Getting irritated now

[Mildredop]

Yes, of course I have. It shouldn't be necessary and it didn't work.

I paired and unpaired. That fixed the weather but not the sunrise/sunset. And it didn't, of course, fix the strap design flaw. Oh, and it took about 20 minutes.

I hear your pain. It always annoys me when stuff that should work doesn't. It makes me want to go and knock on their door and ask if they're having any problems with my thousand pounds...

I was confident the Apple watch wouldn't be all that. It's just a computer and, like the iPhone, would be filled with bugs, annoyances and dead-ends.

What's the issue with the sunrise/sunset thing?

 

[Bromeo]

I had this happen with the complications: both weather and sunrise/sunset were showing "--" and the weather app would never seem to load. I figured I had little to lose since the watch doesn't really store anything, so I unpaired and restored it. Just for pain and suffering, I also restored my iPhone, which could churn away reloading from backup while I worked. The end result is the complications and apps all came back to life. I don't know if the combination of restoring both devices, if it was overkill, or simply coincidence, but that process concluded with everything running much smoother on both phone and watch.

Another thing that seems to slow down app loading is being just on the edge of Bluetooth range from my iPhone. I wish the watch were more aggressive with hopping on wifi in that case.

As to accuracy of the sunset time, some percentage of people will consider the watch complication to be a bit off if they live around hills or mountains. The apparent sunset time due to terrain is always earlier than astronomical sunset time. I hear it gets really weird in Alaska.

I also have a Moto 360 I use for software development. It's a nice watch, but nowhere near as comfortable or useful as the Apple watch, IMHO. It was also just too bulky on my 160mm wrist. Both watches feature black stainless steel, but the build quality and internals are at quite different levels. The distance tracking was usually 20% short due to my long stride and no way to calibrate the 360. That may have been improved with the recent update. I also agree that the persistent cards overlay is a visual annoyance vs the red dot. I did like the nightstand mode on the Moto, and I'm pleased to see that coming to Apple Watch.

 

[AFDoc]

My Apple fandom is being sorely tested at the moment. I've paid nearly a grand for a watch. I expect it to work.

1. The sunrise/sunset complication doesn't work. This is clearly a known issue as there are threads in here and elsewhere complaining about it.

2. Today the weather app won't work. Two dashes where the temperature is supposed to be. The app won't load. Just a blank screen and the stupid white balls spinning forever.

3. Again, as others have observed, the hugely expensive link strap appears to have a design flaw: half the time it doesn't click shut. You think it has, then seconds later it snaps open again.

I'm not interested in being told about this being a first gen product. I'm not interested in being told to restart or unpair. I'm not interested in sending it back. I expect it to work. That's what happens when you spend a thousand pounds on a watch: you expect it to work.

Fewer smug presentations, Apple, more actually getting your **** together.

Vote with your wallet take it back and move on with your life.

 

[jwarthman]

I once had this error with the Solar Complication and weather too.
It happend because the location service did not work properly on the iPhone. I saw this by opening the Astro. watch face and saw that my location was totally wrong.
Did a reboot and switched the location services in the iPhone off and on and I think I forced the Phone to get my location by opening the maps app and press on the location button.
After that it worked again.
And did not fail since then.

Yes, essentially, the watch loses track of your location. But your solution process is more complex than it needs to be.

To confirm, go to the Astronomy face and see if your location on the surface of the earth is marked with the green dot. If you're missing sunrise/sunset times, the green dot on the Astronomy face will likely be missing.

To fix this, go to the Maps app, and use the location icon to go to your current location. Once it does, go back to the Astronomy face and verify the green dot is back where it belongs. This may take a bit of time. It seemed to help to cycle between earth, moon, and solar system views on the Astronomy face.

Once the Astronomy face shows your position on the earth with a green dot, go back to the other watch face to confirm the sunrise/sunset times are showing again.

Hope this helps!

 

[TheRainKing]

You mean, like PING, the first MBA, or like MobileMe? Which one, specifically?

(insert eye roll here)

PING may have been a failure, but it wasn't really a big deal because it didn't affect anyone. It was completely free and you either used it or you didn't. Creating a new product that people pay for and rely on, that doesn't work properly, is MUCH worse.

