For the most part, unlike Gen Xers.How do you think millennials think and act?
10 Millennials and 10 Gen Xers in a room. Give it some time, you know whos who.
For the most part, unlike Gen Xers.How do you think millennials think and act?
Facebooks app installed a root SSL certificate giving them access to all encrypted network traffic on your device, all of it! Still don't see the problem?Exactly what is the commotion about?
You expect Google and Facebook to provide "essential" services for free, and leave you as a person totally alone and anonymous?
Apple blocks all possibilites to access the data Google/Facebook apparently need to develop their services. They offer money to whomever decides to give them the data. They use the enterprise certificate to achieve their goal. I do not see any problem.
Sheesh, all these entitled people...
For the most part, unlike Gen Xers.
10 Millennials and 10 Gen Xers in a room. Give it some time, you know whos who.
Update: Google has issued an apology and has disabled its Screenwise Meter app on iOS devices. "The Screenwise Meter iOS app should not have operated under Apple's developer enterprise program -- this was a mistake and we apologize. We have disabled this app on iOS devices. This app is completely voluntary and always has been. We've been upfront with users about the way we use their data in this app, and we have no access to encrypted data in apps and on devices, and users can opt out of the program at any time."
kinda off topic isn't it?
For the most part, unlike Gen Xers.
10 Millennials and 10 Gen Xers in a room. Give it some time, you know whos who.
This combined with deciding that corporations are to be treated as separate entities with human-like rights, and then pretending that this faceless corporate entity is responsible for any bad things that happen, and not the head of the company or the board of directors. When the board of director's primary directive is to make more money, and it's the faceless corporate entity that takes the hit for bad behavior - so no consequences for the actual humans making the decisions, the corporate entity often tends towards rather sociopathic behavior.I think the problem is that the corporate mindset is to *increase* profits. It doesn't matter how well they did this or last year. They are judged by increasing profits. So instead of sitting in their meetings being happy with however profitable they are... they have to sit there thinking of how they can make a little more.
Still smells a little funny.
Google: Oh, crap! We've been caught.
Apple: Psst- Just say it was a mistake, so we don't have to be a company of our word.
Google: Awesome! Thanks, guys!
How does one "accidentally" develop an app using the wrong security certificate? As with many things, people are either stupid or lying. Neither one speaks well of them.
Bs. They knew what they were doing. This wasn’t a mistake. So Google and Facebook just happened to make the same “mistake”? Nope, not buying it. They’re just sorry they got caught.
I have not read the entire thread yet but color me confused.
My iPhone 8+ is a work phone (I own) and linked to work with device management and a link to a nonApple work store where we download specific apps not available in the App Store.
How is this different?
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Yet it took Apple 7 years to realize this? Now that is a real confidence builder![]()
Fine. Let it be that then.This program has been running on iOS for over 6 years. Apple doesn’t care. If it gets revoked now it’s just because of the bad press.
Consider this analogy:I don't really see the issue? People had to voluntarily install this on their phone, knowing what it was for and what it would do. Its not like they were sneaking this into one of their other apps or holding people at gun point forcing them to install it.
They made the software, users decided to install it.
Consider this analogy:
I ask you if I can install a listening device in your house. You say OK, so there's no privacy violation involved. But instead of mailing it to you, which is a legal way I can deliver it to you, I bypass the post office and put it in your mailbox myself, which we'll assume is a violation of post office regulations. I'm misusing the delivery mechanism, so you and I are square but the post office has a problem with my violation of their rules. As a result, they might revoke my permission to use people's mailboxes. And that means I might not be able to mail anything to myself either!
This isn't between Apple and iPhone owners. It's between Apple and Google (and Apple and Facebook) for violating the terms agreed to between the companies.Oh so the issue is people are doing what they want with the phones they paid for instead of what Apple tells them they can do with their phone.
I may be wrong, but these apps can read other apps, right? Including emails apps, messaging apps etc?I don't really see the issue? People had to voluntarily install this on their phone, knowing what it was for and what it would do. Its not like they were sneaking this into one of their other apps or holding people at gun point forcing them to install it.
They made the software, users decided to install it.
Still smells a little funny.
Google: Oh, crap! We've been caught.
Apple: Psst- Just say it was a mistake, so we don't have to be a company of our word.
Google: Awesome! Thanks, guys!
How does one "accidentally" develop an app using the wrong security certificate? As with many things, people are either stupid or lying. Neither option speaks well of them.
A mistake, yea right. The Google employees who wrote that and those that read it prior to it being released were probably having a good laugh.
I may be wrong, but these apps can read other apps, right? Including emails apps, messaging apps etc?
If that’s the case, and you communicated with someone who had side-loaded one of these apps, hasn’t your private communications with that person also been shared?
To quote part of the TechCrunch story about Facebook, users agree to share “data about your activities and content within those apps, as well as how other people interact with you or your content within those apps.”
So I don’t have to run this side-loaded app to have my privacy violated, I just have to communicate with someone who does?
Can these apps read iMessage conversations between the person who installed it and their contacts?
and that it sat there for 7 years before Apple had an issue.
Yeah.
My guess is that yes that can happen. But it's not clear who violated your privacy. The person you were communicating with gave the data to someone else (a business), who is looking at it with their permission. The person you were talking to could just as well have taken a screenshot and posted it online, or printed your email and taped it to pole in the public square. Is the person or the business guilty?I may be wrong, but these apps can read other apps, right? Including emails apps, messaging apps etc?
If that’s the case, and you communicated with someone who had side-loaded one of these apps, hasn’t your private communications with that person also been shared?
Regardless, your data is on someone else’s computer. You never know who could be snooping through it.Yes, but I trust Apple with my data a lot more than I trust Google with it.