I have to agree with this on the watch front. I own the watch and while it is nice, there is NO way I will be spending another $400 on one. I was a sucker the first time around because I really thought it could be more than just a glorified notification and control center (for some things). I love those features, but Apple is insane if they believe the $400 price point is good.
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I have to agree with this on the watch front. I own the watch and while it is nice, there is NO way I will be spending another $400 on one. I was a sucker the first time around because I really thought it could be more than just a glorified notification and control center (for some things). I love those features, but Apple is insane if they believe the $400 price point is good.
I agree.
Besides, the iPhone itselve has been copied by many and now, almost 10 years later, all these companies whom are producing high-end smartphone are making very good machines. Even the iPhone itself wasn't a brilliant new kind of technology, it was the bringing together and the combination of already existing pieces of technology that was brilliant. Obviously, that period is behind us since more companies making great highend smartphones.
I don't see a reason why Apple should come up with brilliant ideas each single year, more importantly would be to keep producing good quality products together with a very solid working ecosystem and with some new products from time to time.
My only criticism towards Apple is that the company lacks in bringing out new MacPro's with a combination of new state of the art technology and existing ones where many professionals in the field are still depending on. Like a solid case with thunderbolt AND PCI slots to give an example. But time will tell, if Apple comes up with a very good new MacPro this year then I'm sold. If not, tthen I'll probably bye a pc. not because I don't like Apple but simply because I need a computer that offers things that I really need.
I disagree with your assumption. When wireless charging is announced, or waterproofing, the Apple fans will go crazy for it. Just watch.
And then label everyone who did it all before as patent trolls......
That is where it goes haywire in many discussions, when one start assuming.... Happens all the time.
"Sell while you can, the shares will hit $75 by the end of the summer"
^ This. I think it's evident you took his post seriously/literally. How can you define his overall meaning by reading a post in which is stock influx. He was making a prediction, and quite literally, Apple's shareholders are dumping and fast. That's what he was referring to. Also, reference Carl Icahn in which was a heavily discussed topic
On this as well.
The only thing I need to defend is from you insuating he "Must be Rich." That's sounds sophomoric and its an amateur response. Say what you want, but call a spade a spade.
I certainly hope my answer will solidify your inquiry, otherwise I suggest you contact Apple's litigation team. Maybe they can help explain market share to you, being they can "Predict" Share dividends and most likely are "Rich."
Title is misleading because it's about Alphabet, Google's parent company, which is a conglomerate of companies covering multiple industries.
As a brand, Apple still remains on top of Google, according to Forbes and this recent post:
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/12/apple-most-valuable-brand-2016-forbes/
As a brand, Apple still remains on top of Google, according to Forbes and this recent post:
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/12/apple-most-valuable-brand-2016-forbes/
My two cents is that you are missing a key point - Apple needs to expand, in a meaningful way, beyond the iPhone. You know the list - streaming video / Cloud / content / .....
Remember when Apple was going to OWN the living room? What happened?
I agree with the statement on not expecting them to have a brilliant idea every year, but it has been awhile since they indeed have had a brilliant idea. While I find their engineering to be spot on, and hardware + software integration to be very good (leaps and bounds better than most), they rely on that a little too much sometimes. They went on and on about how brilliant 3D touch (or whatever it is now) was and how beautiful it's engineering, when in reality it offers very little to the experience. Similar thing with just the vibrate function on the watch, I remember them waxing on about that. It's trying to fill a void with quantity...
I just recently tried to do a very simple connect iPhone to laptop and copy a few photos to it to share with other iphone users (we were without internet service). Come to find out I couldn't do this simple procedure without having itunes installed and syncing there.
Of the things Apple does well, they do very well .. the areas where they need work, they REALLY need work. Stupid things like the itunes photo sync issue is just mind numbing.
I think the problem with some of the discussion that goes on is in the definition of innovation. There are several definitions people are using. But if there isn't a clear, defined one - then heated debate occurs.
