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I'll also skip the X for a year. Apple often had it's problems with completely new versions and technologies. FaceID is a new tech, and will probably improve fast (speed, reliability, better viewing angle etc.). OLED is also new for Apple, and we will see how it's working for them. I often heard about issues with OLED displays. So we will see. Also the new user interface because of the missing homebutton has to prove to be intuitive on a day to day basis.

On top of that, I also think that the availability of the X will be limited for some month.

That's why I go with the 8+ for now, what is probably the most matured iPhone Apple has ever built.
 
Id be willing to bet that next years iPhone X will be more of an “S” model than a full generation leap. Those expecting Touch ID under the screen, the removal of the notch or even a smaller notch will probably be disappointed. Of course I could be wrong but most likely, all we’ll see is:

1. More powerful chip

2. Maybe a higher MP camera

3. Maybe a brighter screen (800 nits?)

4. A larger 6.4” option

5. More colors
 
I think as phones continue increasingly become more expensive, I would say a large majority do not have over $1000 to spend on an iPhone annually. Which is why they resort to financing options, which can be a disadvantage or advantage pending when they upgrade and what they do with the phone.
IMHO, if you cannot pay 1000 just like that on a phone, you cannot afford it. It is not really needed to have such an expensive phone
 
Consumers and sales numbers will decide if its better or not😉
To me its not better and I do not wear gloves every day. Only a few times a year when it snows.
Touch ID is very reliable, fast and secure.


They abandoned the R&D a year ago, because FaceID is better - They said so themselves.

If you look at it - isn't it more "star trek" and convenient to just open the phone when you look at it?

Or is it better, to take of the cloves, dry your hands, to reach out to a certain area of the phone, to authorize?
 
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IMHO, if you cannot pay 1000 just like that on a phone, you cannot afford it. It is not really needed to have such an expensive phone

If you are asking whether people are capable of paying $900-$1000 upfront to get a new phone, the number of people who can pay this way are drastically lower.

I'm not rich, but I have $1000 in my bank acct if I wanted a new phone. But I bet this is far from the average.

And for married people and families...you may be talking $2000, $3000, or more.

That's a lot of dineros...
 
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IMHO, if you cannot pay 1000 just like that on a phone, you cannot afford it. It is not really needed to have such an expensive phone

There are different ways of paying for phone even if somebody has the money or not. It's just rather they choose to spend the whole amount or subsidize the phone. Debt to income ratio is important, but many who have the money, may find it more convenient to pay the phone off incrementally. Again, one should consider what's an advantage to them based off income.
 
I would buy 1000 phone only if I have at least 100-200K in my bank account. I always buy cash and always think if I need it and if I can really afford.
I think iPhone X is a disappointment. It would have been a no brainer for me in not for these three reasons:
1. Touch ID lacking
2. Ugly white back panel
3. Screen is not edge to edge
I was really hoping that they will do somehing that will not have the above compromises. Biggest advantage is the iOS.

If you are asking whether people are capable of paying $900-$1000 upfront to get a new phone, the number of people who can pay this way are drastically lower.

I'm not rich, but I have $1000 in my bank acct if I wanted a new phone. But I bet this is far from the average.

And for married people and families...you may be talking $2000, $3000, or more.

That's a lot of dineros...
 
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I would buy 1000 phone only if I have at least 100-200K in my bank account. I always buy cash and always think if I need it and if I can really afford.
I think iPhone X is a disappointment. It would have been a no brainer for me in not for these three reasons:
1. Touch ID lacking
2. Ugly white back panel
3. Screen is not edge to edge
I was really hoping that they will do somehing that will not have the above compromises. Biggest advantage is the iOS.
So you will only spend between .5% - and 1% of your current bank account on a phone?

That would mean that the average american household should only be paying 10-20 bucks for their phone.
 
So you will only spend between .5% - and 1% of your current bank account on a phone?

That would mean that the average american household should only be paying 10-20 bucks for their phone.
This is just me. Phone is a phone for me. I do the same with the car and etc. If ai buy a car, I pay in full right away. This way I know if I can afford or not.
 
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While it's nice that you are so fiscally responsible, as long as carriers offer payment plans ... it's unnecessary.
Totally inderstand. Just my thing. Buy people are free to do what they think is right. It is just I see that in a lot of cases people in US to not own anything, bank does.
 
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That’s the beauty of the IUP, you can use it for a year and then trade it in. Or you can keep it paying another year and you own it. So it’s a 0% loan to purchase with a guaranteed trade in value. Does it help to think of it that way?

Always more fun to buy with other people’s money and pay it off over time.
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I would buy 1000 phone only if I have at least 100-200K in my bank account. I always buy cash and always think if I need it and if I can really afford.
I think iPhone X is a disappointment. It would have been a no brainer for me in not for these three reasons:
1. Touch ID lacking
2. Ugly white back panel
3. Screen is not edge to edge
I was really hoping that they will do somehing that will not have the above compromises. Biggest advantage is the iOS.


Good don’t buy it. I just moved up on the buy list 🙂
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Totally inderstand. Just my thing. Buy people are free to do what they think is right. It is just I see that in a lot of cases people in US to not own anything, bank does.

I just purchased a car. They offered 0% financing as an incentive. I had planned to pay cash for the car but now I have use of and interest on the money. If they had offered a cash incentive I would have taken that route but they didn’t so it was give them my money now or later. Same deal with IUP, I have use of the money for a year and can continue to pay and own the phone or get guaranteed trade in value. And as said above, no issues with selling it.
 
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I would buy 1000 phone only if I have at least 100-200K in my bank account.
does this mean you'll buy a $500 phone only if you have at least $50,000?
and you'll buy a $100 phone only if you have at least $10,000?
and you'll only buy a $25,000 car if you have $2.5million?

or do your numbers fluctuate some? if so, what are the factors?
just curious.. to me, it seems like an odd ratio for consumer goods.
 
I guess my thought has been to no longer get the first model year upgrade. I will continue to get the S device to enjoy the refined version. I won’t get every new iPhone any longer. I’ve had enough at this point unless something groundbreaking comes along and the likelihood of that has been pretty low.
 
Very good point.

For the iPad...1st gen was weak. Then lightning struck again with the 1st gen iPad Pro and the paltry storage max of 128gb. Quickly rectified by the 256gb model when they intro'd the Pro 9.7 less than a year later.

Boy, were some 12.9" buyers ticked off w/Apple! LOL... 😀 😀 😀

I'm content with waiting to see what 2018 brings...anybody that wants to throw $$$ Apple's way this year is more than welcome to. 🙂

... and you know they will. LOL

I did the same thing with the Watch... just got my first, the Series 3.

I was reading reviews on the S3 recently and quite a few of them said that the S1 Watch was pretty bad.
 
... and you know they will. LOL

I did the same thing with the Watch... just got my first, the Series 3.

I was reading reviews on the S3 recently and quite a few of them said that the S1 Watch was pretty bad.

Series 1 is essentially the first generation Apple Watch with nothing more than an upgraded processor. It's still very functional, but it all depends what you're using it for. But the Series 3 is fairly significant Leap in speed over the first generation Watch.
 
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