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Goodbye, for now, dear iMac
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i dont know what you are doing to your equipment, but if they crash that much, its user error either in actual use or management.
Another component that everyone forgets when they do a mac vs PC build comparison is the price of software. When you get the mac you get the OS and a USEABLE suite of software. price out good software for a PC, not some freeware junk, but a GOOD photo management system with basic editing options as well as the OS and you need to add another $100-$300 depending on how you go.
Another component that everyone forgets when they do a mac vs PC build comparison is the price of software. When you get the mac you get the OS and a USEABLE suite of software. price out good software for a PC, not some freeware junk, but a GOOD photo management system with basic editing options as well as the OS and you need to add another $100-$300 depending on how you go.
A quick google shows one for under half that. Well under half if you don't want to match the resolution... Looks like someone is a bit behind on things...
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Not sure - the company I work for sorts out the IT on the iMac, and it happens to everyone. Here's an example with issues that have plagued that - you never had bluetooth just suddenly stop working on you, and show up as if it's not even on the machine? How does a user cause that? Because I've had it happen several times...
Although seriously, do you really still believe that OSX/apple hardware is crash proof?
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Freeware junk? There are lots of open source versions of software which are as good as their commercial counterparts...
My 2007 iMac still gets daily use for Photoshop, Illustrator, Coda, and some light Maya work, my 2009 13" Aluminum MacBook works great and will be even better once I drop an SSD in it, and the iPad we got earlier this year is solid.
Sounds like you just have really bad luck, or I've got great luck.
Dont be putting words in my mouth. I didnt say that macs were crash proof, but on any computer system, if there are a large number of crashes there is either a user or management issue. So if its not you, its your IT department. I dont know what sort of work you do, or what add on corporate software they have added, but a non isolated incident on a large number of machines in that environment is almost always not a hardware issue.
As far as good freeware, yes there is good freeware, there always has which is why I priced the add on so low. $100 barely covers a decent copy of windows so if you could replace the software suite that a mac comes with with freeware you still have to buy the OS AND hope that the drivers are up to snuff.
As far as good freeware, yes there is good freeware, there always has which is why I priced the add on so low. $100 barely covers a decent copy of windows so if you could replace the software suite that a mac comes with with freeware you still have to buy the OS AND hope that the drivers are up to snuff.
Oh, maybe these people all have the same user issue: http://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=uUyRULT2OejA0QXM54DQDw
Or maybe because I work in an enviroment with several hundred people all using iMacs, I get to see that they're not as reliable as the kool aid suggests...
btw - heard of linux?
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You're first generation iPad is running solid? That's interesting... These people must all have **** luck! http://www.google.co.uk/search?clie...oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=ik2RUOWLO-bH0QXnmIHADQ
Or is your iPad you got earlier this year, a newer one?
yes I have heard of Linux, but really, if I wanted to use an OS that runs like that, I would still be using windows 98.
I also use my iPad 1 every day. Again, I know what it is and isnt capable of. When I remember that it is a few generations out, I have no issues in its use. I watch movies, stream, browse the internet, read books and edit photos on it quite often without much issue at all. A crash once a month or so is about common for that piece of equipment.
I also use my iPad 1 every day. Again, I know what it is and isnt capable of. When I remember that it is a few generations out, I have no issues in its use. I watch movies, stream, browse the internet, read books and edit photos on it quite often without much issue at all. A crash once a month or so is about common for that piece of equipment.
Indeed. I personally feel Windows 7 is a better all round OS than OSX. I am running both of them on my iMac and Windows is more user flexible and it crashes less.
I bought an iMac because I wanted a powerful all in one and there was nothing available from anyone else that had a decent GPU. I play some games (Star Wars The Old Republic mainly at the moment) and nothing else on the market would allow me to do that.
I don't have any loyalty to Apple, Microsoft or anyone else. I buy computers to best meet my needs at the time.
yes, I have heard of it, used it, installed it and tossed it out with the trash. You assume so much with your comments but it appears you really know nothing.
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Chances are either you have bad RAM or you have installed an add-on that doesn't play well with the OS. Try restarting without those extras launching at startup and see if things aren't a whole lot more stable. Also check to see if there are new updates for those add-ons that perhaps address the very issue that's biting you.
