I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Lion is a cheap upgrade that brings some features (not all of them are useful or necessary, but there are some important ones) and (in my opinion and experience with Lion) some speed enhancements (2010 MBP 13" 2.4 ghz intel core 2 duo)
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Gizmodo: negative review of Lion... thoughts?
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I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Lion is a cheap upgrade that brings some features (not all of them are useful or necessary, but there are some important ones) and (in my opinion and experience with Lion) some speed enhancements (2010 MBP 13" 2.4 ghz intel core 2 duo)
Hint: There are bugs in EVERY software you've ever used. Yes, everything. Yep, even *that* one you're thinking of.
I think the big deal is that the desktop UI (of all brands) DID need a makeover, but looking at a mobile OS for inspiration is the wrong direction.
I would agree with you only if the lion didn't get rid of some of the features. For example I loved the SL's expose and mission control is slowly starting to annoy me.
I really hope they fix some of lion's faults really soon, because it has potential, but it doesn't quite cut it for me yet.
Just my opinion.
But bugs are only given a free pass when it's on a Mac I guess.
Personally, I don't have as big a problem as some with Lion, but I definitely understand the disappointment. This whole "Back to the Mac" hype made it seem like Apple was going to refocus itself on improving the neglected desktop OS but it seems their intent is muddled in a tablet OS without the tablets touch interactivity.
Lion is a great competitor to Fischer Price.
The article in question makes some valid points, yet will be bashed unmercifully because no one speaks negative of Apple without being subject to vicious attacks. It's what fanbois do.
Fortunately for Apple, reality is never a factor, so Lion will be declared the saviour of the entire tech sector worldwide.
Your argument is really narrow-minded and ignorant.
All software has its pros and cons, and people who like and dislike it. Personally, I am a hardcore Apple fan with 2 personal Macs and an iPhone. For everyday purposes, I think OS X (yes, I like Lion too) is great. Lion absolutely has its flaws, but so did Snow Leopard, so did Leopard, and so on. iOS also has plenty of flaws. And guess what, for many tasks, I do use Windows 7. Windows 7 is a great operating system, with some very powerful features. But it also has its weaknesses. As for primarily using Mac, that is just my preference, and not because I am blindly following the cult. The day that Mac ceases to be usable, I will jump ship without a second thought.
These knob-ends don't even know how to use Lion properly but they are criticising it.
"Take this example: when you are in a full screen app, there's no easy way to open a new app. You either have to swipe your way back to a Desktop space and launch your app from the Dock or the Finder or Launchpad"
When in fullscreen apps you can access the dock directly from the full screen app, you just have to move the curser down a little bit more then usual!!! I would not take this review seriously as it is clear they have no idea lol.
"Take this example: when you are in a full screen app, there's no easy way to open a new app. You either have to swipe your way back to a Desktop space and launch your app from the Dock or the Finder or Launchpad"
When in fullscreen apps you can access the dock directly from the full screen app, you just have to move the curser down a little bit more then usual!!! I would not take this review seriously as it is clear they have no idea lol.
Been MBP user for 3 years and I love OS X. Bought MBP exclusively because of the OS X and that was the main reason, IMO that's the best GUI experience out there.
IMO trying to bolt a touchscreen OS experience/features to a heavy keyboard and mouse device is just wrong. People buy Mac Pro, iMac, MBP, MBA for a reason and that reason is because they use keyboard and mouse a lot and that is best for them.
Launchpad and Mission Control might be nice for more casual users or those that are first time Mac users, but for the power user that's not the case.
Spaces was simple, elegant and light, it does have it's cons but otherwise it's very nice.
If Apple makes it possible to switch off i.e. Launchpad and MC in favor of the old spaces/expose/dashboard that will be spot on and will please a lot of the power users that see this as just iOS Lion.
Rest of the features in Lion are really nice, full screen, FileVault2, no scroll bars, auto-save and resume ( if you can switch them off ).
I have the feeling apple is trying to remove the flexibility from OS X and i'm not a fan of that. If they try to push the iOS stuff down the throat of the power user, that will be huge mistake.
Just my 2 euro cents.
IMO trying to bolt a touchscreen OS experience/features to a heavy keyboard and mouse device is just wrong. People buy Mac Pro, iMac, MBP, MBA for a reason and that reason is because they use keyboard and mouse a lot and that is best for them.
