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Google Chairman Eric Schmidt: Competition Between Apple and Google is More Brutal Than Ever

I appreciate the way that Google and Android products drive Apple to be better.

But until they actually start living up to their motto 'don't be evil' again, I will not be using their handsets and will be limiting my use of their other products.
 
PsykX said:
Everybody I've argued with says the same thing : well this Samsung phone had Touch ID, this other Samsung phone had the speed, this other Samsung phone has the display, this other Samsung phone had the best camera, etc. but it's never all in ONE specific phone.

So what's worth fighting for ?
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You did forget one thing off your list - customer service.

i.e. I called up Samsung Warranty Support due to problems with two Note 3's in my family, they determined both of my Note 3's had hardware problems, and gave me an address to mail the phones to with a 10 day SLA upon receipt before they would be mailed back. I could return the same Apple product 2-3 times in what it takes Samsung to do once!!

Apple products are not problem free, but their support system 999 times out of 1000 will beat Samsung any day of the week.
 
He seems like a real creep... and he weirdly has a foot in the camp of the big three cell phone companies - stole iOS, manages Google, uses a Blackberry.
 
This guy is such an asshat, trying to position ****ing Google with Apple. They are nothing alike, and there's no competition to Apple from Google. Schmidt is a pig-eyed assbag who thinks he's relevant. He's about as relevant as Ballmer.
 
Solver said:
"Samsung had these products a year ago"

I don't seem to remember a high end android phone as thin, lite and with a build quality like the iphone 6.
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Yeah this is silly. This only relates to screen size and nothing else.
 
Although Schmidt calls the competition with Apple "brutal," I think he takes solace in the fact that Google and Apple OWN the smartphone industry. Google owns the low-end and mid-range and Apple owns the high-end.

I think Google likes the fact that Microsoft is left out for dead in this industry. He seems to enjoy the competitiveness with Apple and he says the consumer wins in the end because of the push to be the best.

In some ways, I agree with him. Time will tell.
 
Bill Killer said:
They already use their own in-house search algorithms for Apple Maps POIs. It sucks.
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That doesn't mean their own algorithms will always suck. I am sure they are working on it. Like I said. They won't be replacing Google search anytime soon. No one will. but they will make us use our gadgets in such a way that we use google search less.
 
Solver said:
"Samsung had these products a year ago"

I don't seem to remember a high end android phone as thin, lite and with a build quality like the iphone 6.
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You are joking, right?

If not, ever heard of #BendGate ?

iPhone 6 is built using cheap and thin beer-can aluminium.
All in the name of increasing Apple's already obscene profit margins.
 
teknikal90 said:
To be fair....
everything that is 'essential' on the iphone 6, with the exception to the touchID was on samsung first....

Apple basically took the s4 (which, in my opinion is flawed, both in the quality of its hardware, ecosystem and operating system) and made it near perfect with the iphone 6.

The game which schmidt is alluding to is the 'one-up' game that is indeed going on. One does something different, the other takes it makes it better...then vice versa.

But make no mistake, this generation round, the 'first' one to the party that brought something new and different was Samsung.

Apple was 'first' on the iPhone 4 generation. Ignored the competition somewhat with the iPhone 5 generation then played catch-up with the iPhone 6.
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NOPE, samsung didn't do phablets first, they merely had success as a brand at the same time they released theirs. Look up history of phablets (god i hate that word) and you'll see samsung only ever copied the trend.

Apple were behind in consumers eyes with the size offerings thats very true but I don't see how they took one phone especially singling out a samsung phone as their inspiration for that trend.

This whole thing reminds me of DSLR trends, the bigger the better the model but there was no reason for the size increase at all. The designs are ridiculous and most camera bodies are mostly free space now. The larger phone thing is mostly a trend that is ending and the market will flatten back out to have a range of sizes to suit. Bigger is not always better,
 
Solver said:
"Samsung had these products a year ago"

I don't seem to remember a high end android phone as thin, lite and with a build quality like the iphone 6.
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I've bought a few Android phones and have never had any problems with them, even dropped them and sat on them, no bending no breaking.

If I bought a $100 Android phone with the same build quality as the latest iPhones and all the OS problems, I would be returning them.

I don't think Google is going to have competition for much longer, Apple looks like it's burying itself.
 
RockSpider said:
I've bought a few Android phones and have never had any problems with them, even dropped them and sat on them, no bending no breaking.

If I bought a $100 Android phone with the same build quality as the latest iPhones and all the OS problems, I would be returning them.

I don't think Google is going to have competition for much longer, Apple looks like it's burying itself.
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Hahahahaha! With Every year & every release of the iPhone, comes all these "Apple is doomed" BS rants...it's so cliché already smh. I'm surprised you didn't say "Steve would have never allowed this" that's the newest one...uuuugh!
 
RubeHefner said:
Hahahahaha! With Every year & every release of the iPhone, comes all these "Apple is doomed" BS rants...it's so cliché already smh. I'm surprised you didn't say "Steve would have never allowed this" that's the newest one...uuuugh!
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I wouldn't laugh too much, the bigger they are the harder they fall. Don't forget the reason they panicked to make big phones, and boy did they panick, have a look at the mess.

Now you've got to buy 2 iPhones, one to keep as a spare in case the other one bends, breaks or just becomes bricked.
 
babaroga73 said:
Now , what the hell is bandgate and ios8 gate now , then?

By bandgate , do you mean U2 thing, or that few poor souls that doesn't
understand properties of alluminium ?
And by that , I mean they spewed 4-6 millions of phones, so few of them
went on a wedding, got drunk, and went on an iPhone 6 bender ..

By updategate, do you mean that thing with 8.0.1 that happen just now, and how is it a gate already?

