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Specifically... If it's not a problem for developers to develop apps for all the Android devices... How does it effect the end user?
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Specifically... If it's not a problem for developers to develop apps for all the Android devices... How does it effect the end user?
Indeed. TennisandMusic is in for a surprise if he thinks he's going to Android for better voice quality. Consumer Reports rated the iPhone 4 higher than the EVO, higher than the Captivate, higher than the Hero, the Pre, The HD2, the Droid X, the Droid 2, the Droid Incredible, the list goes on, in voice quality.
No, they're really not. Does Apple want to sell you stuff? Sure. But if you want a song, a video, a movie, or an eBook you can easily go elsewhere and purchase them. I could drop my iPhone today and switch to Android and not really miss a beat. Google is another beast entirely. Good luck getting information about your business out to the public without Google. Good luck getting people to find your business (either physically or virtually) without Google. If you're not on Google, you're screwed. If Google does not provide accurate information about you or your business, you're screwed. Google owns you.
I once wandered a residential neighborhood looking for a major outdoor equipment superstore. I was following Google Maps. I finally called them to find out where they really were (about 2 miles away). The woman on the phone said they get these calls all the time. They've reported the problem to Google but Google "didn't seem to care." How's that for scary? Maybe you'll be able to pay Google to ensure your business is accurately represented. Too bad about your competitors who aren't going to pay Google "protection money." Their customers will end up wandering residential neighborhoods, or be redirected to your business website.
A Google-controlled world? Good luck with that. Anyone who can't see the incredible dangers here is either blind or just naive. Apple's iGadget sales have nowhere near the potential for catastrophe as Google's stranglehold on the world's access to information. I used to love Google. Now they're starting to terrify me.
Apple is a selfish corporation I can walk away from if I so choose. Google is a selfish corporation that is reaching its tentacles into every aspect of my life. And the only alternative is...Bing? From Microsoft? Reassuring.
Enjoy your "open" mobile experience, Fandroids. Don't say we didn't warn you.
Yes but thats like saying someone with an old laptop (PC or Mac) is suffering because their game doesn't work on it.
If they really need to play the game, they would upgrade. If they don't care, and all their current apps work...they'll be fine.
Now tell me honestly, do you think there are people on android 1.6 that are pushing their uses of their smartphone to the limit? Or are those the ones with the Evos, Epics, Droid x's etc.?
Apple does the same thing.
When I had my 3GS i did not want to upgrade from 3.0 firmware. But it got to the point where all the new apps required I run 3.1 or no app.
Now you're gonna have people with 3G iPhones that will not be able to run 4.xx and up software. So it's fragmented as well.
Are you high?
How does this NOT affect users? When a developer doesn't target your device or Android OS?
This straight up affects the end user. It is true that the user doesn't care but once he can't install angry birds because it doesn't run on his newly bought android phone running android-rom-1.4-toaster-edition things will be apparent: It doesn't work.
Considering that they completely, utterly, dominate the market, I'd say yeah......it did.
You are such a troll.
You say geeks and android fans dodge the "issue" but when android end users, android developers and other geeks come in to assure you that this "issue" is a figment of Steve Job's imagination you go ahead and dodge away.
Unless of course they are jealous like so many others and can't stand the fact that Apple can rightfully call others out. You think SJ doesn't know what he's talking about? Are you kidding?
Tweetdeck devs can say whatever they want. Doesn't mean they are being honest.
Not everyone thinks that Apple made a mistake here. I for one have used plenty of Android devices, and they are a nightmare to use. Many apps only run on certain devices. Such a PITA.
I'll give you an example. Two co-workers with Android phones were talking at their cubicles the other day about their phones. These are non-geeks btw. One was commenting on the "pretty clock app" that's always on the home screen, and wanted to know what it was so they could get it too for theirs. But the thing was, the "pretty clock app" was just the Sense UI on their HTC phone...which isn't available on the other guys Droid. They couldn't figure it out. Why couldn't he just buy it and download it since they were both Android phones, he kept asking (over and over to the point it got fricken annoying). This is one reason why fragmentation can be confusing for non-geeks like these two guys.
It's also funny that when they saw I got an iPhone 4 they just snickered and said how it wasn't "open"...though when I asked what that meant they shut up because they were just parroting what they had heard the media spouting.
I saw the link on Gizmodo on the chart from TweetDeck on the different Android platforms they had to test. Wow!
It might not be a problem for TweetDeck, but maybe it could be for others. Maybe some companies wouldn't want to develop for Android if it is that fragmentent.
Yeah, but you chose not to update your firmware. The issue with Android fragamentation is some can't update their firmware.
It might not be a problem for TweetDeck, but maybe it could be for others. Maybe some companies wouldn't want to develop for Android if it is that fragmentent.
Yeah, but you chose not to update your firmware. The issue with Android fragamentation is some can't update their firmware.
Thank you. Voices of reason like this are being muted by a loud outcry of overzealous Google fans. Its just a huge pity indeed.
It is not the same thing. What you are talking about has nothing to do with fragmentation. v3.1 v4.0 vXYZ or any iOS release for that matter comes from one single vendor: Apple.
Someone has an iPhone another has a Black Berry. How come I can't run your apps?!?!?
Dude, the manufacturer made the apps. They released it for their handsets. Also, there are plenty of alternatives in the Android Market that look the same if someone searches. HTC had no power to "reject" those for "duplicate functionality" either.
Not really. Apple is making the decision. What if I wanted the faster phone, but I would rather pay less than getting a great, albeit expensive, camera? No dice.
I saw the link on Gizmodo on the chart from TweetDeck on the different Android platforms they had to test. Wow!
It might not be a problem for TweetDeck, but maybe it could be for others. Maybe some companies wouldn't want to develop for Android if it is that fragmentent.
Honestly... It's like people have never heard of Java and Virtual Machines.
I wish Steve would attend EVERY conference call. Oppenheimer, Schiller, etc. are just boooooooring.
Based on sales numbers "non-geeks" are getting "tired" of the iPhone and switching over to Android in droves. Have you seen the numbers? I know I am about to join them. Kind of tired of having an iPhone for three years and having my calls (with the iPhone 4) sounding like they are originating from a tin can. Can't wait!
based on numbers, hell any device running ANY flavor of android is considered.
while I agree with you that there are a lot of devices running android out there, and given the US carrier's tactic of "buy one get the other (cheaper) android phone free" then yes, android is out there.
However, i have yet to see any "non-geek" say oh i think i am tired with the iPhone.... when in fact it is the opposite....
The "fragmentation" is not just software, but also the speed at which hardware becomes obsolete. Droid Eris is a prime example of how a perfectly good phone goes to waste because it can't be updated all because of carrier related shenanigans....