Launchpad and Mission Control might be nice for more casual users or those that are first time Mac users, but for the power user that's not the case.
Spaces was simple, elegant and light, it does have it's cons but otherwise it's very nice.
If Apple makes it possible to switch off i.e. Launchpad and MC in favor of the old spaces/expose/dashboard that will be spot on and will please a lot of the power users that see this as just iOS Lion.
Rest of the features in Lion are really nice, full screen, FileVault2, no scroll bars, auto-save and resume ( if you can switch them off ).
I have the feeling apple is trying to remove the flexibility from OS X and i'm not a fan of that. If they try to push the iOS stuff down the throat of the power user, that will be huge mistake.
Just my 2 euro cents.
I agree with a lot of what they said, though I don't think they hit on the point that lion make a lot more sense on a laptop than it does a desktop.
For example, fullscreen apps make a lot of sense when you only have an a 11 or 13 inch screen. They don't make much sense when you've got 27. Gestures are nice, but I'm not convinced that they are faster than using a mouse and using a trackpad on a desktop just seems like a step back because its a less accurate pointing device. Also, dual screen support is horrible. Fullscreen apps simply throw up the gray pattern on the second screen and render it unless... Hello? maybe make a way to put up a second full screen app, or maybe show the widgets, perhaps mission control?
It the end, it make sense for Apple to make the changes that they did though, because they probably sell 10x as many laptops as they do desktops.
For example, fullscreen apps make a lot of sense when you only have an a 11 or 13 inch screen. They don't make much sense when you've got 27. Gestures are nice, but I'm not convinced that they are faster than using a mouse and using a trackpad on a desktop just seems like a step back because its a less accurate pointing device. Also, dual screen support is horrible. Fullscreen apps simply throw up the gray pattern on the second screen and render it unless... Hello? maybe make a way to put up a second full screen app, or maybe show the widgets, perhaps mission control?
It the end, it make sense for Apple to make the changes that they did though, because they probably sell 10x as many laptops as they do desktops.
Totally. What I do is just gesture up mission control and click the icon on the dock or gesture up launchpad and launch an app. I mean, how hard is that? with old fullscreen enabled apps you had to press escape, then do what you wanted, then bring it back to full screen.
While Gizmodo makes some valid points, I think the whole idea of the article was to criticize, which you can smell even without reading it. If you look at it, there are three paragraphs of the good things about Lion where they have slammed in multiple things without explaining them much, unlike what they did about the cons.
Criticizing Apple is okay but criticizing for the sake of criticizing isn't good journalism IMO. In my book Gizmodo has always been a trash-site and after the iPhone chaos, they went very anti-Apple from what I remember.
Criticizing Apple is okay but criticizing for the sake of criticizing isn't good journalism IMO. In my book Gizmodo has always been a trash-site and after the iPhone chaos, they went very anti-Apple from what I remember.
I personally ignore anything Gizmodo posts about Apple products cos they're butt hurt over the whole iPhone 4 thing.
I think Snow Leopard is great, but I think Lion is amazing. It's fantastic, a large step in the right direction. It's improved greatly overall, it's cleaner, smaller (GB), and more unified with iOS. Apps like Mission Control, Launchpad, etc., are all great and very well implemented imo.
I'm just waiting to get my hands on it!
I'm just waiting to get my hands on it!
I absolutely disagree with that review. Its even hard to call it a review, basically, the guy just criticizes two features: mission control and design of iCal/Address Book and uses that critique as justification for his point.
While I agree that Address Book looks a bit silly (iCal is actually much nicer, and has a much more functional UI than one in SL), I strongly disagree about mission control. It does have it shortcomings (for instance, no display of minimized windows), but its MUCH better then Expose if you have many windows to deal with. I usually have several dozens of windows open, Expose does not help here a bit, while mission control actually gives a very nice per-app grouping. What I'd like to see though, is ability to register an application to its own space, as SL does.
Anyhow, that review does not change anything. Lion will be a success. I am getting it the moment it goes live. There are so many new great features which would improve my daily life; already new Mail, iCal and Finder are enough reasons to upgrade. And bugs and inconsistencies - I am sure Apple will deal with them quickly, as they always have.
