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The most obvious answer is that it isn’t a global standard; look at the replies in this thread.

This was around the time Google came up with their version of RCS.
RCS was not the proposed standard at the time, just one of the recommendations.
If I remember correctly, one of the proposals was Android iMessage and Apple said no.
 
Just to help clarify who supports RCS and who does not.

This is a list as of 2021.

2022 news on this:
 
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It’s an issue with the rcs spec. Rcs spec should allow for clients that aren’t rcs compatible. It’s a google issue.

That makes little sense.
That functionality would need to be available at the recipient spot, not the send. Unless there was a way to identify at time of send what software/OS the recipient was using.
 
Actually no.
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Not sure how the iPhones are using RCS when it's not implemented for them. Maybe through a second app, not sure, but I'd think the carrier would still need to implement it for the device for it to work since it's a messaging service.

EDIT: OIC. You have to use Google's RCS shell, ie put another G-app on your device that just happens to have access to all your contacts and any text information that may be sensitive that you're sending, thinking it's secure. Nah.
 
That makes little sense.
That functionality would need to be available at the recipient spot, not the send. Unless there was a way to identify at time of send what software/OS the recipient was using.
It makes all the sense. This shows rcs has no support from the carriers. Rcs should drop down to sms as the common protocol.
 
Not sure how the iPhones are using RCS when it's not implemented for them. Maybe through a second app, not sure, but I'd think the carrier would still need to implement it for the device for it to work since it's a messaging service.

EDIT: OIC. You have to use Google's RCS shell, ie put another G-app on your device that just happens to have access to all your contacts and any text information that may be sensitive that you're sending, thinking it's secure. Nah.

What?
Those are the kids devices and none of them are less than 6 months old. Was answering that asked question.
RCS works on the Android devices and if an RCS message is sent to the any of the iPhones, the message never arrives in any form.
 
It makes all the sense. This shows rcs has no support from the carriers. Rcs should drop down to sms as the common protocol.

Not.
If Apple decided to disable iMessage from handling SMS/MMS that is not an issue with SMS/MMS but rather on the recipient platform - iMessage. There is nothing you could do on the SMS/MMS side to make iMessage handle it.
 
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It makes all the sense. This shows rcs has no support from the carriers. Rcs should drop down to sms as the common protocol.
Why though? Because Google wants it? Where is the incentive to carriers for the engineering lift to make RCS a common protocol? And which flavor of RCS? Google themselves haven’t committed to a final version as they’re actively tweaking it and the API’s.

So why should the carriers adopt a work in progress when a change from Google could render their work nonfunctional?
 
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Those are the kids devices and none of them are less than 6 months old. Was answering that asked question.
RCS works on the Android devices and if an RCS message is sent to the any of the iPhones, the message never arrives in any form.
Oh I assumed you meant the iPhones were using Google Messages and receiving RCS comms as well. I think they would if they could use Google Messages, unsure on that part, but GMess apparently works without the carrier implementing RCS. Probably because it uses Google's RCS shell.
 
Not.
If Apple decided to disable iMessage from handling SMS/MMS that is not an issue with SMS/MMS but rather on the recipient platform - iMessage. There is nothing you could do on the SMS/MMS side to make iMessage handle it.
And conversely, even if Apple enables RCS, it probably won't work with Google's RCS shell and we're back to square one.
 
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RCS doesn't convert iMessage. When you send a message to an Android user now, your iPhone sends an SMS message, which is NOT secure at all. It doesn't send an iMessage. So, instead, the iPhone could send an RCS message (which IS secure) to the Android phone.
RCS is not secure it has no encryption by default and if the carrier does not support it or its not enabled on the phone it goes no where.
 
For better messaging between apple and non-apple users. Whether Apple and its blind defenders like it or not there will always be non-Apple users out there. Apple forcing its customers to use of something as obsolete as sms to message non-apple users is outright abusive and only driven by greed, since their only purpose for limiting imessage and not upgrading from sms to rcs is to sell more iphones.

Nothing makes Apple’s purposes clearer that Tim’s reply to a reporter’s complaint about the lack of RCS not letting him send hq pictures and videos to his non-apple mom: “just buy your mom an iphone” he said.
apples not forcing anything some people are forcing themselves to not use any of the multitude of existing apps, thats on them not on anyone else.
 
Not.
If Apple decided to disable iMessage from handling SMS/MMS that is not an issue with SMS/MMS but rather on the recipient platform - iMessage. There is nothing you could do on the SMS/MMS side to make iMessage handle it.
I guess we could go back and forth on this, but yeah. Rcs should have a fallback.
 
The EU seems keen to force Apple do what Apple doesn't want to. Maybe they could vote to force Apple to use secure RCS?
RCS is not supported by the majority of carriers around the world, also its not secure
 
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Why though? Because Google wants it? Where is the incentive to carriers for the engineering lift to make RCS a common protocol? And which flavor of RCS? Google themselves haven’t committed to a final version as they’re actively tweaking it and the API’s.

So why should the carriers adopt a work in progress when a change from Google could render their work nonfunctional?
I dont disagree. Google is trying to be relevant in the intensely competitive messaging front.
 
Googles proprietary messaging efforts have nothing to do with it. RCS is the industry standard protocol that has replaced the 30 year old SMS/MMS default that Apple continues to cling to on iPhones. Jealousy is another straw man argument, Android has always had iMessage like equivalent messaging alternatives that are so popular in fact that even iPhone users choose them over iMessage outside of NA.

Google is simply saying that the industry has moved on from archaic SMS and in doing so the messaging divide in terms of security and features is no longer necessary. Heck, even all those iPhone users in Europe who prefer WhatsApp, Telegram ect could go back to using iMessage if only the iPhone used RCS like everyone else.
the industry has definitely not adopted rcs lol
 
It's definitely a US thing, probably 9/10 of my friends have iPhones and use iMessage. I have a Dutch buddy, he had to find his iMessage app buried deep in a folder. They just don't use it.
their is no iMessage app its just built into the standard 'Messages' app
 
I dont disagree. Google is trying to be relevant in the intensely competitive messaging front.
Which doesn’t make any sense unless they have a means to monetize it. Which makes me really question what is the end goal here? Trying to keep people in their messaging apps (which again, how does that generate them money)?

Given their partnerships with governments I really wonder why they’re offering to host the E2EE encryption on their servers as well.

Apple, like any other large tech company, has shady practices. But their business model is still very clearly based on selling hardware (services are climbing but it doesn’t negate this yet). Most of Tech is data mining behind the scenes of otherwise “free” products.
 
The sad fact is if you got all the carriers and tech corps together they would never come up with an evolved replacement for SMS/MMS.
RCS is far better than SMS/MMS and it has been pretty much adopted as the new standard globally, well except for Apple.
lol that 'globally' has a very small niche, the majority of carriers around the world do not support rcs
 
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