Linux is pretty fantastic. I have a few distros setup as VMWare virtual machines. I like it is a lot. It is the most rock solid OS out there.
It has two downsides in my opinion :
(1) It isn't ready for non techy consumer user. Too many times do you need to hit the command line to install drivers and other things for Joe Bloggs
(2) Lack of software - Yes, there are lots of linux equivalents but it misses the industry standards. People want MS Office not Open Office. They want Photoshop not the GIMP.
yes, quite aware of that. But it doesnt have a user interface like unix, while just about every distro of Linux looks and acts and feels like windows 98.
Know for example, that Apple has a bad reputation for updating their graphics drivers? Know for example, that OSX isn't great at handling multi-monitor setups?
I have a multi-monitor set-up on my imac with no issues. What part of it do you think doesnt work?
Getting them to run tear-free when displaying fast moving images across monitors. millisecond synchronisation between them both, too.
Newer iPad, but my old iMac (with a new hard drive, because any machine needs a new hard drive after a few years) is going strong.
And sorry, but I hardly consider a Google search of an issue a valid source of data. Or if it is, it doesn't bode well for Dell users either.
I'd be curious to empirically compare Mac to PC repair numbers and see how they stack up. Oh wait, someone already did.
I'm not one to claim that every Mac is perfect or that PCs are evil, the truth (like with most things) is somewhere inbetween.
So in your opinion, the problem many of the iPad 1 users, simply doesn't exist, because a google search is not reliable?
Whereas a consumer study is?
Interesting btw, that only a 3% difference exists between HP & Apple (7 vs. 10). Also interesting that the average for all the PC stats quoted is 11.3
Considering there are a hell of a lot more PC users compared to Mac users, I don't think there's a hell of a lot of difference between 0.07 and 0.11, do you?
You just like to argue, don't you?
I'm not arguing about iPads, though I can't say I'm especially surprised that a first gen product has some issues 3 years later. My more recent model works fine, as I said.
My point with Google searches is that you can search for pretty much any problem (as I just did for Dell bluetooth issues without knowing a thing about how Dells handle bluetooth) and turn up lots of failure reports.
As per the difference between Mac and PC repairs, I'd say it's about 4% no matter how many users of either platform there are. That's not a massive number but it's still a significant enough percentage to be noted.
And again, as I said, I'm not sitting here claiming that Macs are perfect or that PCs are evil. Just stating that the numbers do support that there are somewhat fewer repairs on Apple machines vs other manufacturers.
I wouldn't recommend buying a consumer PC from Dell, HP or Gateway. (Along with a load of other manufacturers)
They all focus on using the cheapest possible components to maximise margins. Surprise surprise a £2000 iMac is going to be more reliable than a £350 Dell!
Business machines from Dell and HP tend to be more robust.
The thing is Apple don't sell cheap pieces of crap for £300 so it is never going to be a fair comparison.
Yep. That is pretty much my position as well.
I don't think think it's significant. The number if likely higher for PCs simply because more people own PCs so there will be a lot more room for noise. The consumer report is trying to compare apple with oranges, so you have to take into account when interpreting what they tell you. That's just how it is, kid.
Anyway, I agree - they' pretty much the same, and the numbers even go some way to show that.
Well, that report does show that an HP machine is (pretty much) 50% more likely to need a serious repair than an Apple machine.
I'm a fellow Apple/Mac fan but no point in spreading misinformation like this. It took me all of 30 seconds to find that you can get an Ivy Bridge i7 computer that turbos up to 3.9 GHz on Dell's web site for $750. That's significantly better than the i5s that are in the base model iMacs.
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All the 27" 2560x1440 monitors use the same LCD panel from LG. You can get these no problem for $600-$700. At that price range they may have inferior backlights and they will probably not have tempered glass covering them, so they won't look as sexy. On the other hand, a lot of people hate the reflections from the glass on the iMacs so maybe that's not such a big disadvantage. If you are willing to spend little more, I'm sure you can find a model with a top quality backlight and glass on the front.
It doesn't show anything, because the numbers of PC users vs Apple users are not equal, so a difference of a few percent doesn't mean anything because of the effect of noise.