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Google Again Surpasses Apple as Most Valuable Company in the World

geoff5093 said:
Start innovating again Apple, and maybe customers will continue to buy your products.
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Wait, aren't they innovating? It takes a lot of skills and mind-boggling brain power to come up with the idea to remove the headphone jack, thin the device down and use the lightening port instead. And on top of that, creating an adapter to make the custom headphones compatible with any other Apple Device that's probably only $39, a generous move by Apple who's going to be taking a $60 loss for the originally priced at $99 adapter. This requires a vision.
 
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Alenore said:
Oh please. Should I find you the dozens videos they've done about how nicely engineered their phone are ?
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You think you'd be showing me videos I've never seen before, about 30 times each? I know what engineering is, what with being an engineer and all, and you're comparing a nonsense software idea with ACTUAL ENGINEERING.
 
What Apple needs to do for the iPhone 7 is drop the price for each model by $100. it's way too expensive especially with the SE pricing. Start with 32 GB for the base and instead of charging $100 for extra storage they should charge $50. My in laws need a new iPhone, their iPhone 4 is falling apart but they can't justifed dropping $650 dollars for a phone with 16 GB only
 
uid15 said:
You think you'd be showing me videos I've never seen before, about 30 times each? I know what engineering is, what with being an engineer and all, and you're comparing a nonsense software idea with ACTUAL ENGINEERING.
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You're not the one to decide what is actually really interesing or not. Design, software (engineering, oh wait!) and things like that are much more interesting to many people than how they managed to do chamfered edges.
 
Attirex said:
Mark my words: Apple will be out of business in less than two years.
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Ill mark that on my calendar... and when they don't... We at Macrumors with throw you in a pit with really horny rapist as your punishment
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deany said:
wow this forum isn't as friendly as it used to be, the times they are a changin'
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Im new here, what do you mean by that?
 
JackieInCo said:
By the way, everything you do on the net is being collected as well. Even Macrumors server collects data such as your location, time of day, computer or phone used and how long you visit and many other things, what sites you came from before here and where you went after visiting here. You can't escape it.
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But you can befuddle it to the point where that data is useless to them. Connect through a VPN, block trackers and ads, and kill cookies. Done.
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inkswamp said:
Apple's stock value often tumbles even after Apple reports good sales. I wouldn't defend the thinking there too vigorously. It often doesn't make much sense.
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It makes perfect sense when you consider that old adage, Buy on rumor, sell on news.
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dmylrea said:
You forgot the biggest feature of the iCar...ONE PORT for charging, music, video and connection to the world. One function at a time...you choose. :)
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More importantly, the car will be so thin that it will fit in a manila envelope.
 
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swester said:
See: sunk cost fallacy.

It's tough to imagine a market in which Apple could really be a substantial leader, considering they're already hit critical mass on computers, their bread-and-butter. Anything else they try to get into (cars, original programming, etc) will be at best an afterthought, chasing after the companies already far ahead of them in development.

It's entirely possible that their best days are behind them. That doesn't mean they won't continue to be an outstanding company with outrageous profits; but the growth period may indeed be over.
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As for cars... I don't agree. I think we're heading into a new world of automobiles in the next 10 years. Software is going to play a significant roll in the new vehicles and Apple is one of the best at software. Way better than GM, Ford, Mercedes, BMW... any of the traditional auto makers. So, it's possible a new generation of auto makers like Tesla will take a leadership position in 10 years. This wave is just starting and Apple, Google, and others have a shot to be in the mix.

BTW... I think Apple's growth will come from the eco-system. If Apple can perfect the eco system between your smart phone, home, TV, computer, health, and cars, then they may have a huge advantage in extending their profits.
 
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It's always big news when Google surpasses Apple in market cap. Last time it lasted a day. This time it lasted 3 trading days, of course that is not news. Now Warren Buffet has decided to make a billion dollar investment in Apple maybe some others will see the value side of owning Apple at a 10 P/E ratio. Buffet buys stocks for the long term, and I wouldn't be against him being right on Apple when we look down the road 3-5 years.
 
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tahoebum said:
It's always big news when Google surpasses Apple in market cap. Last time it lasted a day. This time it lasted 2 trading days, of course that is not news. Now Warren Buffet has decided to make a billion dollar investment in Apple maybe some others will see the value side of owning Apple at a 10 P/E ratio.
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and it's always big new when apple does 1 tiny thing. case and point. when more places take applepay. her comes the headlines bla,bla,bla xyz now takes applepay. wow big deal you never here anything from samsung about samsungPay. because it just works no need to know when it will work at your store front. because samsungpay just works.
 
mi7chy said:
Although it's used for intelligent correlation for Google Now predictive notification it can never be as bad as Apple's insecurity by leaking private pictures of people's orifices for everyone to see on the internet.
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You honestly think Apple leaked that and that maybe those "celebrities'" passwords just weren't easy to guess along with their iCloud emails?
Guess you've never worked in customer-facing consumer tech support then. I have. The passwords people use are quite ridiculously easy. I've seen some.
 
geoff5093 said:
What's funny, is that is always what iPhone fanatics say. I recall lots of people saying the exact same thing you are saying now, such as:

