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I haven't been impressed at the Android phones that I've tried. I've used an S3 a couple of times, and apps kept crashing. Prior to iOS7, I don't think my iPhone ever crashed. Now they've seemed to have worked out most of the bugs from iOS7, and I'm sure it'll be well polished under iOS8. Big chances invariably cause a few hiccups.

The problem with switching phones is that most carriers lock you into a 2-year agreement, at least for the fully subsidized price. That's a huge commitment. I'm fully happy with my iPhone, and Apple has been more than generous in replacing broken ones for free over the years. There's simply no reason to take the risk to switch when the switched-to product is likely worse. The next iPhone is likely to have a larger screen size, so the last real competitive advantage of Android will soon be gone.

Also, I don't know about you guys, but I've enjoyed great resale value for my iPhones over the years. This allows me to upgrade yearly at very little cost. Maybe some of the higher-quality Nexus phones also have high resale values, but I don't think most run of the mill Android phone do.
 
As disappointing as iOS 7 is to me I can't bring myself to buy an Android phone. When a company's main source of revenue is from targeted ads you have to question their motives behind wanting an OS in the first place.

It's telling that the first instruction is "log in with your personal gmail account".

Google doesn't even make (much) money when you buy an Android phone, unless it's a Google branded device. They want you to use Android so they can gather up more of your personal data.
 
How many of your apps still work under IOS 7? Give it enough time with developers not updating apps and the investment slowly disappears any way.

I have 15,000 apps, would be nice if Apple added a compatibility mode to run apps that developers gave up on.

My experience so far with IOS 7(Buggiest release ever) and Apple being so slow to release a big phone makes me forget my app investment on my Phone. As far as the iPad I can still use it till it dies.

I have more work now than did with iOS 6. By the end of that OS a lot of my app developers gave up but with iOS 7 have come back with updates. Sure some apps get left behind and it sucks but I find a lot of them were the really bad apps anyway, those that we needed and wanted to work well but even when supported still bugged out more than they worked and made you think a monkey could create a better UI.
 
It's awkward how can someone truly convince anyone to make the switch if he knows how to use an iPhone so well. He might be accustomed to it., you know...

Safer: We don't need to hack around the browser restrictions, so we won't cop another fine for being evil.

Better: Because we need to earn the revenue, not Apple. {damn it our bluff with maps really screwed us}


See, safer and better.

You forgot to mention stellar battery performance.
 
After switching from iOS to Android, I therefore conclude that iOS is far more superior than Android. Jellybean 4.3 is so buggy, this OS is definitely built for idiots like Eric Schmidt who knows how to copy not to innovate.:D
 
Whether you’re an Apple person or a Google person, you have to admit, he’s a traitor.

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Agreed... Lapped up Apple's ideas while on the board and used them against us.

Samsung's the same. We pay them BILLIONS to be a rich parts manufucturer but they want MORE. They use the same parts to make almost identical phones that compete with us.
 
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Google Chairman Eric Schmidt has posted a multi-step guide on switching from Apple's iPhone to an Android device on his Google+ page today, refreshing the rivalry between the two companies as of late. While the guide itself appears to be relatively basic in nature, Schmidt instructs both PC and Mac users on how to move to Android, and also makes recommendations for various Google utilities like Chrome over Apple programs such as Safari. Named to Apple's board of directors in August 2006, Schmidt resigned from his position in August 2009 due to conflicts of interest amid the growing competition Google and Apple. While the chairman said that Android was "pretty clearly" winning the mobile war with Apple in December 2012, Schmidt stated last July that the relationship between the two companies was "improving". However, the executive also prompted a bit of laughter from a crowd last month when he stated that Android is "more secure than the iPhone."


Article Link: Google Chairman Eric Schmidt Posts Guide on Converting to Android from iPhone


is Google so desperate to gain marketshare that its CEO has to do this kind of pathetic campaign ?
 
Agreed... Lapped up Apple's ideas while on the board and used them against us.

Samsung's the same. We pay them BILLIONS to be a rich parts manufucturer but they want MORE. They use the same parts to make almost identical phones that compete with us.

*Us*, *compete with US", "WE pay".. man don't go that far.
Do you work at Apple?