While I agree that Address Book looks a bit silly (iCal is actually much nicer, and has a much more functional UI than one in SL), I strongly disagree about mission control. It does have it shortcomings (for instance, no display of minimized windows), but its MUCH better then Expose if you have many windows to deal with. I usually have several dozens of windows open, Expose does not help here a bit, while mission control actually gives a very nice per-app grouping. What I'd like to see though, is ability to register an application to its own space, as SL does.
Anyhow, that review does not change anything. Lion will be a success. I am getting it the moment it goes live. There are so many new great features which would improve my daily life; already new Mail, iCal and Finder are enough reasons to upgrade. And bugs and inconsistencies - I am sure Apple will deal with them quickly, as they always have.
FTA:
I don't get how opening the app from the Finder involves so many fewer clicks.
Have a look at their three paragraphs headed 'The Right Stuff':
I don't get how opening the app from the Finder involves so many fewer clicks.
Have a look at their three paragraphs headed 'The Right Stuff':
- Notice how packed with features each throwaway sentence is.
- Realise how biased the article is.
- Cease feeding the trolls.
FTA:
I don't get how opening the app from the Finder involves so many fewer clicks.
Have a look at their three paragraphs headed 'The Right Stuff':
- Notice how packed with features each throwaway sentence is.
- Realise how biased the article is.
- Cease feeding the trolls.
Cmd+Space and then start typing the app's name. Much faster than anything else. Spotlight is the best way to start apps if you are a power user. Launchpad is for novice users. Even the Dock is faster in opening apps. It can't hold as many icons as Launchpad, but the most often used apps are on my dock and I don't need to go to Launchpad...
Well command-space + two/three letters of the apps name is *much* faster imho then four finger gesture + wait for launchpad to come stuttering in on the IGP + swipe swipe swipe + clickFTA:
I don't get how opening the app from the Finder involves so many fewer clicks.
Have a look at their three paragraphs headed 'The Right Stuff':
- Notice how packed with features each throwaway sentence is.
- Realise how biased the article is.
- Cease feeding the trolls.
Aren't those commenting that the review is biased because it's Gizmodo also biased?
Some points the author made really do make sense.
Some points the author made really do make sense.
What i am surpised by is the UI inconsistency with these core apps.
They made iCal look like a leather diary, like on iPad, and the same with Address Book.
Yet on both iPad and Lion, Mail looks like a real app.
How come that aint a big desk with envelopes, and when you write an email you write a letter, which gets put into an envelope when you send and flies off into a postbox?
I dont mind iCal as much as I hate Address Book like.
Strange how on the desktop they are iCal and Address Book but on iOS their counterparts are Calendar and Contacts.
Maybe by 10.8 they will align everything properly.
They made iCal look like a leather diary, like on iPad, and the same with Address Book.
Yet on both iPad and Lion, Mail looks like a real app.
How come that aint a big desk with envelopes, and when you write an email you write a letter, which gets put into an envelope when you send and flies off into a postbox?
I dont mind iCal as much as I hate Address Book like.
Strange how on the desktop they are iCal and Address Book but on iOS their counterparts are Calendar and Contacts.
Maybe by 10.8 they will align everything properly.
I only see a few minor things a few people are constantly complaining about:
- Mission control doesn't show minimized Windows
- you can't hold f to get ffffffff
- spaces is weird (according to some people)
- expose was better in SL (according to some people)
- ram usage
- bugs
3 of the above are totally personal and are not real problems.
2 might be batched soon
1 could be patched/changed in the future
Other than that I dont see why Lion would be bad at all. I find it more awesome than SL.
- Mission control doesn't show minimized Windows
- you can't hold f to get ffffffff
- spaces is weird (according to some people)
- expose was better in SL (according to some people)
- ram usage
- bugs
3 of the above are totally personal and are not real problems.
2 might be batched soon
1 could be patched/changed in the future
Other than that I dont see why Lion would be bad at all. I find it more awesome than SL.
In fact, some still prefers Exposé the Panther (10.3) way. Here's a lengthy thread on MacRumors about how to get the old Exposé back.
Since i entered the world of Apple Computers with SL i would have to try it myself. But from my point of view Lion's Mission control is very good.