Google CEO Suggests iOS 19 Will Feature Built-In Gemini Integration

[killhippie]

Why did Apple just not creat their own AI. Ive reached the point I’ll keep my Mac and iPad but I’m moving on from iPhones I have no interest in iOS 19 and Gemini. Also having used Android 14 on a Samsung that would do me fine and I never thought I would say that. In fact moving away from US made goods might be better for me all together eventually.

 

[ipedro]

Look, Gemini sucks (I have to use it for work since we're on Google Workspace) but I welcome user defined service choices and that this is how Apple needs to handle AI assistants until they can build a Siri that can compete.

Handle it like they do search engines, the user picks which one they want to use. chatGPT is the only option in iOS 18 but going forward, having multiple to choose from leaves it to individual user preference — including no AI at all.

 

[arc of the universe]

im not sure about how apple would integrate it into the OS of the iPhone, but,
when i do net searches on apple devices many times these days (not always though) google search results come back showing that google used its Gemini system.

these Gemini results have all (100%) been excellent. every time all the time that they have been tagged as coming through Gemini.
so whatever Gemini is doing, yes, i want it as a part of iOS. its that good.

 

[BuffaloTF]

So embarrassing that Apple needs multiple outside help.

Not only has Apple been incompetent to release a Siri 1/5 as capable as 1-3 year old AI/LLMs, it's so incompetent it can't even tell people when it can release an updated Siri, and even when it tells people when it will release an updated Siri, it can't meet the date.

Uhh. It’s embarrassing that they’re keeping Siri on-device only and doing exactly what they’ve promised they would do by offering off-ramps to send a query to the web with your explicit permission and with no preferential treatment given to any one LLM, giving you user choice?

What bizarro world did I wake up in…

 

[applefan8254]

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[GeezGlitch]

Apple has no choice, they either integrate ChatGPT deeply into iOS or go with Gemini. Right now, Apple doesn't have its own fully developed in-house AI or "Apple Intelligence." This is where Steve Jobs was far ahead of Tim Cook; Steve would’ve redirected the company’s entire focus and introduced a device built from the ground up to handle AI tasks natively, seamlessly integrated into the phone—minimizing the need for users to open apps at all.

 

[TechWhisperer]

Hell to the no!!!

 

[uacd]

The worst AI model out there and has outdated data (and it is made by Google, a search giant!), would parse web only if you ask it nicely. Also it is totally incapable of analysis, max it can do is some poor comparison. I don’t understand why would anyone choose that over any of OpenAI’s models

 

[The Game 161]

Been rumoured for a while

 

[The Game 161]

C'Mon who even uses Gemini???

Most people who want a good assistant

 

[The Game 161]

Yes please. I miss circle to search so much when I am on my iPhone, especially the auto translate of anything that is currently on the screen but who am I kidding, Apple will probably limit it to what it could potentially do

This has nothing to do with circle to search

And you can get that with a shortcut

 

[miq]

if you’re trying to destroy your legacy in efforts to throw money into the garbage fire that is AI - i’ll just go back to a dumb phone and only use an ipad at home.

No you won’t lol

 

[JosephAW]

Stop using Google several years ago

 

[DownUnderDan]

So embarrassing that Apple needs multiple outside help.

Not only has Apple been incompetent to release a Siri 1/5 as capable as 1-3 year old AI/LLMs, it's so incompetent it can't even tell people when it can release an updated Siri, and even when it tells people when it will release an updated Siri, it can't meet the date.

Well when your most successul new idea was clever price tiering for shareholder value (aka bigger exec bonuses) over investing in your products and people, this happens.

 

[dominiongamma]

Please, for the love of all things holy, don't do it.

Then speak for yourself because a lot of people want this, the tech forum users do not represent the average user.

 

[2DeedleD]

My guess is that what will actually be provided is a generic set of APIs that anyone can plug into to "replace/augment" Siri functionality. This solves a few different problems for Apple

- it prevents the inevitable lawsuits from the EU lunatics about market monopoly

- it allows anyone who feels that Siri is not good enough (and who doesn't care about the likely side effects of a Siri replacement, whether those are privacy, increased power usage or increased cellular usage) to replace Siri. This matches how something like Apple Maps played out, with Apple able to say that the greate advantage of iOS was you could choose best of class, however you chose to define that.

- this avoids them having to bet on any particular AI alternative (Gemini vs OpenAI vs Claude vs Grok vs ...) and then look bad if something happens (that model falls behind? there is some sort of stupid scandal involving the company? whatever)

Excellent and undeniable points made. Very probable this will be the route that they take with Siri.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

Just like making Google Search the default on iOS, the decision to integrate Gemini would be based on how profitable the bribe deal is.

And we all know Timmy loves money more than anything else.

 

[akatsuki]

Why can't I choose my AI engine the same way I choose my search? If I pay for ChatGPT I would rather use that. If I want Claude or I would rather send my data to China and use DeepSeek, let me make that choice...

 

[dominiongamma]

Why can't I choose my AI engine the same way I choose my search? If I pay for ChatGPT I would rather use that. If I want Claude or I would rather send my data to China and use DeepSeek, let me make that choice...

This would make sense but users on here don’t want users to have options which is sad. I don’t want to use Siri I rather use Gemini, however I wouldn’t want to restrict someone’s choice.

 

[Dark_Omen]

I suppose I am one of those “clowns” - you know, some people find these capabilities helpful, others don’t - why do you feel compelled to call those who do t want genAI names?

Doesn't matter if you find the capabilities useful or not. Fact is, Siri is still a joke, and the quality of software would be improved if it was replaced entirely by Gemini. Even if you don't use Gemini, it's still more useful than Siri and would look better for PR.

 

[IJustWannaTalk]

Oh hell no. Please no. Enough with the forced AI crap.

 

[eifelbube]

370 million users

Oooh … that is a lot. That increases the likelihood that there would be a sufficiently large sample to conduct a study on the effects of eating a small rock every day 😊 (see Switcher’s comment above)

 

[imtoretto]

the is an embarrassment for Apple...
Apple "intelligence" isn't intelligent as they worshipped during the the keynote last year LOL.
the loyal consumer should've of boycott it for the false advertisement and get rewarded; I know the loyal sheeps even agreed that they got robbed and still are okay with it, that's the problem, that's sad....

 

[FatLouie]

Damn! Is Tim Cook the Steve Balmer of Apple? Like DrPeril, I wish the tech world would get over the AI boner and, if it is going to be on my phone or iPad, make it unloadable or make it opt in. I intentionally bought the iPhone 15+ just to avoid the AI nonsense. My iPad Pro M4 will not be so lucky....grrrrr.

 

[novagamer]

Apple will not outsource this forever. Be patient, pulling back personalized Siri was the first smart thing they've done in this area outside of Private Cloud Compute. Just turn it off for now if you don't want a third party gobbling your data.