Doesn’t matter to me. GM makes garbage vehicles and I’ve not bought one in decades. What’s more, with their track record, their infotainment implementation will be a dumpster fire and they will soon enough return to Apple Play and whatever it is that Google offers.
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Explain the differences and why it is better to you?
By not supporting CarPlay, GM knows how to shoot itself in foot. GM is dumbest auto manufacturer as it can be.
Wow that is an ugly dash.
Who cares if it has CarPlay. Everyone’s going to crash because of the car-width screen that will no doubt have constant terrible animations about something useless.
Who cares if it has CarPlay. Everyone’s going to crash because of the car-width screen that will no doubt have constant terrible animations about something useless.
Imagine spending 130 Stacks just for the bragging rights of driving a car without CarPlay. weird.
That’s great for you. For the rest of us, we still want our CarPlay. Even if the navigation on the car is great, it doesn’t mean that we don’t want to use other services. I’ve used Apple Music on Tesla. It’s broken as it constantly skips songs. There are other apps on CarPlay that will not be on AAOS. In particular, I’m always listening to podcasts. Those subscriptions are on my phone. There is no way that I’ll be able to get my podcast app with all of its subscriptions synced to the car’s system. Using bluetooth can do in a pinch but the interface is not as good and I see no reason to give it up. There are also lots of other personalizations on my phone that won’t carry over to the car. Again, GM is not giving users any benefit for pulling CarPlay. This is entirely for GM’s benefit in trying to claim more subscription revenue. Seems hostile to prospective customers.
They plan to switch to "what Google Offers." It will just be more of what Google offers than it was before.
Well, GM will not be a consideration in my future vehicular purchase!😱
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It all depends on what they offer vs what the US manufacturers offer. A $50k barebones US crossover with a $50/month subscription required for a few convenience features would make a $30k Chinese crossover loaded with free stuff an appealing option for many, especially for lease where you are not that worried about long term reliability. After all, remember what reputation Hyundai used to have in the 90s ? And look where they are now.
Also, Blazer sells relatively well and it’s being built in China. If GM can sell a China-built product in the US, it’s not a far step from a Chinese OEM to start selling their products. Especially if they start by marketing them under one of the known Western brands that they own or purchase.
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Yep, BMW people are dying with envy looking at Cadillac brand taking over the world.
Have you ever traveled to Europe ? Won’t see too many Caddies in affluent areas. Heck, even go to NYC, get in front of some law firm office, and count the European brands vs Caddie.
Here's the great paradox: Like so many GM owners and CarPlay users, I won't buy a new GM car that doesn't support CarPlay. I'm likely not alone in that. As such, GM won't add CarPlay support because the people that buy their cars will only be people who are OK owning a car without CarPlay support, so why would they demand it after the fact?
The only way GM gets the message is for people to stop buying GM cars. Then again, this Company has proven over and over that they don't seem to want to give customers what customers want. GM bankruptcy part 2 in 2030?
Here's the great
The only way GM gets the message is for people to stop buying GM cars. Then again, this Company has proven over and over that they don't seem to want to give customers what customers want. GM bankruptcy part 2 in 2030?
Here's the great
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Or I can just have everything on my phone in my car ... by plugging in ... or not.
In all seriousness, why manage 2 devices when I can manage one. Plus I've heard some pretty lackluster reviews of some of the apps built into the tesla. Sorry.
Because you wouldn’t be managing 2 devices? You’ll also be changing your phone more than your car… so you’ll be logging in to your phone before you need to repeat the process on a new car. Your phone gets to stay pocketed. Or set on the charger and ignored. And you then use the far better Tesla UI.
It’s not an either/or thing. If Tesla were a little less arrogant, they would let their customers integrate their number one device into the car for some personalization. You could use Tesla apps where they are more useful and CarPlay apps for other functions. It’s not a zero sum game.
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I’d love to take a poll of people here and ask them if they think Apple or Tesla are better and user interface design and software engineering. As for me, I prefer choice. Tesla doesn’t offer it, GM doesn’t offer it, and they’re both gonna get burned because of it.
Personally, for me it doesn't even matter whose UI is better. We have two vehicles in the family, mine is a truck, wife's is a roomy crossover. Depending on the task at hand, I will drive whichever one is more suitable for my plans that day. Or whichever is standing closer to the end of the driveway if I leave the house first. I also travel 2-3 times a month and get rentals. I want the same experience, the same voice commands, the same saved info (map pins, addresses, podcasts) in every car that I drive. Carplay works just fine for my needs, and if any car brand has a better interface, good for them... but if they want me to even consider buying their product, they must provide me with an option to use Carplay. And if I used Android, I'd expect Android Auto. I am far more attached to the customized ecosystem I built around my phone and share with my wife, than to any specific car brand.
GM nearly went out of business in 2009, it was the US government that bailed them out and fast tracked them through the bankruptcy to make sure they survive.
And they are no longer the biggest automaker in the world.
They are #6 by revenue (VW is #1), and #12 in market capitalization (Tesla is #1).
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Except Tesla aren’t getting burned and continue to sell every car they produce… they open new factories, and then sell through that increased capacity… they open in China and sell through all of those… it’s an important feature against the bad systems present from the dawn of modern smartphones through the 10s… it’s not an important feature when someone has come along and one-upped both projection systems with one that’s faster and not phone dependent. They were always nothing more than a band-aid over other manufacturers mediocre, stagnant, borderline unusable infotainment and navigation systems. And… if you really want them, you can use them - wirelessly. It’s just not official support. So…
For now … VW beat Tesla in Germany last quarter, Tesla keeps dropping prices to spur demand, more and more quality electric alternatives to Tesla are due in the next few years.
Tesla, undeniably is the leader in electric cars right now but as I said from the beginning, as competition increases and as more viable alternatives become available “little things” like steering wheel stalks, homelink standard, ventilated seats, and CarPlay will make the difference in sales numbers. They have already backtracked, thankfully, on the yoke and no manual control of windshield wipers. It’s only a matter of time before they backtrack on the others.
Unfortunately, I think stalks will be the last thing they add back as those are parts they don’t want to have to pay for and aren’t as easily added back as some other features.
What Tesla has done to date is awesome, but don’t underestimate Musk’s ability to tank a brand with stubborn hubris … cough Twitter.
Amen! Whatever the reason, people want it but Tesla, GM, and Rivian don’t offer it. That’s going to catch up with them.
I can just see it now: Customer: "This costs $130,000 but doesn't have CarPlay? Erm, no thank you."
Tesla may eventually sell every car they produce (like most other manufacturers) but it's not right away. Tesla has had several quarters where they produced more cars than they delivered. It is not unusual for Tesla to have thousands of new cars in inventory at stores and factory lots in the U.S. and around the world waiting for buyers. Right now, many of those inventory cars have thousands in extra discounts on top of the drastically reduced prices from earlier this year. They also have new car "demos" with even greater discounts.
Tesla has also yet again had to slash some prices in China; the recent cuts were likely largely due to a 31% sales drop there last month. This is part of the reason why Tesla's stock is down nearly 20% in the past 30 days.