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I'll probably buy one for $199 just to try it out. I paid a lot more than that for my Google Nexus One and I used that for less than six months before I got so frustrated with the OS that I put it in the closet and went back to the iPhone.
 
Good for you. Care to share a logical reason for your somewhat childish view other than "they know I went shopping last thursday because they recorded my location"?

You must be one of those people who shop at WalMart. There are many well know/documented reasons to dislike Google.
 
Correct. A mid 2012 rig has a better proc than an early 2011. It's also smaller, plastic and I garauntee they are making no money on it. They are simply showing up to stop the amazon fork and show off jellybean..... An OS that nobody will really get to play with for a year.

As a buyer I really do not care if they make money on it or not (in fact I'd prefer they did not). iPad 2 is a current model. Besides, everything in this comparison stands with regard to iPad 3 too - except for the display. Use of plastic is an advantage. Notice that Nexus is half the weight of the iPad.
 
They'll get to play with it in a couple of weeks. ;)

Star date June 27, 2012.... ICS has reached 7% of Android install base.

Jellybean will ride a wave of .00256% for this launch and with any luck hit 5% of the base by this time next year.
 
Despite 2.1 minutes of excitement the nexus wasn't at all spectacular in both specs and sales. It's only been 6 months and the idea of buying a Nexus today would literally be asinine.

As opposed to the idea of buying iPhone being permanently asinine? It's permanently behind Android top of the line phones on specs. Nexus phone has better specs than iPhone right now.

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Star date June 27, 2012.... ICS has reached 7% of Android install base.

Jellybean will ride a wave of .00256% for this launch and with any luck hit 5% of the base by this time next year.

Obviously this comment is totally irrelevant. Nexus tablet being Google's own device it is guaranteed to be updated the same way iPads get updated.
 
As a buyer I really do not care if they make money on it or not (in fact I'd prefer they did not). iPad 2 is a current model. Besides, everything in this comparison stands with regard to iPad 3 too - except for the display. Use of plastic is an advantage. Notice that Nexus is half the weight of the iPad.

In the world of business it's about making money. If you're a bleeding heart Robin Hood liberal then yes free **** is good, but if a product doesn't make money for a business then it's not sustainable. When you buy a nexus tablet you're not supporting googles bottom line or the product, you're supporting google trying to simply put amazon away. No kindle fire = no google tablet.

The weight comparison has nothing to do with Aluminum and plastic. The iPads battery is literally 2-3x larger and thus heavier. It has to be bigger to drive larger retina display and graphics 2+ times more powerful.
 
What do you do on a 7" device that requires quad-core? I know it looks good on a spec sheet and gives the tech nerds something to brag about but what's the practical application?

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First the nexus 7 doesn't even come close to the iPad and there isn't really anything special about it. It's pretty much just a kindle fire with cameras and a barebone os, and we all know how that went.
Ah but it's quad-core so that makes it special. :p
 
I think the Nexus 7 is a really good move from Google. They've made a nice, affordable tablet aimed at the non-techy consumer, and they've priced it in a way very few could match. They aren't aiming for the iPad... their 3rd party OEM partners can do that... they are aiming at the Kindle Fire.

This is essentially an "Up your game, Amazon."
 
What do you do on a 7" device that requires quad-core? I know it looks good on a spec sheet and gives the tech nerds something to brag about but what's the practical application?

Power savings is the main reason.
Task are completed quicker.
The more time a CPU sits in low power mode, the longer you battery will last.
 
I truly don't understand why for many people "liking" Apple and their products means they can't objectively look at a product from any other company. Although this is a Mac/Apple forum and a strong pro Apple sentiment is to be expected the "it's crap because it's not Apple" and "Apple can do no wrong" atitude is getting really tired.

I'm sure Apple is "worried" by Google/MS moves in the mobile market just because Jobs is gone it doesn't mean that everyone at Apple suddenly got stupid and is not concerned about what the competition is doing. Think of Palm, RIM and Microsoft(WM) and what their complacency has won them when their dominance/strong position in the market place was being challenged.

It would be good for many posters here to think about the Nexus 7 and MS Surface situation/challenge from a business perspective instead of a blind fanboy one. Android is developing very rapidly improving and expending and now Google is showing an increased interested in hardware, MS is showing a renewed strong commitment to the mobile market again in both hardware and software, these are both very strong players with stated and now proven commitment backed up by huge resource base, they will not fade and wither the way Palm and Nokia(Symbian) did. Competition does not have to be totally direct to affect sales/market share.
 
I'm delighted by the Surface, THAT looks interesting. This stuff... just more of the same. I preordered a Nexus 7. I hope I am wrong about it, but I'm guessing it ends up keeping the Kindle Fire company on my shelf.

