Really? Then why do Nikon, Sony, Cannon and the rest still make compact cameras?
To the OP how about posting some of your photos and some of your friends? Then we could judge for ourselves.
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Really? Then why do Nikon, Sony, Cannon and the rest still make compact cameras?
To the OP how about posting some of your photos and some of your friends? Then we could judge for ourselves.
They make them for pros and enthusiasts! Theyre right the regular person thats not particularly interested in photography or looking for a high grade camera are gonna just use the camera they carry with them everywhere they go.I use mine for everything and the only thing I have even considered getting a better camera for is to do ebay listings and thats it.Now im not saying no one wants a camera but a lot of people arent gonna shell out the cash for another camera unless they have specific needs for one.
Let's face it, you need a real camera with a big lens to take top-notch professional quality photographs.
Get a Nikon DSLR
Having said that, the BEST camera is the one you have with you, which if you're like me is more likely to be your phone.
Get a Nikon DSLR
Having said that, the BEST camera is the one you have with you, which if you're like me is more likely to be your phone.
EVERYONE uses their phone. Hardly anyone I know uses a point and shoot. I'm sure there will come a day where they will be no longer needed, not tomorrow, but years from now. I haven't shopped for a point and shoot in like 5 years. And my Nikon is gathering dust somewhere.
Sure you're not a plant for sammy?
As another said if you wish to have good photos you need to use a real camera not a phone with a camera. A lot of factors go into good photos.... I suggest a photo class to learn how to properly take great photos. I'm being 100% serious.... I took photography in high school and it really opened my eyes to what it takes to produce good photos.
All you need to do is go onto the web and you can see tons of great photos produced with the i5. I guess I'm suggesting the issues isn't the camera but the person wielding it.
Try checking this out for some ideas: http://www.popphoto.com/gallery/10-tips-making-your-smartphone-photos-look-they-came-real-camera
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Sure you're not a plant for sammy?
As another said if you wish to have good photos you need to use a real camera not a phone with a camera. A lot of factors go into good photos.... I suggest a photo class to learn how to properly take great photos. I'm being 100% serious.... I took photography in high school and it really opened my eyes to what it takes to produce good photos.
All you need to do is go onto the web and you can see tons of great photos produced with the i5. I guess I'm suggesting the issues isn't the camera but the person wielding it.
Try checking this out for some ideas: http://www.popphoto.com/gallery/10-tips-making-your-smartphone-photos-look-they-came-real-camera
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He's right, though. The S4 does take amazing pictures, even in low light. I'd know because I owned one before getting my 5S and it's the only thing I actually liked about the phone, save for the massive display. The pictures I took with my S4 far outclassed the pictures taken with my iPhone 5, no questions asked. And the pictures looked great on the computer, so I don't know what some people are talking about when they say the S4's pictures looked good only on the phone's display.
The main reason that the pictures were better than those that I took with the 5 seemed to be mainly because they were just so much sharper. I think this has to do with it having a bigger sensor (13MP vs. 8MP on the 5/5S). I'm not a pro photographer or anything so this could be completely incorrect, but in my opinion, having 13MP is better than the 8MP on the 5S. Yes, I'm aware that more MP doesn't mean better pictures, but in the S4, it seems that that's exactly what happened. My reasoning for this is that one, as I said before, I believe it allowed the phone to take much sharper pictures with more detail, and two, because it allows you to zoom into the picture on the phone or a computer, and not lose as much detail as you would when zooming in on a picture taken with an 8MP camera. I haven't really used the 5S's camera much yet so I don't really know how it compares, but I'm expecting it to be slightly better than the camera in the 5, but not as good as the one on my S4.
Don't get me wrong, the S4 definitely sucked, save for the camera (and the big display), which was definitely a winner and produced simply amazing shots.
Digital point and shoots are a long way from being on their way out. Smart phone camera tech is getting better at a slower rate then real camera tech and the prices are moving opposite directions. So basically smartphone cameras while they are getting better aren't catching up and are getting more expensive.
Comparatively speaking the best, most expensive smartphone camera is utter crap vs a mediocre point and shoot. I mean seriously night shots suck, and I still see purple hazes in day shots from the iPhone 5....it's crap.
I don't think you need to be a pro or even any type of enthusiast to appreciate having nicer photos of important events vs not as good photos. People willing to compromise quality for convenience is what you mean. I do that all the time because I don't want to carry a camera on me.
1. https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130130145630-29478030-death-of-the-point-and-click-digital-camera?_mSplash=1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/9361867/Digital-camera-sales-slump-as-people-use-smartphones-to-take-snaps.html
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What is there to judge? The OP has the impression the quality of photos of the htc one and S4 are better - so do other people. It wont change because you determine otherwise.