I have a friend with S4, he recognizes iOS has a more fluid interface and animations, the S4 has frame drops, the interface sucks it's not that usable, and screen it's a matter of tastes. The iOS6 design had some details that have disappeared on iOS7 but it's not that bad and you get used to it. And the apps and phones have a better design.
Also, you don't get to program in Java and iOS it's so optimized.
 
Android is a great choice for people who like a slower phone with fewer software choices and a much wider access to malware. It's also a great phone for fans of shorter battery life. I'm sorry but Android is way ahead when it comes to 32 bits. Not everyone wants a cutting edge 64 bit OS like Apple's. Finally remember that not everyone wants a state of the art fingerprint recognition system. Android is really a better fit for people who love to share all their internet activity and the content of their every email with Google. Apple is limited in its ability to be spied on. Apples iMessages can't even be read by the government. Also Apple is not the right choice or people who just hate the idea of bringing back manufacturing jobs to America. Just saying. Not every phone is right for every person lol.

LOL, your insane if you think the government cannot read your iMessages.
 
I just had a friend switch to an s4 from iPhone I told her she'd be back it's not easy to switch to android when all you've known is iPhone......took 10 days....she just got a 5S lol

It took me slightly longer - 6 months. I ditched the iPhone 4 for a Nexus 4 and then bought an iPhone 5 after I realised my error. A friend of mine only ever owned Android and moved over with me. We don't share Schmidt's point of view, given how much of a pain it is owning several Android apps to do the job of one or zero iPhone apps.
 

It's tough for me to discern in which way you're being sexist. Either you are trying to emphasise the fact that women are not capable of something as 'complicated and advanced' as Android and therefore stick with iOS, OR you're going completely the opposite direction and emphasising women's 'superiour' decision-making skills in selecting an iPhone over an Android. Either way, this line of argument is so painfully stale.
 
There are iSheeps then there are iZombies - pick your litter :rolleyes:

iPhone's dual core 1.4GHz drives windows 3.1-esque interface and operating system.

Quad core 2.3GHz Krait 400 for a real computing platform. If you can't see that, then stick with your iPhone.

Next thing we'll hear is iPhone 6 with 4.5" screen, extra row of icons on home screen, same 4 icon dock, and you girls jump for joy!

You Noob! For you to think that the amount of cores and clocks determines overall performance, well, I feel sorry for you :)
Both the overall CPU and GPU performance is much greater on the 5S than any other smart phone out there. The GPU tops out at around 115Gflops, the closest thing android devices have to that is their Tegra 4, which outputs at around 78Gflops. That is just 1 measurement of performance, and all the others tell the same story; the iPhones dual core, lower clocked, processor destroys all other Android devices. End of story.

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is Google so desperate to gain marketshare that its CEO has to do this kind of pathetic campaign ?

He seams to be acting like a child.

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What is not true about it?

If you want to comment on YouTube now, you have to have a g+ account. That is how google is elevating the level of comments, because everything you write on YouTube becomes part of your g+ stream. Less anonymity and more people behave themselves.

Youtube and G+ are now the same thing.

YouTube is crap now. Constant bugs on the mobile in browser version, can't clear history if your not logged in on the app version, videos stop buffering when you skip along on the desktop version/change the resolution/ look at it the wrong way.
 
Honestly, if I wasn't so invested in the Apple ecosystem (MBA, iPad Mini, Mac Mini, etc.), I'd probably go for one of these newer Android phones. They seem really nice.

Not that I am recommending a switch — but I see no reason why you couldn't have an Android next to your MBA/iPad/Mini. Even iCloud mail (if you use that) on Android shouldn't pose a problem.

If you feel like switching to Android. Do it — it shouldn't be hard. And if you want to switch back from Android to iOS — it shouldn't be hard either.
Both phones will work just fine with all your other Apple gear.
 
After six years on iOS I'm very tempted to switch over to Android something which I never thought I'd say.
iOS 7 and the changes in iTunes are driving me to switch.
The music app in iOS 7 is awful and feels like it was never fully thought out. I want the choice to view the artist as a list not as 4 at a time pictures. And my biggest gripe is not being able to play all song by an artist alphabetically like before.
I used to like iTunes it did everything that I wanted. But now losing cover flow, losing mail to iPhone sync and books now having to be in iBooks I give up.
Apple seems to be removing features and heading in a direction that I'm not keen on.
 