I will never understand (it honestly is just beyond me), how someone can sit there and use an Android device (of which I have tried many) and not feel like it is a poor copy of an iPhone. It feels "sloppy." I understand that's not a quantifiable thing, but it leads to a product that I do not find enjoyable to use. The iPhone and Windows Phone (7+) interfaces are created like someone cared about them - that's about the only way I can articulate it.

Simple reason:
Widgets

Actually it comes in quite handy to have a preinstalled widget on the homescreen to toggle Bluetooth, display brightness, WLAN and GPS.

And I find it funny that you accuse Google of data mining while Apple does the exact same thing (or could you please elaborate how the iTMS-EULA and the App-Store-EULA are excluding that - refer to Section b of the standard App Store EULA).
 
Remember at I/O a few years ago when the big speech was about how Google was stepping in because they didn't think one company should control the mobile marketplace...

Did you not agree with them then, or do you just not care now that it's a company that harvests your data for marketing purposes?

I'm delighted by the Surface, THAT looks interesting. This stuff... just more of the same. I preordered a Nexus 7. I hope I am wrong about it, but I'm guessing it ends up keeping the Kindle Fire company on my shelf.

I will never understand (it honestly is just beyond me), how someone can sit there and use an Android device (of which I have tried many) and not feel like it is a poor copy of an iPhone. It feels "sloppy." I understand that's not a quantifiable thing, but it leads to a product that I do not find enjoyable to use. The iPhone and Windows Phone (7+) interfaces are created like someone cared about them - that's about the only way I can articulate it.

i use what i think is best for what i want to do. i dont sit down and think "omg this is just like on iOS" and i'm not even a android user. both have their advantages and i'm glad they co-exist incase i ever want to jump the iOS ship in the future.
 
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As opposed to the idea of buying iPhone being permanently asinine? It's permanently behind Android top of the line phones on specs. Nexus phone has better specs than iPhone right now.

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Obviously this comment is totally irrelevant. Nexus tablet being Google's own device it is guaranteed to be updated the same way iPads get updated.

This is another one of the most stupid posts that you see constantly from the google side. Android phones are mostly on par with the iPhone except in software. Yes you can customize more. That's about it. Its taken everyone else 2 years to finally match the iphone screen ppi. That being said, Apple releases a phone once a year while New android phones drop every Thursday at 3:45. There will always be newer kit out there ahead of an iPhone update. The GIII is just hitting the market with the same camera as the 4S yet weaker performance according to reviews thanks to software. The screen is pentile crap. AMOLED is nice, but your pixels are woefully overated. The processor is irrelevant since android can't handle high end processors properly, but even if it could it's right on par with iPhone. Gpu. Same deal. Apple wins every time.

Not sure what you mean on the last part. Yes the new tab will get updates. All .025 of the user base will rejoice. The rest are screwed. Repeat what I said before, JB will be lucky to hit 5% penetration by same time next year.
 
In the world of business it's about making money. If you're a bleeding heart Robin Hood liberal then yes free **** is good, but if a product doesn't make money for a business then it's not sustainable. When you buy a nexus tablet you're not supporting googles bottom line or the product, you're supporting google trying to simply put amazon away. No kindle fire = no google tablet.

The weight comparison has nothing to do with Aluminum and plastic. The iPads battery is literally 2-3x larger and thus heavier. It has to be bigger to drive larger retina display and graphics 2+ times more powerful.

I might be liberal but I am not Robin Hood. I am a consumer and as such I do not care for Google or Apple profits. I am pretty sure republican consumer think the same way Although, looking at the health care reform, minimum wage and labor union battles, I am not sure most of them (who are poor) really understand how things work.
 
Glass is undescribably awesome. Seriously, it really is a whole new monster. Imagine a HUD while you walk around, with a camera built in so you can look at something and it takes a photo.

Its clearly still under heavy development, but its looking awesome.

Take a look at this as it gives a small insight: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/sergey-brin-demos-project-glass-on-stage-at-google-i-o/

Here's the concept video from a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6W4CCU9M4

Nobody, aside from absolute Google zealots, will be caught dead wearing those stupid things.

Walking around waving your arms hoping for something to happen on an invisible screen only you can see won't make me like you; it'll just make me think you're a complete douche bag.

As opposed to the idea of buying iPhone being permanently asinine? It's permanently behind Android top of the line phones on specs. Nexus phone has better specs than iPhone right now.

Aw, the Google fans are trying to convince people that Android is actually good.

How laughably pathetic.
 
Not even close. Apple is a systems vendor. They sell systems. Integrated hardware and software solutions. They don't just sell hardware, they don't just sell software.

90% of their business is systems. iPad, iPhone, MacBooks, iMac, etc.. All vertically integrated systems.

Come on people, we've been over this.

I'm agreeing with you. But if I have to pick one over the other, I'd say more software as the hardware is mostly manufacture by third party, even though under their design.

But yes, is both.
 
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