By iOS8 gate , do you mean that my 2yr old iPhone 5 is working flawlessly on iOS 8.0 , or is this some thing I don't know about ?

How about that samsung Apple gate gate, that somebody tries to produce nonexisting gate gates all the time ?

How about when you buy Samsung S5 of 16 gigs - you get 8.5 gigs free ?

How is that never a gate ??

You tell me now !
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Oh it's a gate. Giga-gate! :cool:
 
More and more, I've been using Duck Duck Go. Slowly, but surely, I am minimizing my dependence on Google. I'll still use Google Voice and Gmail, but trying to minimize everything else.
 
ice cream is yummy

I'm not impressed by Google or Apple until one of them can engineer healthy ice cream. I want to delicious eat ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and lose weight by doing so. You want bragging rights? There's your ticket. Now stop arguing over who invented the 3.5" screen or the 4" screen or the 4.7" screen or the 5.1" screen or the 5.5" screen...
 
Racing? Ha Ha...right.

Apple is racing to get new products out that improve people's lives and Google is racing to copy them and figure out ways to get more of your personal info.

Is Eric Schmidt Satan? :eek: (or just a NSA shill?)
 
rmendol1 said:
Have you ever even used Android OS? Browsing crashes lagging was much more common on my iOS iPad then my Kitkat Nexus. I'll like both OS for development but man some of you fanboys are so close minded...
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Yeah, the Nexus 2013 w/Kitkat is an impressive design effort (and the display slays that of the Retina iPad mini). It's great to have a competitor to Apple that doesn't suck like Windows did in the 90s.

I really hope Android L fixes the achilles heel of Android: stability. My Nexus 2013 randomly restarts itself everytime I use it. I still want an iPad - maybe if the next Air is light enough I'll get it. It's already exceptionally light, but with carpal tunnel syndrom I need even less weight. No way will I buy an iPad mini as long as Apple gimps the display.

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JCrz said:
I'm not impressed by Google or Apple until one of them can engineer healthy ice cream. I want to delicious eat ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and lose weight by doing so. You want bragging rights? There's your ticket. Now stop arguing over who invented the 3.5" screen or the 4" screen or the 4.7" screen or the 5.1" screen or the 5.5" screen...
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Why not become an ice cream fanboi so you can eat as much as you like without fear of weight gain? Oh, others may snigger behind your back, and your scale may lose its calibration, but you will know with absolute certainty that your weight is going down.
 
jeffe said:
Does Apple really sell more iPhone's than all the Android flagships combined? Kudos to them if that is true.
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I doubt it... but is there some contest I'm unaware of?

I think first we'd have to define what a "flagship" is.

Samsung sold a total of 74 million smartphones last quarter. How many of them were flagships?

The next highest Android OEM was Huawei who sold a total of 20 million smartphones. But again... how many of them were flagships?

And it goes on and on... there are about 40 manufacturers of Android phones... resulting in about 230 million total Android smartphones sold last quarter.

Yet no one knows how many of them were flagships.

The earlier comment referenced Apple owning the "high-end" but we'd have to define that too.

Would that mean any smartphone selling for $500 and up?

If that's the case... I could definitely see Apple in that bracket since their phones start at $500 and they happen to sell a lot of them. (the iPhone's average selling price is above $600 currently)

It would be interesting to see how many of those 230 million Android phones sold last quarter retailed above $500. There are hundreds of Android phones on the market... but I think most of them are sold far below $500. (Android's average selling price is actually below $300 at the moment)

Android's sheer volume of sales might mean that there are actually more Android flagships sold than iPhones.

But the question is... does that really mean anything outside of arguing on forums?
 
12vElectronics said:
Why don't people like Schmidt?
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Have you ever seen him interview guests on 'Talks at Google'? He doesn't listen to what his guests say, doesn't appropriately respond to their statements, interrupts them in mid sentence to talk about himself and Google, and constantly hypes Google cr@p during interviews.

That kind of behavior is not a results of bad interview skills but is borne out of his personality.
 
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jarofclay73 said:
Google owns the low-end and mid-range and Apple owns the high-end.
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I don't see how that's possible given that Apple only released high end devices a few days ago. Like it or not, part of what defines a high end smartphone is a humongous display.

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Michael Scrip said:
I doubt it... but is there some contest I'm unaware of?

I think first we'd have to define what a "flagship" is.

Samsung sold a total of 74 million smartphones last quarter. How many of them were flagships?

The next highest Android OEM was Huawei who sold a total of 20 million smartphones. But again... how many of them were flagships?

And it goes on and on... there are about 40 manufacturers of Android phones... resulting in about 230 million total Android smartphones sold last quarter.

Yet no one knows how many of them were flagships.

The earlier comment referenced Apple owning the "high-end" but we'd have to define that too.

Would that mean any smartphone selling for $500 and up?

If that's the case... I could definitely see Apple in that bracket since their phones start at $500 and they happen to sell a lot of them. (the iPhone's average selling price is above $600 currently)

It would be interesting to see how many of those 230 million Android phones sold last quarter retailed above $500. There are hundreds of Android phones on the market... but I think most of them are sold far below $500. (Android's average selling price is actually below $300 at the moment)

Android's sheer volume of sales might mean that there are actually more Android flagships sold than iPhones.

But the question is... does that really mean anything outside of arguing on forums?
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It means Android will draw more developers than before. If they capture enough marketshare, killer apps may start to appear that are Android-only. Thats a long ways off but it could happen if Apple self-destructs.
 
Solver said:
"Samsung had these products a year ago"

I don't seem to remember a high end android phone as thin, lite and with a build quality like the iphone 6.
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There's a reason for that... thin, light phones with build quality like the iPhone 6 BEND easily. :p
 
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