Aside from being overpriced, I'm not sure what your issue with the first MBA is. It looked gorgeous, everyone wanted one, and it was indeed the future of notebooks.

Yes MobileMe sucked, which is why Steve Jobs screamed at everyone involved and made them fix it. Can you see Tim Cook doing something like that? No. Because he's not a product guy. He doesn't have a clue whether something is good or bad.

Apple under Jobs was great but far from perfect.

That's the whole point, I guess. Even though Apple had it's flaws under Steve Jobs it was still great. Tim Cook's reign has been far less than great.

 

[jthesssin]

Ah! I've been swiping it wrong lol. Thanks for the tip.

"Swipe-Gate"

 

[WilliamG]

My wife and I both experience the sunset/sunrise not updating. Also, if she goes on any trips in the USA, it never seems to update the correct sunrise/sunset temperatures when she gets back to Seattle. It's always set to the "other place" until...

I've found that to fix the sunrise/sunset issue (temporarily until it happens again) is just to reset the watch. Hold the crown and contacts/Apple Pay button in simultaneously until you see the Apple logo. Then let go. Give it a few minutes after unlocking the Watch again, and your sunrise/sunset times will be back.

Why does this happen? No idea. It's annoying, for sure, though.

 

[maxsix]

The "issues" people are complaining about are merely normal bugs and annoyances that first generation Apple products come with. Best practice when it comes to premium priced Apple products... is to wait for the second generation.

Buying a second gen well sorted out and improved product, will save plenty of time and money.

 

[WilliamG]

The "issues" people are complaining about are merely normal bugs and annoyances that first generation Apple products come with. Best practice when it comes to premium priced Apple products... is to wait for the second generation.

Buying a second gen well sorted out and improved product, will save plenty of time and money.

What? Just.. no. There's nothing wrong with the "product." It's just software bugs. They'll be fixed LONG before Apple Watch 2 is out.

 

[Aluminum213]

No issues with my watch experience, love it

 

[Shinigami301]

This is most easily fixed by simply opening maps in either phone or on watch and letting the phone get a geographic fix on location.

 

[Knightcastle]

I'm not interested in being told about this being a first gen product. I'm not interested in being told to restart or unpair. I'm not interested in sending it back.

You may be in the wrong place... Hah.

 

[Ke1ington]

I've had the weather display problem on my watch face as well. It comes and goes. I have read numerous forums and articles about people having the same issue. It's definitely a bug because even when my iPhone is working fine, sometimes I'll still have the "--", and sometimes it'll just be one, like the H:"--" and then L:"66" will still work, other times, its both and location. Oh well.

I saw your second example quite a few times. Seemed to be later in the day so I assumed the "H: --" was intentional since the temperature was on it's decline for the day. I suppose I could be wrong.

That's the whole point, I guess. Even though Apple had it's flaws under Steve Jobs it was still great. Tim Cook's reign has been far less than great.

You may want to check Apple's earnings and estimated value since Mr. Cook assumed control.

"Swipe-Gate"

We really need a down vote button.

 

[Ke1ington]

Ooops

 

[saberahul]

When your $1,000+ computer crashes do you just complain or try troubleshooting, which may or may not include restarting it? If you buy a new car and a few months into ownership it has a problem do you leave it by the side of the road or do you take it to the dealer?

I can see your frustration but if anyone expects any type of technology product they buy to work flawlessly 100% of the time for their entire lifetime then they aren't in touch with reality. Cars, computer, phones, tablet, watches, routers... It sounds like you are having more issues than most people but I'm sure they can be fixed with a little bit of effort.

The difference is that it is a watch, which to me is the most personal gadget I will ever own. Now I understand that Apple, and many others, decided to take a pure mechanical piece of ingenuity and put electrical components into it in hopes to get poor souls' money and give them more functionality than just time keeping and a chronograph, but to watch connoisseurs like myself, Apple essentially took something intended for one thing, made it into something else, and expected the mass population to accept it. That being said, you're correct that it will result in problems and cause failures, but I, for one, will never buy an Apple watch because of the very reason that I know that these problems will occur and such is unacceptable to me on something I call to be most personal to me.

