Hopefully Apple keeps the garden wall closed and won’t compromise it’s stance on privacy to make a few eggheads happy.
Yea, because you’d have to give up so much privacy for Siri to understand what you said.
Hopefully Apple keeps the garden wall closed and won’t compromise it’s stance on privacy to make a few eggheads happy.
Apple is about making technology more personal for the end user.
Nothing about what google has announced sounds in the least bit personal, much less like it would have been approved by Apple ever.
It feels creepy even. Having AI simulate a person’s voice? Maybe it’s not a bad thing that Apple doesn’t go down that route.
When you think about it, businesses have been doing that for some while. A company’s phone receptionist has been replaced with a recorded assistant. When you chat with online reps you’re usually interacting with a bot. None of which are as efficient as a competent human but are superior to the unskilled/uninformed ones.
Yep. Whether people like it or not, whether they know it or not, most people are already interacting with AIs. And this trend is only going to continue. Having some of your interactions with the online world via an assistant actually removes the illusion.
It’s more that I trust Apple to implement it in a manner that is socially acceptable and not creepy. They would have thought through the possible ramifications and put in place the proper countermeasures.But if they did it would suddenly be a great idea.
A iPhone 4 can do everything you really need on a phone. Do you have an iPhone 4?Siri works fine. It's not nearly as impressive, but it works for what it's meant for, and it can do everything you really need. Also, it works with more languages, doesn't it?
You know what doesn't work? Pretty much everything else in iOS 11.
When Siri responds, there is no doubt that I am talking to a computer program.
What google is doing here is making the AI voice virtually indistinguishable from a real human being. I can’t see this ending well.
I guess this is where Apple and google diverge. Apple is about the intersection between arts and tech. Google is simply about pure technological advancement. Consequences be darned.
And I am not saying this simply because this is an area Apple likely will (and can) never do. Both for technical and ethical reasons.
Apple honestly needs to can Siri and reinvent it. Similar to how they canned mobile Me and introduced iCloud.. Google assistant is literally the only thing android has over iPhone.
Now granted. It’s going to take 2 years for all androids to even get this functionality that they introduced today... so Apple has 2 years to catch up lol
I'll see when the time comes, but I am confident Apple will bring something to the table when the time is right. I am really in no rush when it comes to this stuff, plus I think privacy is a huge deal. I am good with Apple taking it's time in this area. I currently use HomeKit for smart home automation and it has been the best platform for that.
It’s more that I trust Apple to implement it in a manner that is socially acceptable and not creepy. They would have thought through the possible ramifications and put in place the proper countermeasures.
At the end of the day, I don’t think either side is wrong. Each company has their own beliefs and principles and they are each working towards their respective strengths (while avoiding the areas they are weak in). Google simply strikes me as a company who has the scale to make services and AI work, but I find that their design sometimes lacks that warmth and “common sense” that I have come to appreciate in the design of my Apple profits.
That's fair, all comes down to the individual, but it's just not reason enough (not even close) for me to switch platforms. Also, you can do this today with Siri and OpenTable. I think you may just need to press a button to confirm. Obviously, not exactly the same, but I just don't see what Google is doing here as some crazy advancement.
It’s more that I trust Apple to implement it in a manner that is socially acceptable and not creepy. They would have thought through the possible ramifications and put in place the proper countermeasures.
At the end of the day, I don’t think either side is wrong. Each company has their own beliefs and principles and they are each working towards their respective strengths (while avoiding the areas they are weak in). Google simply strikes me as a company who has the scale to make services and AI work, but I find that their design sometimes lacks that warmth and “common sense” that I have come to appreciate in the design of my Apple profits.
How do you think Apple would implement that's more socially acceptable and not creepy? In what ways would it be different from Google's implementation say for booking the examples haircut appointment and restaurant reservation? Can you deconstruct how the examples that Google provided lacks warmth and "common sense"? How do you define warmth? How do you define "common sense" for an AI communicating with a human being?
A iPhone 4 can do everything you really need on a phone. Do you have an iPhone 4?
I don't get it. People here say removing ports such as the 3.5mm headphone Jack is such a big step into the future but AI is not...its a fad. I can't even begin to understand that point of view.
How the assistant sounds doesn’t really factor into how often I use my voice assistants.I'll just say that siri isn't that natural not because Apple don't want to, but apparently because they have been unable to do it. A natural speaking assistant would skyrocket its usage.
Seriously would you rather talk to a robotic voice all day long? It's super anoying.
"D-O___Y-O-U___W-A-N-T___M-E ___T-O___C-R-E-A-T-E ___A ___N-E-W___A-P-P-O-I-N-T-M-E-N-T___F-O-R___Y-O-U?"
That is beyond clever and scary at the same time.Unbelievable. Google is so far ahead it's embarrassing.
Google assistant calls to make appointment - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44049181
Really impressive! Siri is so far behind.The google assistant appointment demos were seriously some of the most impressive demos I have seen in a while. A little creepy how realistic it handed the conversation.
I never understand why people defend features on something they have, even when poor. I have an iPhone SE, an Apple Watch. They are great. Siri though, sucks! It's awful! Compared to my Redmi 5A, the iPhone sucks! No automatic turn off the phone, turn on the phone. No football score notifications, time to travel, etc. My iPhone 4S used to do that but not anymore. Siri has become worse! The Apple Watch. Compared to my amazfit BIP Battery life sucks, HR isn't every min, no sleep tracking, etc. I am not going to defend just because I have one.Profits? Was that a Freudian slip?
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It’s defined as warmth and common sense = Apple and creepy = Google. Doesn’t matter what’s being discussed. As soon as Siri can do the same thing, what is creepy for Google will suddenly be warm and filled with common sense...because Apple.
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It’s called the Fanboy point of view. Nothing about it is logical or makes sense. Bottom line, Apple is failing miserably at the innovation game and Apple fans are in full on denial/defense mode.
I haven’t tried other home automation platforms yet, but I’m quite disappointed with the actual automation capabilities of HomeKit. I have an Elgato Eve Door & Window sensor and while I can trigger some automations with events triggered by opening or closing the window, the list of events is quite restricted. I’d like to set a timer that reminds me to close the window after a certain time of being open or alert me if it’s open when I’m about to leave. But no, that doesn’t seem to be possible right now. It’s sad if that’s the best there is right now and I don’t think that’s the case.
Did you listen to the calls Assistant made? It’s nothing like Siri and OpenTable. Not remotely close. Assistant manages to have a basic conversation, understand pauses, repeats information when asked, etc. Nothing Apple offers or has demonstrated comes close. I haven’t been impressed by any tech company in recent years. Lots of iteration and evolution, but what Google demonstrated with Assistant today was revolutionary.