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Google Also Exploiting Enterprise Certificates to Bypass iOS App Store for Data Collection [Update: Disabled]
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Fair point, and it’s hard to say. They are taking money to, in effect, spy on their friends and family (if my assumptions are accurate)
Let me ask this: If Facebook or Google paid a friend to secretly record phone conversations with you and provide them with those recordings, all without your knowledge and consent, would that be okay?
More to the point, I’m not sure these side loaders realize they are compromising their contacts’ privacy in addition to their own. That TOS fine print isn’t something most people read.
I’m having trouble seeing past the idea that you don’t have to be a willing participant to have your data shared. Heck, how do you even know someone you’re in contact with has installed one of these “data collection” apps? There’s zero disclosure.
Lots of sex offenders go to the third world to abuse children.
Do you know why? They find laws in the developed world annoyingly restrictive.
Just think: these are the only ones we’ve caught so far. Wonder how many other companies out there, with names not quite so big as FB and Google, who are busily gathering our data using their “free” apps.
Translations of Google’s statement: “We’re sorry we got caught. We’ll try harder next time not to get caught.”
And it’s not like you get a lot of stuff from Google opinion reward. I have been participating in that program in my Android phone for years, and the rewards are extremely few and far in between. Many are only a few cents here and there as Play store credit, and many don’t even give any rewards at all. And with me allowing full access to my Google account, I got nothing useful from Google Now/Assistant. Just weather and reminders of some promotions email getting expired. Truly useless.
And it’s not like you get a lot of stuff from Google opinion reward. I have been participating in that program in my Android phone for years, and the rewards are extremely few and far in between. Many are only a few cents here and there as Play store credit, and many don’t even give any rewards at all. And with me allowing full access to my Google account, I got nothing useful from Google Now/Assistant. Just weather and reminders of some promotions email getting expired. Truly useless.
I am with you. I don't use FB and I minimize my use of Google as much as I can (DuckDuckGo is a great search engine alternative and there are several good VPNs out there including NordVPN). I also use "Delete Me" from Abine.com to continually purge my personal data from data aggregator websites like Intelius, Spokeo, PeopleFinder, etc. etc. Google & FB and the countless, faceless data aggregators are still going to find ways to build dossiers on all of us but we don't have to make it easy on them.
It wouldn't be okay with me. I'd be mad at the friend and at the company. But I don't know if I have any legal recourse in such a case.
Even if you aren't on Facebook, Facebook may have an extensive file on you, since they can collect information about you from people who ARE on Facebook. That's essentially the same problem.
Makes me wonder how many other companies are exploiting enterprise certificates against the TOS.
Do you REALLY need to ask that?Of course it does.
Of course it doesn't. That's moronic.
“Users have the right?” From where does this right derive? God-given? Contractual? By statute?
Ps: through and their
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Apple didn’t put out this story.
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Additionally, people who install these kinds of apps for rewards may not fully understand the extent of the data that's collected.
Even me, whose native language isnt english, can easily understand the text above. And im sure you get that notice on your own language before installing the app. If you dont understand the text, maybe you should have a guardian.
The real news should be why is it so easy to bypass those restrictions and what else can be done as easily as this?
Looks like your are reading into this. I seriously doubt Google was giving this data away especially to Chinese companies. Unless you are trying to allude that there are similar apps for each of these OEM’s?
Not seeing what you are trying to say.
Sorry.
No, frankly I don't. I could not care less.
Assume everything you do on the internet is there for everyone to see.
And no, they did not get access to all your encrypted traffic, just the ones with low security.
You don’t have to log in to Google to perform searches and you can disable cookie site tracking in Safari.
The only way to make that more private is a VPN or if your ISP deletes your browser history, but governments have requested ISPs to keep your data.
An iCloud membership should provide VPN if Apple’s servers can handle it. I don’t trust other VPN providers because I don’t know who or where or what they are.
Indeed. I agree. And seems like the worst that happens to those bad executives is they get fired and get their huge golden parachutes.
This is another thing I have a problem with. We have to pay to have our information removed from these sites. While there is a way to get it removed for free, they do not make it easy and there are so many that it would take up so much of your time. How is this ok?
Automation still makes it easy for them.
The easiest way to stay off the grid is to:
1) use your own VPN, not a 3rd party
2) don’t use credit cards
3) don’t register to vote
4) use PO Boxes
5) get rid of all your social media
6) don’t have a LinkedIn account for job searching
7) don’t use email
8) put a mask on when you go outside
9) don’t ever buy a house or real estate
10) Live in a remote location where there are no formal roads
Is that app installed voluntarily? Or is it part of any google app you would want to use? So far the apology is only about having used a certificate thats intended for a different purpose.
After all. At least now even a careless person must have understood: (user) data is a currency. And you pay everytime you are online and stay logged into some page, browse, allow cookies or press install. Therefore, neither Apple or Google are actually interested in this thing making the news.
After all. At least now even a careless person must have understood: (user) data is a currency. And you pay everytime you are online and stay logged into some page, browse, allow cookies or press install. Therefore, neither Apple or Google are actually interested in this thing making the news.
So, be your own VPN provider. Most routers today support it. It does help if you have a fast, symmetrical bandwidth connection. (e.g. NOT cable!)
Apple needs to drop the ban hammer. No more double standards. Equally apply the rules to every developer or get rid of the rules and allow anything. No more favorites. No more politics. Make it swift and automatic. A three strikes and your out policy would work well. First offense is a week ban. Second offense is a month ban. Third offense is a permaban. Do it!
They don't sell at huge discounts. They make a fifth of the profit that Apple makes per device.
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/ne...it-per-iphone-in-q3-2017-counterpoint-1793083
This Google program isn't exactly the same as the Facebook issue but nevertheless they violated the terms of their certificate. It should be invalidated.
On other hand Apple should provide some way that these type of programs could run, with full user consent and disclosure. These programs could be about anything, could be some sort of medical trial monitoring, who knows.
On other hand Apple should provide some way that these type of programs could run, with full user consent and disclosure. These programs could be about anything, could be some sort of medical trial monitoring, who knows.