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I wish Google maps was stored locally on your iPhone and not streamed everytime you want to get a map. It would be much faster and more responsive that way. They could combine that with some updates and ads from the cloud.

How much memory is on your iPhopne and how big is the map collection? I think the iPhone would need more than a thousand times as much memory to hold all those maps.

The way to do it is to casch the maps on the phone. Keep only the most recentlt accessed data on the phone. And guess what? That how it works now.
 
Even if OSX was as superior as you believe it to be, its quite obvious why Apple has barely dented MS marketshare. Apple refuse to sell their OS except on their own overpriced hardware. Queue all the Apple fans saying its not overpriced. Well sorry, but you really are the minority who think that.

Google's browser has been a success in so far as it got more share of the market than Opera in 1/10th the time. I would say its possible for Google to repeat that success with their OS if they do the same things that made Chrome great. Keep it fast but with a featureset that makes it simple to use and uncluttered.

Ditto, well said...
 
Isn't it peripheral interoperability and plug-and-play-ness tha makes OSs really take off??!

I can't imagine anyones mom, no matter how simple her computing needs, jumping at the opportunity to a) learn a new OS b) hope that her iPod or zine for that matter will work with it. Will HP/Canon etc be quick with making drivers for it? Will apple make iTunes for it (I have a hard time seeing why they would... Hello, linux iTunes anyone??!?).

The Linux kernel takes care of compatibility for a wide range of hardware, albeit with gaps for newer hardware and manufacturers who don't release details. There is already a Linux alternative to iTunes, with the ability to sync iPods but without a store. However iTunes is not the only online music store.
 
I'm willing to bet that I've been using windows a far sight longer than you, since pre 3.11, and there are so many dependencies that applications share. Couple that with Microsofts lazy Add/Remove Programs utility that will just run the applications own Uninstaller if its available, and it's relatively easy for one uninstaller to delete a DLL file that two applications use and have a second application that won't run properly until you can dig up a copy of the missing DLL. It's not something that heppens frequently for me or likely any other power user, but casual users do this kind of crap pretty often.

I too have been using Windows since pre 3.11, and I have ONCE seen the sort of issues you talk about. Ironically, I've had more issues with botched uninstalls from google products on OS X (Picasa) then I ever have had on Windows...
 
Funny how, given the dearth of actual information about what this OS can or can't do, you get people saying "Apple needs competition"

You guys don't even know what Chome OS can do ..how are you going to compare it with OS X?

For Chrome OS to be a success it has to do about 5 major things that simply cannot be done with a full OS and web browser and I've got my doubts that ANY web technology from Google cannot be easily replicated by everyone else.

Well, let me put it this way: we're not comparing... yet. We're just hoping that Google does a good enough job with it's OS that it gives Apple the incentive to innovate more...
 
What version of Leopard are you running? I've had these issues a few times with a Macbook but haven't since 10.5.6/10.5.7...

(I also own Hackint0sh and iMac... Hackint0sh dual-booting with XP because Vista sucked/Explorer.exe crashes and XP's just for gaming/not for surfing because of viruses... )
10.5.7... I think my 3 week old MBP came with that version actually. The runaway CPU usage for coreservicesd was supposedly introduced with 10.5.7, at least that's what some say but there are posts about this issue that predate 10.5.7 as well.
 
And Eric Schmidt continues to sit on Apple's BoD. hmmmm, how does that work?

I've been questioning his presence on Apple's Board for over a year now, but this should be the icing on the cake. There are too many conflicts of interest at this point.
 
anyone remember Be OS? how it was designed with graphics in mind, and how it was made for the beginning of the web? no? well it failed.... so history isn't looking good for chrome OS. I would say however, that this could be an awesome OS to use on your computer, as your second Operating system, for when you want a light experience, and don't need a lot of computing power. I just wonder one thing: how the heck would you do anything on an airplane??
 
10.5.7... I think my 3 week old MBP came with that version actually. The runaway CPU usage for coreservicesd was supposedly introduced with 10.5.7, at least that's what some say but there are posts about this issue that predate 10.5.7 as well.

Very interesting indeed... Have you tried this?:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2003101415481414

Anyhow running a search "coreservicesd" only turns out some 4000-5000 results... nothing compared to "ODBC32.DLL missing"—63000 results... (yes, i picked a random dll i found in a google search— because "vista dll missing"'s number would sound inflated— 49,400,000...)
 
Google is the new Evil Empire. I can't believe I'd be rooting for Microsoft to beat some competitor, but this is it.

I'll refuse using any Google stuff lately. And I sure wouldn't use my primary computer with Google OS as I don't like people sniffing my privacy.
 
I too have been using Windows since pre 3.11, and I have ONCE seen the sort of issues you talk about. Ironically, I've had more issues with botched uninstalls from google products on OS X (Picasa) then I ever have had on Windows...
Count me in... I started with Win 3.0. Wrecked DLL dependencies sounds like a Win95 era type problem, never encountered it in the last 10 years or more. If there are codependencies the uninstaller will always warn.

