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as long as you don't mind them logging geotags and running facial recognition to pair with the rest of the information they've cobbled together about you.

unless you have an outstanding arrest warrant or are doing something illegal in your photos, who cares if Google is geotagging your photos.
 
Apple better get Apple Pay integrated with loyalty fast! It's annoying to pull out a dumb card for loyalty then tap my phone/watch. Android Pay has a great system going on here! Not sure how it knows which terminal is associated with which retailer to pull up the right card automatically.
 
Android Pay? Sounds familiar.....

Yeah sounds suspiciously like Samsung Pay, which really sounds like Apple Pay, which uses NFC as well. Come to think of it Apple Pay sounds like this other service, Google Wallet, which also used NFC. It's like everyone's competing to bring the same type of service or something, and Apple wasn't first but people feel like they were or something.
 
Apple better get Apple Pay integrated with loyalty fast! It's annoying to pull out a dumb card for loyalty then tap my phone/watch. Android Pay has a great system going on here! Not sure how it knows which terminal is associated with which retailer to pull up the right card automatically.

Geofencing type tech. When I'm near an AMC or Famous Footwear or Best Buy my phone (Moto X 2014) using Google Wallet drops a notification with the loyalty card's barcode ready to go. I'm running 5.1 Lollipop but this has been the case since KitKat.
 
Android Pay? Sounds familiar.....

When they were introducing Android Pay they did not once talk about if, or if not, Google can record what the person is buying.

When Apple introduced Apple Pay they spent a great amount of time explaining that they would not have any record of what the user was purchasing, their purchase history, where they were, and so on.

Is this a way for Google to sell more information?
 
Also, how many people are using Android 5.0?

It would be interesting to know, in absolute terms, whether more people are using iOS 8 than Android 5.0.

MANY more are using iOS 8 than there are using Lollipop.

Though Android Pay goes back to KitKat. (Still iOS8 may win by a slim margin). Google Wallet works further back than KitKat but only on select devices. It was KitKat which introduced Host Card Emulation enabling Wallet (now Android Pay) to work on any device breaking out of carrier restrictions.

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When they were introducing Android Pay they did not once talk about if, or if not, Google can record what the person is buying.

When Apple introduced Apple Pay they spent a great amount of time explaining that they would not have any record of what the user was purchasing, their purchase history, where they were, and so on.

Is this a way for Google to sell more information?

Apple does not know what you buy with Apple Pay.

Google knows what I buy with Wallet, it's data that incan go back and reference. But I'm sure Google likes having this info too. I imagine this will stay the same with Android Pay.
 
When they did the Android Now Tap demo and they were listening to Sckrillex and they simply asked "What's his real name" didn't that question seem extremely left field even from a context standpoint? If I were listening to this and someone walked up to me and asked "Whats his real name?" I would have no idea what they were talking about!

Either seems staged or possibly interfering with my user experience. What if I was listening to Sckrillex in the background and wanted to ask the same question about something I was reading online?
 
Well Android Pay! I really think its amazing where they have come from and where they picked up that that idea! Simply Amazing!

Yeah! It's so amazing! Google Wallet right? That's what you meant? Something I was using on my Nexus S back in 2012.

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When they did the Android Now Tap demo and they were listening to Sckrillex and they simply asked "What's his real name" didn't that question seem extremely left field even from a context standpoint? If I were listening to this and someone walked up to me and asked "Whats his real name?" I would have no idea what they were talking about!

Either seems staged or possibly interfering with my user experience. What if I was listening to Sckrillex in the background and wanted to ask the same question about something I was reading online?

The context is what's on the screen first then maybe background tasks. (On Tap presents a list of suggestions, so it stands to reason it can answer that question for what's on the page you're reading and the music).

The example they showed had the music app open as the main app which is why there was only one answer and a webpage opened up rather than a list of suggested answers.

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I had google wallet years ago. It was ****** useless.
Got apple pay when the 6 came out, I used it more often than the google wallet i had for years. :apple:

"Android Pay"... lol it looks like Samsung gave google their copy machine :D

Living in Chicago I used it for CTA, Walgreen's, Subway, and other random stores. Surely not as ubiquitous as Apple Pay is now but definitely was using it on a weekly basis here.

Hopefully Android Pay will have the same reach as Apple Pay now that terminals have caught up thanks to the groundwork laid in by Visa and later Wallet.