For the record, I'm not a pro pic taker, nor am I a novice. I know there is an auto focus by tap and a lock available, but almost no image stabilization. It is out of pure observation that other phones produce better quality photos. Im just a regular guy taking regular pics like millions of others. No I don't need a class on pic taking nor a SLR. sure there are apps for post picture editing but such shouldn't be needed if said features were by default. It's ok you guys, apple can have weakenesses too. This is just my gripe. No over analyzation necessary. Like I said, I'm hoping the 5S proves me wrong.
Let's clarify the question: low light photography is a nightmare on every, and I repeat every, compact camera, and a phone definitely is one compact camera.
With a dslr also, with a much better (and bigger) sensor you still need a good lens to take decent shots in low light. My 50mm / 1.4 alone costs almost half the price of an iPhone 5s.
That's no practical solution (the ridiculous flash definitely isn't) with a compact camera.
With a dslr also, with a much better (and bigger) sensor you still need a good lens to take decent shots in low light. My 50mm / 1.4 alone costs almost half the price of an iPhone 5s.
That's no practical solution (the ridiculous flash definitely isn't) with a compact camera.
Maybe you missed my post when I said that the others with phones took the SAME photos and theirs came out far better on their samsungs and htc's than my iphone. No complicated reasonings like you stated, no fancy talk of lenses or technique, this is everyday real life pics of real life people. The proof was in the pudding.
I disagree I can take a quality night shot with an average point and shoot as long as it has shutter speed and I have a stable platform. Far from being a nightmare.
I'm in Chicago for the first time on business and I took some pics in millennium park. Using a canon point and shoot they turned out great, using my iPhone all pics were pitch black. Now keep in mind this is a well lit park.
5s Vs lumia 1020 Vs S4 camera
Here is usatoday comparison of camera:
So, the bottom line:
The Galaxy has great specs and the best HD screen we've seen on a phone, but we weren't blown away by the overall photographic results. Shots in broad daylight were fine, and we liked the color rendition at Tuttle's, but low-light was so poor and sharpness less than the others we have to grade this at No. 3.
As a photographer, the Lumia should be my overall winner. It certainly is in sharpness and low light. But I didn't like the controls; the phone is heavier than comparable competitors; and the white-balance issues were bothersome. Potential purchasers should note the lack of apps available for the phone 150,000 Microsoft says, vs. nearly 1 million for iOS and Android. That's still a lot of apps. but notable omissions include the world's most popular photo app, Instagram, along with Vine, Camera+ and Snapchat.
We didn't expect to put the new iPhone at the top of the list. It's just a basic, point-and-shoot camera. But beyond the extreme low-light example, the iPhone produced the most consistent, best overall results amazing stuff for a feature tacked onto a device built for e-mail, Web surfing and phone calls. The images weren't as ultra-sharp as the Lumia's, but they were extremely sharp; they had better color in more situations and great results nine out of 10 times. The camera was a joy to use, and while the screen size of the phone isn't as impressive as either the Galaxy or Lumia for viewing, the final results are what matter the most.
Here is usatoday comparison of camera:
So, the bottom line:
The Galaxy has great specs and the best HD screen we've seen on a phone, but we weren't blown away by the overall photographic results. Shots in broad daylight were fine, and we liked the color rendition at Tuttle's, but low-light was so poor and sharpness less than the others we have to grade this at No. 3.
As a photographer, the Lumia should be my overall winner. It certainly is in sharpness and low light. But I didn't like the controls; the phone is heavier than comparable competitors; and the white-balance issues were bothersome. Potential purchasers should note the lack of apps available for the phone 150,000 Microsoft says, vs. nearly 1 million for iOS and Android. That's still a lot of apps. but notable omissions include the world's most popular photo app, Instagram, along with Vine, Camera+ and Snapchat.
We didn't expect to put the new iPhone at the top of the list. It's just a basic, point-and-shoot camera. But beyond the extreme low-light example, the iPhone produced the most consistent, best overall results amazing stuff for a feature tacked onto a device built for e-mail, Web surfing and phone calls. The images weren't as ultra-sharp as the Lumia's, but they were extremely sharp; they had better color in more situations and great results nine out of 10 times. The camera was a joy to use, and while the screen size of the phone isn't as impressive as either the Galaxy or Lumia for viewing, the final results are what matter the most.
I have to see that photos ... I'm pretty sure the quality is very poor ...
My son's galaxy s3 don't do any better than my iPhone or my Lumia in low light.
