forward to as i grow up
interesting family history you have there paul.....
as to what you said about your hair its true, the longer your hair is the more hippieish and straight a guy seems, shorter and well kept is more femmy i guess, funny how long hair back in the old old days was conservitive too
PlaceofDis said:
I suppose long hair really depends on how you wear it. Styled long hair is a lot different from nappy hippy hair.
mkrishnan said:I suppose long hair really depends on how you wear it. Styled long hair is a lot different from nappy hippy hair.
I have to say- nappy hippie hair is bad. Ever been to Venice Beach?
whoa, whoa. no one ever said i had nappy hippy hair! i can't stand it being frizzy. so it's very combed and straight, and it's actually probably more like 70's-geek than hippy...
OK, time for a trip to the stylist... 70's geek indeed.
OK, time for a trip to the stylist... 70's geek indeed.
rainman::|:| said:
No, of course not. That was my point. Long hair can go either way. We got nothing but love for you in this thread.
But what's an example of a short cut that's femmy?
mkrishnan said:No, of course not. That was my point. Long hair can go either way. We got nothing but love for you in this thread.
But what's an example of a short cut that's femmy?
it can go either way, although on my campus i see most guys with nappier hair when it long, i personally am letting my hair grow, i think its at its longest since high school days, should be interesting how this turns out, i def. wont be letting it get crazy and crappy looking though
PlaceofDis said:
Yeah, mine is intermediate right now. It was very long, and then as I started going to a stylist more regularly, it creeped shorter and shorter.
It's as short as I want it atm though. I've found it's relatively hard to pull off hair that's ponytail length or longer and not have it get kinda crappy looking. Some people are able to do it, but it's tough for maany.....- Status