Google Announces 'Google Play Music All Access' Subscription Service
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saturn88
macrumors 6502
They should have called it Google> or Google! or Google$
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Google's version of iRadio launched yesterday. Apple's iRadio is still to launch. I don't know how I can be a "Hater-Troll" by pointing out that Google did go to market with this "innovation" first.
But thanks for proving one of my broader points: for some, Apple is apparently God. Say anything remotely negative about Apple and the wrath of those cheerleaders will fall upon you. And if someone makes some valid points that aren't easy to counter with blind adoration of Apple, some will indeed try to spin the thread into other arguments (like Apple vs. Android, Apple vs. Samsung, etc) while others will just resort to name calling... which does little but make you look like you might be about 12 years old.
"Hater-Troll" signing off (with a feeling like I'm supposed to write something about a Momma and army boots or similar).
I think I'm going to go get in line to replace all of my substantial Apple hardware collection with the new versions that feature Apple iRadio. If I get in line now, maybe I can be first.zanderpants930
macrumors newbie
Looks like Google really pulled ahead here. It further proves that Apple is falling seriously behind. After using All Access for 24 hours, I think the layout, search smoothness, and song selection are unreal. Apple has big shoes to fill here, but I honestly doubt they will come close.
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LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Is there an Apple users forum out there that has yet to be overrun by Google and Samsung astroturfers?
I'd love to see one.
They're just catering to the target audience that now owns this forum: the Google fanatic. Behold:
Brand new forum member. Comment that sounds suspiciously like Google PR ad copy. Hmm. You'll fit right in on this forum.
Welcome.
Renzatic
Suspended
Do you ever contribute to a discussion, or are you just here to point fingers? All I've ever seen you do is post shrill, paranoid, and completely baseless accusations any time someone says something remotely positive about Google or Samsung.
Renzatic
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Yeah, I know there are astroturfers out there, I wouldn't even surprise me if a couple have posted here before, but Laguna seems to see them in every nook and cranny around here. Even people who have been a member here since 2006 can't say ANYTHING good about Google in a Google thread without him popping up to tell everyone this forum has been taken over by bought and paid for Fandroids and so on and so on.
It's like his sole reason for hanging around on the boards these days is to tell everyone that we've been infiltrated by the Google Goons.
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...which I could be one of, you know. A Google Goon. I only rarely ever talk about Android or Google around here, and don't bash Apple over everything they do like you'd expect a good Google Goon to do. But I could be playing a long con game. Digging myself in deep, entrenching myself, getting friendly with everyone so they'll drop their guard, and thus make themselves more vulnerable to suggestion.
Like take the Galaxy S4. It isn't nearly as bad a phone as some people here make it out to be. Despite the fact that I mostly consider myself an Apple fan, and will probably continue buying their products for the foreseeable future, I do find it to be a pretty decent little device. Easily on par with the iPhone 5, in my opinion.
which I could be one of, you know. A Google Goon. I only rarely ever talk about Android or Google around here, and don't bash Apple over everything they do like you'd expect a good Google Goon to do. But I could be playing a long con game. Digging myself in deep, entrenching myself, getting friendly with everyone so they'll drop their guard, and thus make themselves more vulnerable to suggestion.
Like take the Galaxy S4. It isn't nearly as bad a phone as some people here make it out to be. Despite the fact that I mostly consider myself an Apple fan, and will probably continue buying their products for the foreseeable future, I do find it to be a pretty decent little device. Easily on par with the iPhone 5, in my opinion.
Well I agree and just to be clear, I'm not accusing anyone here. I just thought it was interesting, I saw those stories a few weeks ago and haven't found an excuse to post them.
Renzatic
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Well I agree and just to be clear, I'm not accusing anyone here. I just thought it was interesting, I saw those stories a few weeks ago and haven't found an excuse to post them.
The way I see it, unless Samsung is paying these people a ton of money, most of these astroturfers are gonna be newbies who just signed up a month ago to post "YALL R A BUNCHA STOOPID ISHEEP ANDROID 4 LYFE HUR DURK UH DURK UH DURK", then head out to get their 3 free apps or Hotpockets or whatever. At worst, they'll make a couple more dumb posts beyond that, then get banned for the effort.
But to call people who've been around for 2, 3, 5 years astroturfers or fandroids with a hidden agenda (I love how the word "agenda" gets thrown around here a bunch, makes it feel more conspiratorial)...that's just being overly dumb and paranoid.
Burger Thing
macrumors 65816
Personally I prefer to have my soundfiles locally on my device (i like lossless, have rather good earphones and travel a lot) but for those who are using the new Google Service I hope, that the software is better than the horringly crapstatic Google YouTube App on the iPad.
Can't really say that i am impressed with most of Google Software Applications.