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Except how many phones can use android pay if it needs a fingerprint reader, and of the ones who actually have that how many can read reliably, quickly and easily like the iPhone can? I honestly don't know the answer I assume its not many

It does NOT REQUIRE a fingerprint reader. It can use one if it's there and you're running Android M. Otherwise you can setup Android Pay on any device running Kit Kat or higher (that was when they introduced Host Card Emulation). You can use a pin code to make purchases if you want (like with Wallet)
 
It does NOT REQUIRE a fingerprint reader. It can use one if it's there and you're running Android M. Otherwise you can setup Android Pay on any device running Kit Kat or higher (that was when they introduced Host Card Emulation). You can use a pin code to make purchases if you want (like with Wallet)

So if someone steals someone else's phone and they didn't bother to put a security feature on it then they just got that person's wallet too?
 
No. What they're buying is anonymous data profiles. Heights, weights, search habits, maybe what you look like. But a person is more than just anonymous data.

No, they're buying targeted advertising. Google literally scans your gmail to find words that allow them to serve up targeted advertising at you.

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I didn't knew that companies had access to Google users? Can you point me to that information? Thanks

See above.
 
No, they're buying targeted advertising. Google literally scans your gmail to find words that allow them to serve up targeted advertising at you.

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See above.

And those ads are using anonymized data. I don't see how what you put disagrees with what I did.
 
Or has everyone forgotten the fappening

No, I haven't forgotten, I still have the folder somewhere...
But you can't compare a hacking and the company deliberately accessing and using user data... A hacking can happen to any data anywhere... Even Sony private data went public...

"Time and time again the evidence has shown that they're grabbing it IN TRANSIT TO the servers."

Again, this is hacking from your government, this is not a business using your private data to earn money...
And actually, your government doesn't need your data to transit to a server. They can grab data from a computer that is not even connected to the Internet. At least, they could 20 years ago, I don't see why they could not nowadays.

But I don't see what this has to do with Apple. Business are powerless there, it's not like they can legally do much against this. That's for the citizens to solve. What we can expect from business is how they handle the data given to them by their customers.

"At least with Android you can, in theory, inspect the sources. And with Nexus and other CM/AOSP supported devices, you can even roll your own builds."

You will still have the backdoors in the hardware, from your government and possibly others (since most of the hardware is built in China)... Moreover, not all of Android is open source, the Google services are closed source and Android without Google Play is kind of pointless...
 
...and no privacy!

Sorry, not convinced. I don't like the idea of seeing my private information (even shopping habits) sold and/or traded like a commodity. I just don't trust Google. Even with my photos.
 
Sorry, not convinced. I don't like the idea of seeing my private information (even shopping habits) sold and/or traded like a commodity. I just don't trust Google. Even with my photos.

Google doesn't sell personal information, they sell ad space.
 
That there's copying to and from is to be expected. I'm happy for Apple to copy some of the good Google features (Now-like functionality for Siri, third party keyboards) and I'm happy for Google to copy Apple features where they aren't protected. That's just how technology progresses. We all win out in the end so petty name calling isn't very productive.

What is interesting is that Apple is now able to improve their platform at a quicker pace simply from controlling the entire stack. Google can announce all these features, but they won't be in the hand of the majority of their user base for years. Apple can announce a feature and have it in the hands of 80% of users in less than a year. That's an amazing boon for developers and users.
 
Apple just needs to suck it up on cloud pricing. They are embarrassingly stingy when it comes to cloud storage. And if they're going to continue to sell 16GB devices then they need to offer more and cheaper cloud offerings.

Really? That $3.99 a month for 200GBs breaking your wallet? :rolleyes:
 
Sorry, not convinced. I don't like the idea of seeing my private information (even shopping habits) sold and/or traded like a commodity. I just don't trust Google. Even with my photos.

Nothing is sold by Google.

A lot of people here do not understand what Google does with the info.

None of it is sold.


Let me explain it in kid friendly terms:

Bob buys an Android phone and Bob has an obsession on bananas.

Trevor is banana tree farmer and wants to sell more bananas.

Google know that Bob loves bananas based on his browsing habits and search terms.

Trevor decides to create online ads with Google. His business information is submitted to Google.

Now Google knows that Bob loves bananas so Google begins showing Trevor's Banana farm ads to Bob.

Trevor has no idea who Bob is or if he even exists.

In all these interactions, when was Bobs info sold to third-parties? Never.

Is it so hard to understand?
 
Google Photos compresses your photos (they say with high quality compression). Storing "Originals" counts against your Google Drive quota, which is 15GB free or $9.99/month for 1TB of storage.
 
What is interesting is that Apple is now able to improve their platform at a quicker pace simply from controlling the entire stack. Google can announce all these features, but they won't be in the hand of the majority of their user base for years. Apple can announce a feature and have it in the hands of 80% of users in less than a year. That's an amazing boon for developers and users.

IF we use your argument, you can say that Google has the advantages because they cater to both Android and iOS users. That said, they can have their features on more users than Apple ever can.
 
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