I think a lot of electronics right now are in a stage of growth and iteration. It's quite possible that Apple may never have a break out product like the iPhone. That doesn't mean they aren't making good, solid products. It is a very different technological landscape we live in now than when the iPhone was introduced. To some degree (although often rhetoric) Tim Cook saying that they are working on things that people don't know they want but will need is true. That's their GOAL. I'm pretty sure that's the goal of many technology companies.
When I get frustrated at tech - it's usually because the "new" version is a step backwards in that it loses functionality that I enjoyed, or is limited in some way instead of being everything the previous version was AND MORE.
I think a lot of electronics right now are in a stage of growth and iteration. It's quite possible that Apple may never have a break out product like the iPhone. That doesn't mean they aren't making good, solid products. It is a very different technological landscape we live in now than when the iPhone was introduced. To some degree (although often rhetoric) Tim Cook saying that they are working on things that people don't know they want but will need is true. That's their GOAL. I'm pretty sure that's the goal of many technology companies.
When I get frustrated at tech - it's usually because the "new" version is a step backwards in that it loses functionality that I enjoyed, or is limited in some way instead of being everything the previous version was AND MORE.
You forget that Apple generated in there fiscal year of 2015 $233 billion in revenue (up 116% in four years), with 40% gross margins (essentially flat over four years), and the company had over $53 billion in net income (up 106%), and EPS increasing 133%, with over $70 billion in free cash flow (up 110%) before dividends and share buybacks and Apple has still almost $144 billion in net cash.
"Apple is doomed!!" .....
You where saying?
Ah, there it is. THATs what I needed. You now MUST interpret his tone in order to wiggle your way out of it.
Thank you.
You must be kidding. If an outdated Mac Pro is your only criticism of Apple you must have exceedingly low expectations.
They're both down about $40B since the last time you ran this story. That is probably the more significant takeaway.
I continue to buy Apple products for numerous reasons. But one of the big ones is Apple's commitment to protecting user privacy and not selling their personally identifiable information. A policy stance that Google will likely never take.
I didn't bother to read posts past the first page because the ignorance of MR readers was making me nauseated. Why don't you guys learn a little bit about business and the stock market?
The valuation of a company is not the same as its profitability. The value of Apple's stock is less than Google's. Yet Apple has accumulated hundreds of billions of dollars from years of incredible profitability. And for the first time in years the GROWTH in their profitability slowed. They are still wildly profitable.
All the stock shows is shareholders' perception of what Apple is worth. If you look at the fundamentals of Apple (I know that most of you here will have no understanding of what that means) it is still grossly undervalued. By the same token Google's fundamentals in no way justify their stock price.
The majority of you arm chair CEOs are making up **** to explain something that you have absolutely no clue about.
The valuation of a company is not the same as its profitability. The value of Apple's stock is less than Google's. Yet Apple has accumulated hundreds of billions of dollars from years of incredible profitability. And for the first time in years the GROWTH in their profitability slowed. They are still wildly profitable.
All the stock shows is shareholders' perception of what Apple is worth. If you look at the fundamentals of Apple (I know that most of you here will have no understanding of what that means) it is still grossly undervalued. By the same token Google's fundamentals in no way justify their stock price.
The majority of you arm chair CEOs are making up **** to explain something that you have absolutely no clue about.
Love all the Apple apologists trying to spin this as fine. If Apple wasn't getting stagnant and making products with innovation making people want to upgrade yearly this wouldn't be an issue. The bottom line is they need to get back to basics and start adding more value to product lines.
They may just be advertising now but they have diversified into cloud and content which are growing rapidly. Apple has talked about diversifying from the iDevices but where is it?
The front page and the comments are getting old quick. Same exact articles, same exact comments. Every post.
Please give me a post about AT&T screwing over customers or Samsung stealing IP quick.
While I'm sure you would like that to happen, with $233 billion in cash (and increasing each quarter), they wouldn't be out of business even if they made $0.00 from now until then. Math.
Same here. I could care less about stock prices since I invest in index funds . As long as the products are useful, of good quality , and my data is protected , I'm happy .
I ditched Google when they changed their privacy policy on Jan 1, 2012 to basically say "all your data are belong to us!"
I do compromise on their search engine , as I have found it does kick arse.