Can't really say that i am impressed with most of Google Software Applications.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
Wait. So you want a service with unlimited listening for $5 a month AND be able to keep ten songs, when a la cart ten songs would cost $10+? Do you see why that is just a tad on the unreasonable side? I can get on board with wanting the price to stay around $5, or offering a song or two to keep at $10, but what you are asking will never happen.
einmusiker
macrumors 68040
there really is no substitute for live music. If it's not live I'm not interested
zanderpants930
macrumors newbie
Most apple fanboys on this forum simply respond with hostility to opinions and observations being made. Mostly because there is not much to respond with these days.
That being said, I used to be an Apple user, but became violently disappointed with their lack of innovation.
That being said, I used to be an Apple user, but became violently disappointed with their lack of innovation.
SmileyBlast!
macrumors 6502a
I buy 2 or 3 albums a year. $30.00. $4.99 x 12 months is $60 / year. No one would say no to that deal. You'd probably get every iPhone and iPad owner to get that deal. They would profit more than they do now.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
I don't think anyone would say no tot he deal. Except the record labels. If you are getting unlimited streaming PLUS getting to keep 10 songs a month, what's in it for the record label? Everyone would buy an iMac too if they dropped the price in half and gave you unlimited software updates, sure (or insert silly anaology here). The point is, the industry wouldn't be getting the compensation they want, thus they will never go for it.
SmileyBlast!
macrumors 6502a
The other reason I think they need to come it a price lower than $7.99 is that with Netflix you get unlimited movies for that price. A movie has a higher intrinsic value than a song. In the value for money calculations that people do $7.99 for unlimited music will not seem like a good enough deal by itself.
Also they would have to protect against sharing of user ids and passwords unlike Netflix. The other thing is there are all kinds of free music streaming services already. Now you want me to pay???!!!
"What's in it for me?", people will ask.
lordofthereef
macrumors G5
The other reason I think they need to come it a price lower than $7.99 is that with Netflix you get unlimited movies for that price. A movie has a higher intrinsic value than a song. In the value for money calculations that people do $7.99 for unlimited music will not seem like a good enough deal by itself.
Also they would have to protect against sharing of user ids and passwords unlike Netflix. The other thing is there are all kinds of free music streaming services already. Now you want me to pay???!!!
Like I said, I don't think a $4.99 price tag is unreasonable. You original stated you wanted a $4.99 price tag AND get to keep 10 songs at the end of each month. The ten songs was what I thought was unreasonable, in terms of what the record companies would go for. It would be great, no doubt, but realistically it will never happen.
Also, it's important to distinguish the types of free streaming services out there. Random songs (i.e. internet radio) is not the same as having a collection of hundreds of thousands of songs for you to pick at will. The former is generally free. The latter is always paid for, unless there is a service I am unaware of (not accounting for trials services, of course).
Uofmtiger
macrumors 68020
It is quite a bit different. Netflix does not have blockbuster movies as they are released. They go through a process of being released at the theater or made available at a high price to watch them with iTunes Movies. Then they go through a second tier of being available on PPV, Itunes, Vudu or other rental services. If you are lucky, they will then end up on Netflix at some point.The other reason I think they need to come it a price lower than $7.99 is that with Netflix you get unlimited movies for that price. A movie has a higher intrinsic value than a song. In the value for money calculations that people do $7.99 for unlimited music will not seem like a good enough deal by itself.
Also they would have to protect against sharing of user ids and passwords unlike Netflix. The other thing is there are all kinds of free music streaming services already. Now you want me to pay???!!!
With MOG (as one example), you have several albums hit the service the day they are released each week. Also, movies require you to pay closer attention, which brings down the value of the service in comparison to MOG. I can listen to MOG while driving to work, sitting at my desk all day, on my way home, while fixing dinner, while surfing the web, while jogging around the neighborhood, etc.. It can be on all the time. I may watch a movie on Netflix when I get home and settle in, if I have nothing else going on and I can find something on their service I still want to see. Not really the same thing.
Are you in the US? Serious question, I since moved (so had an existing Google Music account) and got the login page right away, but the trial button gave me that error message until I used a US VPN.
Is there seriously no way to get it on the iPhone?
The mobile browser only brought up my existing library as before, and when I clicked desktop it required Flash. Disappointing since it worked so nicely on my Nexus 7. I suppose I could try Photon etc but at this point I'd rather just use Spotify...
I WAS the one
macrumors 6502a
It isn't God my friend, it's about giving the word innovation before seeing all the products to see which one is truly innovating. Right now is another Spotify clone with some goodies. So, please don't call it innovation yet. Let's wait. OR give the title of innovation to Spotify and it will be more elegant and honest.
Spotify is a product of Apple? No. Maybe I'm failing to my religion right?
Hater-Troll
It seems that you need a credit card from an eligible country in order to sign up for the trial even if you get past the server error. Canadian with a pre-existing Google Music account here (signed up for while in the US).
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pirg
macrumors 6502a
Do you ever thumbs up or thumbs down in Pandora? I don't get how it "never plays" what you want.
I'm amazed at the things that Pandora "thinks" I'd like because it's stuff that I actually listen to all the time.
But it has to "learn" by what you thumbs up and down. Compares what you thumbs up and down with other people who do the same and creates a "genre" for you.