My 2¢.

 

[Roller]

The difference is that it is a watch, which to me is the most personal gadget I will ever own. Now I understand that Apple, and many others, decided to take a pure mechanical piece of ingenuity and put electrical components into it in hopes to get poor souls' money and give them more functionality than just time keeping and a chronograph, but to watch connoisseurs like myself, Apple essentially took something intended for one thing, made it into something else, and expected the mass population to accept it. That being said, you're correct that it will result in problems and cause failures, but I, for one, will never buy an Apple watch because of the very reason that I know that these problems will occur and such is unacceptable to me on something I call to be most personal to me.

My 2¢.

That's rather condescending. I suppose that you also don't consider any watch that contains electronic components, of which there've been many since the 1970s, worthy. Of course, you have a right to be a mechanical timepiece aficionado. And the Apple Watch, as an wrist computer with complex software, will surely have problems, just as your iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Pro do. However, that doesn't mean that the Apple Watch won't be useful to some people, especially as its OS and apps mature.

As for personal gadgets, I hope you never need a cardiac pacemaker or other implanted device - now those are personal.

 

[saberahul]

I suppose that you also don't consider any watch that contains electronic components, of which there've been many since the 1970s, worthy

You're right, I don't. But that is my personal opinion and belief. What 1970s watch has electronic components? Only ones that come to my mind are the ones with digital displays.

However, that doesn't mean that the Apple Watch won't be useful to some people

Never said it won't be useful to some people. It won't be useful to me, which is why I said what I did. Now people here don't have to care whether it will be useful to me or not, but it is a public forum so I shared my opinion.

As for personal gadgets, I hope you never need a cardiac pacemaker or other implanted device - now those are personal

Interesting point, I guess you're correct. Fine, I'll list those first in my personal gadget list and then a watch. How about that?

Maybe it is just me, but like some get very picky about computers, etc., I get picky about watches

 

[jm5309]

I'm pretty irritated with mine too. I really do like it, but only if everything works. I (did) use Siri on it a lot while driving to play whatever songs I wanted. Now she can't find any of them. I can tell her to play a song, and she'll pick something random, but any specific song, and "uh oh, there's a problem." I've rebooted the phone and the watch. I've unpaired and repaired. It's really disappointing.

Also, the "stand up" feature really is a joke. I would love for it to work properly, but it just doesn't. I was up and moving around quite a lot for ten minutes and it never registered movement. I want it to pick up on activity without me wondering whether or not it will register. I love completing the activity rings but the stand up feature just irritates me more than anything now and makes me lose interest in completing it.

 

[eoblaed]

My Apple fandom is being sorely tested at the moment. I've paid nearly a grand for a watch. I expect it to work.

1. The sunrise/sunset complication doesn't work. This is clearly a known issue as there are threads in here and elsewhere complaining about it.

2. Today the weather app won't work. Two dashes where the temperature is supposed to be. The app won't load. Just a blank screen and the stupid white balls spinning forever.

Brand new software running on brand new hardware. Weird that there are little bugs here and there.

I'm sure these will be fixed soon. Enjoy your watch for the cool moments it provides, don't stress on the minor issues that are going to be resolved shortly.

3. Again, as others have observed, the hugely expensive link strap appears to have a design flaw: half the time it doesn't click shut. You think it has, then seconds later it snaps open again.

Half the time? Surely, this is hyperbole. This is a user error issue. I've never had mine snap back open again, but when I click it shut, I make sure it's clicked shut. It's a subtle experience, and one that, I suppose, some folks can think it's shut when it's not. It's not a design flaw (as far as I can tell), but rather sometimes the skin on your wrist can interfere with it closing all the way the first press. A very quick visual glance after clicking it shut will tell you if it is, indeed, closed securely. The few times I didn't actually close mine all the way, I could tell as soon as I pulled my finger away from the bracelet. Another press, *click*, and done. I've never had an issue.

I'm not interested in being told about this being a first gen product.

That's unfortunate, because it's entirely relevant.