KEYWORD: BRIEFLY
The "news" on this forum is laughable.
As is people getting worked into a frenzy over the value of 2 corporations.
KEYWORD: BRIEFLY
The "news" on this forum is laughable.
I suggested no such thing! Don't put words into my mouth!so apple has never innovated to this day?
Anywhere Apple Pay works, so does Android Pay. Now if it's not available in your country that's different. The original Samsung Note was innovative since it allowed people to use a Wacom stylus and be more productive.Ironically, in UK is only iPhones/Apple watches that do offer NFC payments.
And seriously, you call large screens innovation?
Anywhere Apple Pay works, so does Android Pay.
Read the rest of my post... I said unless it is unavailable in your country. Android Pay uses the same technology and can be used, if allowed, anywhere Apple Pay isNot correct. Android Pay currently only available in US. Apple Pay at least on 7 countries.
NFC payments, large screen smartphones, 2k resolution, virtual reality with smartphones, fast wireless charging, USB quick charging, notification pulldown, multitasking, I can go on. I'm not saying Android invented all these features, but no other smartphone company has implemented them yet
What have iPhones done to "innovate" besides the very first iPhone?That's combined innovation for a couple of years.
iPhones have innovated much more.
Who says this? Never heard that phrase in my life
Yeah, that's all true. Wall Street values companies based on what they expect them to do in the future, not what they're doing today so what you're saying makes sense for the most part. What you're leaving out, however, are the oddball situations where Wall Street values companies inordinately high compared to their profit. The best example to cite is Amazon, but there are others.
And just because Apple missed their projections and their sales fell for one quarter does not make the responses on Wall Street suddenly look logical. There has always been a bit of a disconnect there. For example, Apple's stock value often tumbles even after Apple reports good sales. I wouldn't defend the thinking there too vigorously. It often doesn't make much sense.
I don't doubt this, Google has all our personal data, hobbies and internet habits. That has value.
By the way, everything you do on the net is being collected as well. Even Macrumors server collects data such as your location, time of day, computer or phone used and how long you visit and many other things, what sites you came from before here and where you went after visiting here. You can't escape it.They don't have mine. I cut Google out of my life ages ago when Eric Schmidt admitted publicly that they were mainly in business to gather personal info. Don't need that.
This is not AOL buddyMark my words: Apple will be out of business in less than two years.
As is people getting worked into a frenzy over the value of 2 corporations.
They don't have mine. I cut Google out of my life ages ago when Eric Schmidt admitted publicly that they were mainly in business to gather personal info. Don't need that.
Wow, people really don't get it. The only reason Google is more valuable than Apple right now is that people believe Google will grow three times faster than Apple.
Apple's P/E Ratio is currently around 10, while Google's P/E is around 29. If Google was selling at the same P/E as Apple, it would be selling for around $245/share (instead of $713.31) and it's "value" (market capitalization) would be around $168.2 billion - about the amount of cash and marketable securities Apple has on hand right now (after subtracting debt). If Apple was selling at Google's P/E, it'd be trading at around $261/share (instead of $90.34).
It's all investor sentiment - optimism/pessimism about a future that has yet to happen. It has nothing to do with the current financial position of either company.
Google's 2015 Net Profit Margin 21.8% Apple's 22.85% (both quite healthy)
Google's 2015 Net Profit $16.348 billion Apple's $53,394 billion (no contest - Apple's a much bigger company)
So, the market assumes Apple's falling off a cliff tomorrow, and Google's on a rocket to Mars. Big deal. Call me when either scenario comes true.
No way the company is losing 25% of its value. It's sitting on a mountain of cash. They can suck for years and be fine.Wow, you must be rich being able to predict the market like that? Awesome.
Personally, I'm definitely no "Apple is always right" fanboy. I can certainly be down on them when I judge them through my own "think different" consumer lens and they are doing things that seem very un-Apple-like to me. But they are great and I think we ALL know they can do better than what we've seen from them for a while. We expect dazzling wow from Apple. When we don't get it, we grumble. When we don't get it for a long time, we grumble louder. But we're still here... and still expecting dazzling wow to come. Who else is going to deliver it?
No, the market feels that Apple has peaked, as the iPhone has peaked. That steady upward gradient of sales has peaked. From here, lets say Apples sales are steady every year,not up, not down, but steady. Apples profits are steady and reliable. The stock price will settle as well. The issue is the premium placed on a growing future is being removed, as the iPhone which has now baulked as a must get every year or two years is their egg in one basket. They cannot turn round and change that, as part of it is the market, phones are mature, ubiquitous. They cannot turn to the Mac, iPad, Watch to rejuvenate sales. So you have a large company making large profits that are 1000% reliable to occur. Its like a bank deposit, the interest is known, its predictable.
I cannot really see this changing, but OTOH, as a supplier and profit maker they are 1000% stable and rock solid, its just that the promise of growth is very minimal.
You realize if you replace your complaints about Material design with "Aluminium unibody", you get Apple right ?Nope, and nor can Google. They come up with clever names like "material design" and "project butter" (like what the...?!) and blow their own trumpet about how they have floating cards and drop shadows, and all that UTTER BOLLOCKS - and Apple have hierarchical, layered design too, but aren't so pretentious to have sat and made up a NAME for it, accompanying it with some long winded nonsense video showing them cutting out bits of card and casting lights upon them, and noting how light behaves... WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THAT UTTER BOLLOCKS? It's all a distraction technique to avoid talking about their BOLLOCKS software and unscrupulous lack of ethics.
If you are bored out of your tiny mind enough to want to read and watch some more Google "material design" bollocks, please click below, where a pretentious twerp team has been put together to collate this BOLLOCKS for your amusement:
https://www.google.com/design/spec/motion/material-motion.html
Instead of studying bits of card, and making VR goggles OUT of card, how about addressing your use of Java as a phone OS, and taking control of handset fragmentation?
BAW-LOCKS!
PS: Talking of pretentious piffle, "Don't be evil"? How about "Don't be full of complete bollocks"?
You realize if you replace your complaints about Material design with "Aluminium unibody", you get Apple right ?
Oh please. Should I find you the dozens videos they've done about how nicely engineered their phone are ?FAR from the same thing AT ALL, and very well you know that.