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Gizmodo: negative review of Lion... thoughts?

I'd to know what machine he's using. On my Pro 13", it's world better just because of fullscreen apps and Mission Control.

Anyways, IMHO, it falls to this being the same Gizmoso that bought a stolen iPhone and got sued for it. Definitely still angry about it, and definitely still biased.

John Siricusas is the only review I believe though; he's not quite as simple-minded as Jesus is.
 
Here's the thing...

I have never used Spaces.

I use Max OS X pretty straightforwardly.

Based on that, I am absolutely loving Lion.

I find the gestures to be fun to use and I am
having absolutely no problems under the GM.

Apple Mail gets the overhaul it has needed forever.

For me, this is a huge step forward, but certainly,
for those that used Snow Leopard more extensively,
I can understand the heartaches.
 
The reviewer forgot to mention its only $29.99, don't expect your mind to be blown if the price of the OS is that cheap. I find it to be more of an upgrade, rather than a new OS.
 
It isn't even out yet. You can't judge an OS on developer previews.

That said, I personally dislike Lion. I won't say it's a bad OS, because I'm sure from a technical standpoint Apple have done awesome whizzy geeky things with it, but I hate how much they're dumbing it down and turning it into iOS.
 
I agree with this article. I have no idea what Apple are trying to do with Lion.

It's not that I want my OS to be more sophisticated......I need it to be. I don't need autosave and versioning, because I learned to save my work 30 years ago. I need to be able to manipulate my files and their locations in a transparent file system that doesn't assume it's all too difficult for me to manage.

I also loved spaces but I hate mission control. I don't need to learn a whole load of gestures nor to buy a "magic" trackpad to do things I do now in a different way. Keyboard shortcuts work well for me because, guess what, my computer has a keyboard.

And to those who are thinking "so don't buy it then"......what happens when Aperture, Logic, etc require Lion to run?
 
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Eidorian said:
What about having to endure every new release?
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I don't know what you're asking me.

Anyway, Gizmodo is just drawing on the negative connotation of "Vista" to write a flamebait article without having a valid comparison between the two. Vista was a $250 bomb with major compatibility issues; Lion is a $30 update to Snow Leopard that adds things like document auto-saving and runs previous apps just fine. Referencing Vista makes a bunch of implications that have no basis.

Apple will tout the inevitable "Most OS X sales to date" stat like they've done after every new version, and everyone will have already forgotten about this article. The timing is intentional, publishing it early in an attempt to kill prerelease hype and generate "Is Lion Apple's Vista?" forum discussions.
 
Eidorian said:
What about having to endure every new release?
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Yes, I know its sooooooo hard being a consumer who doesn't have to buy a thing.

I always hate when Apple pulls that magic killswitch on all outdated versions of OSX and puts a gun to everyone's head to buy the new one. I don't even think it's legal, someone should really get on this awful awful problem. :rolleyes:
 
xgman said:
I wouldn't call myself a fanboy, but I am an all Apple guy and will stay such for the foreseeable future. However, if I am being honest, I pretty much have to agree with just about every word of that article. I am not happy about that, but I can't deny it makes sense at least to me. I do get the feeling after using Lion for some months now that Apple is a bit lost. In between worlds of OSX and IOS, in a bad way. The good news is that most of these problems can be sorted out eventually, but still....... I fear that Lion has become Apple's Vista.
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I feel the same way. I love ios on the small screen but I fear for the loss of OSX. Dont force me in to an ios experience on the desktop.... I beg of you.
 
Lion is indeed underwhelming in its current form...in my opinion anyway. Not feeling one iota of excitement for it.
 
Its not the Lion sucks, its that without a touchscreen monitor then many of the new gesture metaphors and iOS paradigms don't translate to a fullsize cursor controlled computer.

I'm very curious to see how Lion gets reviewed by non-apple enthusiasts because it seems much of the change here was to create a transition product. While it may not make sense on todays computers, it seems there is a bigger picture and Apple is paving a path to their vision of touchscreen computers. Which is why I question the people who are so angry when someone wonders "why did Apple change this". A lot of stuff here doesn't make sense... yet.

I liken this to the FCP7/FCPX issues. In a generation or two it will probably all fall into place and we can say "oh... thats why they did that", but to pretend its all logical RIGHT NOW is silly because to todays computer users there are lots of things that deserve scrutiny.
 
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Well we've been saying what they write there all along, guess we weren't alone then. Maybe now that it is more "official" by a well read tech site stating the same concerns about this inconsistent and resource unfriendly release, apple will start to listen, or people will listen and not buy it. I fear not but ... they'll only heed their actions if it hurts their wallets.
 
