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Goodbye my lovely new macbook....
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I'm afraid you are just hopeless. You just can't get it. I've thrown more computers away in one year than you've ever owned in your entire life and I find your persistence in nonsense just tiring. You are wrong. Flat out wrong.
Now where's that ignore list....
Edit:
I apologize to the other readers of this thread. I just read through a fairly large sampling of mosx's other posts and didn't realize. Sorry.
Arguing with "special needs" children isn't very nice.
Engadget:
"Now, the MacBooks are a slightly different story. At the outset, things seem to be the same. Same good, same bad -- but this display is different. We can't put our finger on it, but the panel just seems, for lack of a better word... crappier. The viewing angle is reduced considerably; looking even a little bit off to the side or up above can cause a nasty amount of polarization. The brightness levels also don't seem to be what they are on the Pro. Don't get us wrong, compared with the last generation MacBooks, these are stunning -- but compared to the Pros, they're just not as impressive. Again, the reflectivity is an issue here, though coupled with the diminished viewing angle and slightly dimmer backlighting, it left us wanting."
MacInTouch:
"The horizontal viewing angle is moderately wide by current standards, dimming faster off-angle than the MacBook Air does, but not as sharply as the old MacBook. There is a sweet spot from the center in which brightness is mostly even across the display, horizontally, but if you move from that spot, colors shift rapidly.
The vertical viewing angle remains extremely limited; brightness and color vary drastically with tiny angular changes. Also, like the earlier MacBook, the new display shows subtle color stippling, apparently an inherent limitation of the 6-bit color channels used by laptop LCDs.
Laptop displays have never been suitable for precise color work, but between the distracting edge reflections and vertical angular changes, the new MacBook is a step backwards in usability. Color and brightness are more consistent today than in the PowerBook G4 era, but the aluminum MacBook falls short of the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro in image quality, while the white MacBook is less brilliant but more usable! If your work requires accurate, consistent color reproduction, you'll definitely want a high-quality external display, connected via one of Apple's extra-cost mini-DisplayPort adapters."
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I'm afraid you are just hopeless. You just can't get it. I've thrown more computers away in one year than you've ever owned in your entire life and I find your persistence in nonsense just tiring. You are wrong. Flat out wrong.
Now where's that ignore list....
Edit:
I apologize to the other readers of this thread. I just read through a fairly large sampling of mosx's other posts and didn't realize. Sorry.
Cue song: "Another One Bites the Dust"
If someones wrong you can prove them wrong. Simple as that.
I am right so you couldn't prove me wrong. It also helps when you reply to things that people actually say as well
It'd be nice to see links to respectable sites that don't worship Apple to see the "professional level calibration tools" they supposedly used to get their results, and see them use those tools on a WIDE VARIETY of systems. Not just two fresh out of the box, but a wide variety of MacBooks and MacBook Pros. Since, again, one bad machine doesn't represent the entire line.
Sorry if you don't like hearing the truth about Apple. But someone has to say it.
Nice way to edit your post NC MacGuy.
Trying to make it look like you posted that stuff from Engadget and MacInTouch earlier? Not more than an hour after you made the first part of the post?
Again, one system DOES NOT represent the entire line.
The only time I notice the actual viewing angle affecting image quality is if I am BELOW the screen. Let's say I get under the desk or tilt the system back far. If I move to the left, no change. Move to the right, no change. Move up? No change until my eyes are even with the top and I can see the back of the unit.
The MacInTouch quote tries to say that the white MacBook is more useable? Are you kidding me?
I owned TWO white MacBooks with THREE across both. A defective replacement display (that wasn't needed in the first place) is the reason why Apple replaced my MacBook completely.
This screen is far better than any plastic Mac I have seen, used, or owned.
Oh lawdy!! Is thwat flames I c in 'tis thred??
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Burns burns!!!
Anyway, the two of you, stop it. Enough with the trolling.
Burns burns!!!
Anyway, the two of you, stop it. Enough with the trolling.
Well mosx, I'll mimic what you said, you said that the Alu MBP and MB are similar in screen quality? Well Your Wrong. Yeah, if you can find the exact sweet spot by tilting the MB's screen so it shows decent brightness and fair black level then you will get a slightly similar appearance. Just don't bob your head or change your seating position or you'll lose that sweetspot. There's not even a way to watch a DVD on the MB with the entire screen showing an even black level. As soon as a dark scene comes up you'll be tilting that screen back and forth till you give up. Half the screen (top) will show a decent black level and the other half (bottom) will appear completely washed out. There's no way it could ever be black from top to bottom.
The MB is a general purpose computer with a very low end screen. The Sony Vaio FW (similar to the Macbook) has the exact same horrible screen.
Mosx, take the blinders off and stop trying to defend a battle you've lost. Nobody agrees with you here.
The MB is a general purpose computer with a very low end screen. The Sony Vaio FW (similar to the Macbook) has the exact same horrible screen.
Mosx, take the blinders off and stop trying to defend a battle you've lost. Nobody agrees with you here.
Wait, while I do think the MB and MBA/MBP have different screens, I don't disagree with him. 'Similar' is a relative and subjective term, so technically, he cannot be proven wrong.
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Hey but at least he's not "buying into the hype and not afraid to speak the truth about Apple". The rest of us are a bunch of fools and liars!!! ShAmE!!!
Seriously, there's only so much we can debate certain issues. Most of them will reach a point when one must realize the reality of things...
oh BTW, i think Apple must've put some sort of unique prototype screen in my Macbook, because it's BETTER than the AIR and PRO... together!!
ahahaaa... craziness!!!First of all, the word you're looking for is "you're", not "your"
Second, if you want me to take you seriously, then you need to lose that whole "using Windows is like losing a friend" nonsense in your sig.
Third, what you're saying has not been my experience with the 3 MacBooks I have owned.
All 3 have had even black levels across the screen while watching DVDs. I've never had to worry about a "sweet spot" or being in a certain position as long as I wasn't below the system or above it so far I could see the back of the screen while it was open.
What you're saying is just flat out untrue. I've owned THREE MacBooks now with FOUR different screens across all three. I think I'm damn well qualified to say how good or bad the screen is considering the various screens I've used and the different manufacturers.
And honestly, I couldn't care less if you and NC MacGuy disagree with me. Obviously the masses don't disagree with me or else the MacBook would not be the most popular Mac "ever" as Steve Jobs said.
I still find one thing about this thread funny. The fact that people say the MacBook screen is bad so the solution is to go buy a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air.
If I spend $1400 on a computer, after taxes, and it has a bad screen.. and I exchange it for a new one and IT has a bad screen also, why in the world would a sensible person feel the only solution is to go and spend $1900 or over $2,000 on a more expensive computer? If I buy a MacBook and it has a bad screen and a replacement system does as well, then theres no way I'm going to give Apple more money to finally get a usable product. Thats telling Apple its okay to use low quality junk.
The sensible thing to do is to take it back, tell the store why you're returning it again, shoot an email off to sjobs@apple.com and go buy a PC. Especially when you consider a MacBook priced PC will get you a better display than the MBP, blu-ray, a more powerful GPU (or at least the same one with twice the RAM), faster CPU, more RAM (and the ability to hold more RAM, some of those $800 HPs can actually use 8GB of RAM!), bigger HDD, HDMI out, etc.
It makes absolutely no sense to say "well, this $1400 product is bad. Guess I have to buy the $2,000 one to get something decent" when there are other $1400 products that give you twice as much as that $2,000 product does.
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