"Who needs LTE in a phone, 3G is plenty fast enough"
"No one would want a phone bigger than 4", large screen phones are stupid"
"Who would want to multitask on a phone, it would kill the battery life"
"Having split screen on a phone is pointless"
"Why would want to pay for things with their phone? Mobile payments are useless"
"No one needs greater than 720p resolution"
"Smartwatches are a useless gimmick"

Face it. All of the features Apple has come out with since the creation of the iPhone and App Store, Android had previously and fanboys like you always said it was stupid until Apple came out with it years later.
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"Android phones use cheap plastic exteriors"...
The iPhone 5C uses plastic, but hey... it's "unapologetically plastic", so that makes it fine.
I'm also amused how many of the folks who mind having a plastic casing don't like the feel of plastic, but ended up putting their iPhones in protective cases. In this case, you're touching the case, NOT the phone.
 
ackmondual said:
"Android phones use cheap plastic exteriors"...
The iPhone 5C uses plastic, but hey... it's "unapologetically plastic", so that makes it fine.
I'm also amused how many of the folks who mind having a plastic casing don't like the feel of plastic, but ended up putting their iPhones in protective cases. In this case, you're touching the case, NOT the phone.
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At the end of the day Android phones use Android.... which is the reason I'll never buy one. Using an operating system from a company that is built purely on data mining isn't what I'd call a wise move. No thanks. Remember when Apple and Google were called in front of congress over their location tracking? Apple showed they were doing it temporarily for diagnostic purposes. And that users were given anonymous ID's for tracking purposes. What did Google say when they got in front of congress? (paraphrased) "It's in the contract which people agree to when using our services." No thanks. I'll pass.
 
DesterWallaboo said:
At the end of the day Android phones use Android.... which is the reason I'll never buy one. Using an operating system from a company that is built purely on data mining isn't what I'd call a wise move. No thanks. Remember when Apple and Google were called in front of congress over their location tracking? Apple showed they were doing it temporarily for diagnostic purposes. And that users were given anonymous ID's for tracking purposes. What did Google say when they got in front of congress? (paraphrased) "It's in the contract which people agree to when using our services." No thanks. I'll pass.
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So you are saying you never go on youtube either, I call BS!!
 
DesterWallaboo said:
At the end of the day Android phones use Android.... which is the reason I'll never buy one. Using an operating system from a company that is built purely on data mining isn't what I'd call a wise move. No thanks. Remember when Apple and Google were called in front of congress over their location tracking? Apple showed they were doing it temporarily for diagnostic purposes. And that users were given anonymous ID's for tracking purposes. What did Google say when they got in front of congress? (paraphrased) "It's in the contract which people agree to when using our services." No thanks. I'll pass.
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Some folks have said Apple is becoming more and more like the Big Brother they mocked in their 1984 TV ad, with one Mac user saying they've always been like that... they just do a good job of hiding it.
 
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admob71 said:
Luxury items? Mobile phones a luxury items.? Lol best comment I've read all day..
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Ahm Apple phones are definitely luxury items. Unless you're trying to say it is absolutely necessary to have an iPhone or else you won't be able to survive.
 
Luscious said:
I'm amazed that anybody thought Apple's revenues would continue to grow year over year at the rate they had been. Talk about unsustainable! It's not like they are losing money, their rate of growth is declining. Sooner or later growth in the smart phone market was bound to slow down. Particularly in wealthier nations where the average price consumers pay per device is higher. Each upgrade seems to have fewer and fewer "must have" features. The last time I bought new iPhone models in back to back years was when the 5S was released following the 5. Touch ID was the last "must have" killer feature that made it instantly worth it. At the time I knew I should have paid the extra money for 64 GB of storage. Had I done so I'd still be on the 5S today. Instead I went with the 6S when it was released primarily for the extra storage. I can't think of anything in the 7 or 7S they might be able to add in that will get me to upgrade so soon and had I been smart enough to get the 64 GB 5S I'd likely have skipped the 6th gen and maybe even the 7th as well. Particularly now that my carrier no longer subsidizes the cost of an upgrade. I'm going to stick with the 6S for as long as I possibly can. The cost of upgrading is to high considering what you get in return for it these days.
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Wait.. aren't the details of the Iph7 still unknown at this point? In other words, aren't we in the "crest of rumor wave" phase where all of the online tech journals (and then some) speculate that the next Iph will come in some color, will include sapphire coating, stuff gained from an acquired company/asset... in other words, are any of it true? If not, I'd say don't count your chickens till the eggs hatch.

However, given the Iph6s/p.. it seems like it may not be THAAT much. 3D Touch is nice, but much like Apple Pay, not a whole lot of takers for now since devs know there aren't too many people on Iph with that feature. (There's only so much they can do with the Iph4SE without hurting their profits, but it still doesn't help that where will be new Iph without this tech).



As for Apple's financial situation, they seem to have enough money in store that they could go through such "lowered expectation" sales for a few more cycles before being in trouble, although yeah, there's only so much you can weather. Microsoft seems to have gotten there.
 
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