I also don't see what's "lazy" about the Add/Remove program panel. At least it exists. At least there's one centralized location for handling these things. OS X just rides on the old "oh, it's so easy on Mac, you just drag the app to the trash" which stopped being the case many years ago. These days installers scatter files all over the place, and there's no unified process for uninstallation. Some installers put an uninstaller in the Tools and Utilities folder. With others you have to download the app again just to dig out the uninstaller, and some simply don't have an uninstaller at all, but either way you can always be sure that there's tons of leftover garbage in various /Library and /Username/Library folders -- some of it may even be harmful. I remember uninstalling the driver for a Yamaha 01X audio device, there was a script but it was missing a couple of entries, one of them being the MIDI driver for the 01X. Upon restart I'd get a blue screen for 20 minutes while this orphan MIDI thingy was keeping the iMac in limbo before I finally arrived at Leopard's login prompt. Took me a day to track down the culprit, some silly little <500 kB file.

Wikinerd said:
Very interesting indeed... Have you tried this?:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...03101415481414
Nope, but I'll give it a shot. Thanks. Like I said, coreservicesd gobbles up all CPU juice for several minutes on bootup. If I remove the SMB share from the Startup Items panel it immediately stops, and if I put it back there it immediately starts again. This does not happen on my Mac Mini (with 10.5.7) which mounts the exact same SMB share on startup.

This thread suggests it started with 10.5.7 but the same problem was reported on other threads with 10.5.6 as well as 10.5.3. OS X really seems to hate network drives, there are so many issues with it. I used to have my iTunes library on a NAS drive, used it for years in iTunes on Windows without issues. But when I tried the same on Mac, it would randomly lose sight of the files (even though the NAS drive was mounted and I was able to browse it in Finder) and exclamation points would show up in front of the tracks. Once those pesky "!" icons would show up you had to show iTunes where every single song was, not merely once but for every track with a "!" in front of it, or rebuild the whole library.
 
I also don't see what's "lazy" about the Add/Remove program panel. At least it exists. At least there's one centralized location for handling these things. OS X just rides on the old "oh, it's so easy on Mac, you just drag the app to the trash" which stopped being the case many years ago. These days installers scatter files all over the place, and there's no unified process for uninstallation. Some installers put an uninstaller in the Tools and Utilities folder. With others you have to download the app again just to dig out the uninstaller, and some simply don't have an uninstaller at all, but either way you can always be sure that there's tons of leftover garbage in various /Library and /Username/Library folders -- some of it may even be harmful. I remember uninstalling the driver for a Yamaha 01X audio device, there was a script but it was missing a couple of entries, one of them being the MIDI driver for the 01X. Upon restart I'd get a blue screen for 20 minutes while this orphan MIDI thingy was keeping the iMac in limbo before I finally arrived at Leopard's login prompt. Took me a day to track down the culprit, some silly little <500 kB file.

Well, those files left in /Library and ~/Library usually amount to very, very little space when compared to the App itself... thus if you're in a hurry of clearing up space you can just drag to trash instead of opening up the uninstaller and waiting for it to finish.

Some big apps, however, don't follow suit and often have large libraries and background processes that require an installer, etc.

As for that driver, if the uninstallation utility caused that problem, it's the coder's fault, not Apple's...


PS. this way also simplifies the troubleshooting process.. The application stays untouched by changes while all of the user's preferences of that App gets stored in .plist files. Thus nuking the .plist file effectively makes the app "new" again... instead of digging in Program Files, Registry, and uninstalling the whole thing together
 
I'll stick to OS X thanks.

Good search engine and email, but OS? What programs will it run? .goog files? hahahaha without Windows support or (although 99% doubted) Mac app support it's gonna tank. Can't expect developers to start building everything over for GoogOS! And do we remember G Web Apps? THEY ARE HORRIBLE.

If it's going to be based on the internets, they better make the internets 2.0 really soon.
 
Cloud Computing

I used to poo poo the notion that Cloud Computing was going to be anything more than the buzzword of the year, but It is becoming clear that these are some very viable technologies and I think Google has a real shot here.

A web based OS, Cloud Storage, Browser, and Office Suite are a large part of what we use PC's for. Now we're starting to see technologies like Gaikai that can deliver some significant 3D gaming capability from the cloud.

I can see a future where some might toss the traditional computer, OS, maintenance and hassle for something approaching more of an appliance. Giving people 90% of what they need for maybe a tenth of the current cost might be a viable idea.

To be fair, we've seen many similar technologies before. X-Terms, Thin Clients, Remote Displays, etc... They all failed for various reasons. But there was a day that Dumb Terminals reigned supreme for many uses so who knows, maybe we're headed back into something like that.
 
I think Microsoft needs to be very concerned. They are going to have a hard time selling Windows licenses to manufacturers once Google has a cheap OS available. I'll stick with OS-X, but it would be nice if more of the masses got to experience an OS that didn't stink.
 
Wow, I was just predicting this when someone asked what I thought the next successful mainstream OS might be! I said not Linux, but something from Google's Chrome project.


We'll have competition for Apple on both the "mini OS" (Chrome) and "full OS" (Windows) fronts. Sounds good to me!
 
Why would Dell or HP be excited about this? Because it's a cheap alternative? Linux is already a cheap alternative to Windows and getting either of them to sell PCs with it pre-installed is like pulling teeth.

people know google though. probably more people aware of google stuff than os x to be fair
 
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