Let’s have the same policy for everything made from a German company.Who told you or implied that you are not free to criticize the EU??
Let’s have the same policy for everything made from a German company.Who told you or implied that you are not free to criticize the EU??
That blockheaded mandates will. Software updates are great, repairability is fine, and then there are blockheaded mandates. Two completely different things.You are not implying that repairability hinders innovation, are you?
Don’t enter EU market if EU policy is not with your liking. Ezpz. Otherwise, deal with these problems.Security, yes. Repair parts, maybe not so much. Apple could probably do it, but android makers don’t build in the same quantity that Apple does.
I really dislike the EU dictating to American companies.
For some unknown reason reliability and repairability becomes mutually exclusive now. It’s not like repair must be allowed to be performed by end user. Licensed technician exist for a reason.A bit too one-size-fits-all, isn't it?
And why 7? Seems like an arbitrary number of years.
Unintended consequences would be: higher prices and higher failure rate because some parts have to be designed to be more repairable while trading off reliability.
Looking at iPhone 12 64 GB on the MacIndex, it appears they can run several hundred dollars more ex VAT in Europe and no sales tax in US.
More people will hold their device longer as year goes by, be it price out of reach, personal demand drops, or simply don’t care about latest and greatest anymore. Fewer and fewer people will care about latest and greatest except people who reviews those as their job. Pandemic and lockdown only accelerates this trend.No, this is of interest to people that hold on to things longer than they should. This will have a negative effect on those that enjoy new things, and progression of new things since they will be hindered by 7 year old tech that has to be taken into consideration.
You are not implying that repairability hinders innovation, are you?
While there may be an exchange rate addition, Apple can hedge most exchange rate risk so 8.5% would be, IMHO, high for just exchange rate fluctuations; which is why I think at least some % is to account for legal requirements. Since it is amortized across all units sold it needed be too high. I suspect the delta is higher for Macs given the higher repair costs.Most of them are calculated with refund, not minus VAT Germany is listed at $965 when it should have been $899 because you cant refund all of your VAT. At $899 you are paying $70 more than US, or 8.5% more. When you factor in exchange rate hedging where you always want to price higher exchange rate rather than lower there are hardly any difference.
I wish they could make them repairable, given the life of batteries will be the limiting factor and we will face a growing mountain of waste simply due to battery degradation. Part of the problem is “design” wins out over repairablity. A removable stalk would leave a small line and no doubt the designers cringe at the idea of that spoiling their design. If companies were forced to deal with the waste they generate we would see more engineering for repair and recycle ease, IMHO.A product like the AirPods would probably never have existed if Apple engineers had to consider repairability.
To me, there’s nothing wrong with an index which ranks how readily serviceable a product is (something like what ifixit does) so long as there is no penalty for a company who scores on the lower end, and they are not forced to make their products adhere to arbitrary requirements (eg: batteries must be readily replaceable).
Anyone who sticks to the same phone for 7 years is a hero in my book. The longest I've done is 1 month shy of 3 years and that seem like forever
There are a lot of regulations as to what a company needs to do, to be legally allowed to operate or sell products in a country. Why not this?It’s one thing to regulate and tell companies what they can’t do. But when you tell them what they must do (to a certain extent), it’s a bit much, especially in this regard.
Taking a 5,6,7 year old iPhone to a licensed service technician? Really? Probably far cheaper and better to get a two or three year old device that works.For some unknown reason reliability and repairability becomes mutually exclusive now. It’s not like repair must be allowed to be performed by end user. Licensed technician exist for a reason.
Taking a 5,6,7 year old iPhone to a licensed service technician? Really? Probably far cheaper and better to get a two or three year old device that works.
Yet the basic warranty for a Mercedes is 4 yearsWorks fine in other industries like with cars though.
Yet the basic warranty for a Mercedes is 4 years
Not for all people and not everyone wants to give up certain features that only old device has (cough) headphone jack (cough).Taking a 5,6,7 year old iPhone to a licensed service technician? Really? Probably far cheaper and better to get a two or three year old device that works.
It doesn’t specify full capacity though. Is it unreasonable to provide proportionally proper amount of parts for some occasional repair that happens way later?In Spain they passed a law that requires manufacturers to give 3 years warranty (instead of 2) and 10 years of spare parts.
Manufacturers have said that another year of warranty is not a problem but 10 years of spare parts is absolutely nonsensical.
Sleeking looking device and unibody certainly gains more appeal than a slightly ugly but otherwise easier to repair and easier to maintain product. That’s not to say we go back to Osborn days when a “portable” is 20KG luggable case, but acknowledging the society under heavy pressure to pollute the environment seems to be far more difficult than ever smh.I wish they could make them repairable, given the life of batteries will be the limiting factor and we will face a growing mountain of waste simply due to battery degradation. Part of the problem is “design” wins out over repairablity. A removable stalk would leave a small line and no doubt the designers cringe at the idea of that spoiling their design. If companies were forced to deal with the waste they generate we would see more engineering for repair and recycle ease, IMHO.
That’s more like “US superior” mindset, but I won’t dive deep into it here.Why? The US should dictate the rules over all territories in your view? If Apple wants to sell products in certain regions, they must comply with the laws of such region.
Nothing wrong with that mindset, it is after all, 100% correct. We are the BEST. We gave you apple, we shall take apple away. I don't support 3rd party companies repairing our devices either if they can't get the tooling right to adapt, then they die off. Apple should not have to change its design to cater to anyone, or stock/waste money on parts they will never need.That’s more like “US superior” mindset, but I won’t dive deep into it here.
The sad part is the society as a whole would probably only acknowledge that well until it is way too late and we are approaching ultimate extinction.Totally agree. Everything we throw away, sticks around. Even if it is recycled. Remember, it's [1] REDUCE; [2] REUSE; and then last [3] RECYCLE.
Let's work on [1] and [2]. It's ok if your toy isn't as shiny as a new one if you are helping everyone out.