NT1440 said:
Best OS I've used so far, I don't give a damn what the completely unprofessional people at Giz say honestly (you can tell when they have their panties in a bunch on a given day because their posts just turn into rants).

All I can say is Lion will be the most successful version of OSX thus far, regardless of whatever bitching the critics do.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.
 
I just put Lion on my 13 MBP today. I still need a little time to get used to things but I will say this:

It really annoys me that apple doesn't make ANY effort to provide consistency for its users. I understand that many people never took advantage of some of the awesome things in snow leopard like spaces and some of the better gestures (four-finger swipe to command tab anyone?) but if you were interested enough in your mac to take advantage of these features it feels like apple is punishing you for learning how to use your computer!

So now I'm supposed to figure out and adjust everything in my work flow to the still not satisfactory widows management that is Lion and then when OS 10.8 (11?) comes out I have to start from scratch all over again?!

Improvements to an OS are a good thing. And of course anything new takes time to learn but if apple could just provide some options particularly to the gestures which are my biggest problem with Lion personally, it would go a long way towards mitigating negative initial impressions.


On a more positive note I think the ability to resize windows from any corner or edge in Lion is absolutely fantastic. So glad apple finally pulled their head out of their *** on that one.
 
NT1440 said:
Yes, I know its sooooooo hard being a consumer who doesn't have to buy a thing.

I always hate when Apple pulls that magic killswitch on all outdated versions of OSX and puts a gun to everyone's head to buy the new one. I don't even think it's legal, someone should really get on this awful awful problem. :rolleyes:
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Everyone else ruins things for me. My inaction is not going to stop it.
 
Okay i don't want to rant but..

I personally don't mind it. Its that a big part of it your not adjusting to the new changes. A few are removed and a few are new. To keep this short. I'll just put this out there. Everything needs to take a step back or two before you get something good. Like the saying for every 2 steps i take, I take one back. Apple is trying to bring out new things to the market. The features you are used to are 2 generations old. Leopard and snow snow leopard.

Your afraid of change. That being said I can't agree with some features, such as mission control. I should have a more straight to the point review. In my opinion it gets about 3.5 - 4 /5.
 
Eidorian said:
Everyone else ruins things for me. My inaction is not going to stop it.
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So stay away from threads where people are actually enjoying their OS and you can be the grumpy gus you want be.

Just for the record, what exactly is forcing you to be an early adopter (as we all know each point upgrade after release will bring significant changes, as all versions of OSX do) of Lion? :confused:
 
Eidorian said:
I am starting to think that the masses began to hate Vista because we told them to hate it.
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I think that is true to some extent, but there were many things about Vista that exacerbated that.

My First Vista experience was poor and I generally know what I'm doing. My first install went horribly wrong and I was left without SATA drivers and the drive ran like molasses and blue screens. After that it was generally usable, but could I recommend it as an upgrade to folks who would not know how to recover from something like that. No.

I hope that my Lion experience is better than that.

I'm tempted to go out and pick up a new drive to stick in one of my Macs to try the GM out.

B
 
NT1440 said:
Just for the record, what exactly is forcing you to be an early adopter (as we all know each point upgrade after release will bring significant changes, as all versions of OSX do) of Lion? :confused:
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As I said before, everyone else is going to ruin it for me. It happened with Snow Leopard and it happened with Windows 7.

The world is a terrible place and some of us have to deal with it.


balamw said:
I think that is true to some extent, but there were many things about Vista that exacerbated that.

My First Vista experience was poor and I generally know what I'm doing. My first install went horribly wrong and I was left without SATA drivers and the drive ran like molasses and blue screens. After that it was generally usable, but could I recommend it as an upgrade to folks who would not know how to recover from something like that. No.

I hope that my Lion experience is better than that.

I'm tempted to go out and pick up a new drive to stick in one of my Macs to try the GM out.

B
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I recall actually liking Vista in the Beta/RC stages. Not so much once it was retail. Windows Media Center was the real shining star. Otherwise we all suffered the UAC and half-baked XP 2.0 organization/layout. Quartz Extreme could push miracles while anything under Vista on anything short of a dedicated video card was questionable. I remember Microsoft and Intel squabbling over the video hardware requirements.
 
Eidorian said:
As I said before, everyone else is going to ruin it for me. It happened with Snow Leopard and it happened with Windows 7.

The world is a terrible place and some of us have to deal with it.
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So this is all just an exercise in excessive sarcasm or what?

You seem to always complain here, surely you can come up with some specifics as to why you have to switch to Lion before any updates, or at least what you don't like about it?

Your above answer just seems like whining for the sake of whining? :confused:
 
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