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You're speaking about a still landscape, where shutter speed can make the difference ....
I think the OP is speaking about more "dynamic" shots ...
I don't actually believe any of the camera's on phones are that good. I hardly ever use mine. They are a compromise. The best camera you can squeeze into a phone. Interestingly they are now working on the issue the other way round. Modern cameras have built in wifi etc. I use a proper camera.
From all I've seen, 5s has a better camera than S4, especially in low light (where it's not even close). In bright daylight they are both good. One other thing that is so much better on the iPhone 5s is video stabilization. Just go to youtube and find some comparisons. It's really bad on the galaxy s4.
If you're taking low light photos (of not moving objects), download Pure shot camera app (there are lots of other apps, but this is one of the best), which allows exposure times up to 1s.
If you're taking low light photos (of not moving objects), download Pure shot camera app (there are lots of other apps, but this is one of the best), which allows exposure times up to 1s.
Eh. I bought an HTC One in May when it came out. True, in darker situations its a bit more capable. But damn. It should tell you something that I continued to keep my 4S with me all the time for taking photos. The HTC just sucks in most conditions, and its a big reason why I have a 5s on order. There is no Android camera, to my knowledge, that does as well all around with photos as the iPhone. Nokia? Close call. But Android? Nope.
The S4 takes pretty crappy low light photos. Grainy, and blurry is the norm.
Good lighting pics are great, but low light sucks ass.
I think all of us that are responding to this thread need to see some of your camera samples!!!
I bought the 5s for the camera! I moved to it from the iPhone 5, the camera in the 5s is MUCH better. Better light transmission and low light performance with better noise control. I am a photographer and I can tell the difference.
If your camera is not working properly, it should be replaced or checked. Here is a quick sample in HDR mode. The photo is unedited.
I bought the 5s for the camera! I moved to it from the iPhone 5, the camera in the 5s is MUCH better. Better light transmission and low light performance with better noise control. I am a photographer and I can tell the difference.
If your camera is not working properly, it should be replaced or checked. Here is a quick sample in HDR mode. The photo is unedited.
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Ok, here are some shots I have taken with my iPhone 5.
These are untouched, unedited photos.
Yes my hand is steady, yes I tapped to focus and auto is on. these are NOT zoomed in.
Like i said, no novice. You judge. Click to view them in max size. they are grainy, out of focus with almost no sharpness. Mostly ALL my photos end up like this. No, there is no clear cover over the lens.
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These are untouched, unedited photos.
Yes my hand is steady, yes I tapped to focus and auto is on. these are NOT zoomed in.
Like i said, no novice. You judge. Click to view them in max size. they are grainy, out of focus with almost no sharpness. Mostly ALL my photos end up like this. No, there is no clear cover over the lens.
I was waiting for a "you're doing it wrong" thread and here it is. Must be in honor of Job's passing.
I never really had problems with taking night photos, but I'm completely unable to take photos of my kid or dogs. They all come out blurry. iPhone is only for taking picture of still objects or people posing.
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I've own every iPhone since the beginning and have yet to take a pic of a moving object that didn't come out as a blur. Until they fix that on phones (I can't tell for Android phones though, I've never used them), digital cameras that have fast shutter speed are going nowhere. Anyone with children should own one, not rely on their phone's camera.
Getting annoyed with the camera quality
Inside a dark booth after sunset. iPhone 5s. Focus and exposure on the menu board.
I'm sure it won't look perfect on a computer screen (especially as it's been compressed by whatever compression method the iOS Tapatalk app uses), but it preserves what my eyes saw pretty well.
To the OP: there is a lot that software can do. The other phones might have boosted the dark areas to look more pleasing, but I find that the iPhone (the whole line in general) aims to preserve what the eyes see.
If you want it to be brighter, focus/exposure lock on a darker part then. Use Camera+ for separate focus and exposure lock then. Give a crappy camera to a good photographer, they can take good pictures anyway. The way to go is to learn how to control your camera to get you the look you want.
Inside a dark booth after sunset. iPhone 5s. Focus and exposure on the menu board.
I'm sure it won't look perfect on a computer screen (especially as it's been compressed by whatever compression method the iOS Tapatalk app uses), but it preserves what my eyes saw pretty well.
To the OP: there is a lot that software can do. The other phones might have boosted the dark areas to look more pleasing, but I find that the iPhone (the whole line in general) aims to preserve what the eyes see.
If you want it to be brighter, focus/exposure lock on a darker part then. Use Camera+ for separate focus and exposure lock then. Give a crappy camera to a good photographer, they can take good pictures anyway. The way to go is to learn how to control your camera to get you the look you want.
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