I haven't been impressed at the Android phones that I've tried. I've used an S3 a couple of times, and apps kept crashing. Prior to iOS7, I don't think my iPhone ever crashed. Now they've seemed to have worked out most of the bugs from iOS7, and I'm sure it'll be well polished under iOS8. Big chances invariably cause a few hiccups.

The problem with switching phones is that most carriers lock you into a 2-year agreement, at least for the fully subsidized price. That's a huge commitment. I'm fully happy with my iPhone, and Apple has been more than generous in replacing broken ones for free over the years. There's simply no reason to take the risk to switch when the switched-to product is likely worse. The next iPhone is likely to have a larger screen size, so the last real competitive advantage of Android will soon be gone.

Also, I don't know about you guys, but I've enjoyed great resale value for my iPhones over the years. This allows me to upgrade yearly at very little cost. Maybe some of the higher-quality Nexus phones also have high resale values, but I don't think most run of the mill Android phone do.

Be real, 80 percent of Smart phone users don't agree with you. Apple users represent just 12 percent, Android 80 percent. Be happy with the choice you made. I like my 5S just find but respect the fact that I am in a minority.
 
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The problem with switching phones is that most carriers lock you into a 2-year agreement, at least for the fully subsidized price. That's a huge commitment. I'm fully happy with my iPhone, and Apple has been more than generous in replacing broken ones for free over the years. There's simply no reason to take the risk to switch when the switched-to product is likely worse. The next iPhone is likely to have a larger screen size, so the last real competitive advantage of Android will soon be gone.

Also, I don't know about you guys, but I've enjoyed great resale value for my iPhones over the years. This allows me to upgrade yearly at very little cost. Maybe some of the higher-quality Nexus phones also have high resale values, but I don't think most run of the mill Android phone do.

This is one of the reasons I switched to the Nexus 5. I didn't really want an iPhone 5s, something unappealing about it. But I wanted to keep my contract open for the next iPhone. $350 brand new Nexus 5 unlocked seemed like a great deal for me, especially when I could sell my iPhone 5 for more.

Now if Apple does end up releasing a bigger iPhone, which they probably will, not everyone will be happy. I'd take the screen size of the iPhone 5 any day over the screen size of my Nexus 5. Cook may have a better personality, but it seems like he's just as innovative as Samsung....
 
If someone gave me an Android phone for Christmas, at this point, I'd honestly ask them "why the hell would you get me this?"

I've been an iPhone user since around late 2008, however have been curious several times about android and have given it several tries. HTC EVO, Samsung Galaxy S3, Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One. I have rooted and unlocked, s-off'd(HTC) every single one, except S4, to customize it even more.

And each time I have regretted straying from iPhone. iPhone may not have the biggest screen, or the super specs of other phones, but it does everything better, in my opinion.

And when it comes down to it, they do the same thing. Make calls, browse the web, emails, etc. And iPhones do it all better. The only thing iPhone doesn't have that it really needs to get is widgets. I've found them to be very useful on Android.

But yeah. I don't like Android. I've given it several tries. And it's not like I don't know how to use it. I do. But I still don't like it.

Apple needs to make an HTC One-like phone. It's really a gorgeous phone. The only problem is, it runs Android.
 
There is further integration into the OSX than just iTunes.

Considering that a majority of iOS's integration with the Mac is done via iTunes which is also available for Windows, I'm puzzled by why Windows would be any less convenient.

Regardless, if my only computing choices were Windows and Android, I'd probably just give up on technology altogether. Who wants to babysit their computing devices that much?

But you wouldn't have the integration then. Android doesn't exactly integrate with Windows or Linux.

I wouldn't be losing much. I hardly ever use iTunes but still get a good level of integration due to OSX with the iPhone.
 
If someone gave me an Android phone for Christmas, at this point, I'd honestly ask them "why the hell would you get me this?"

I've been an iPhone user since around late 2008, however have been curious several times about android and have given it several tries. HTC EVO, Samsung Galaxy S3, Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One. I have rooted and unlocked, s-off'd(HTC) every single one, except S4, to customize it even more.

And each time I have regretted straying from iPhone. iPhone may not have the biggest screen, or the super specs of other phones, but it does everything better, in my opinion.

And when it comes down to it, they do the same thing. Make calls, browse the web, emails, etc. And iPhones do it all better. The only thing iPhone doesn't have that it really needs to get is widgets. I've found them to be very useful on Android.

But yeah. I don't like Android. I've given it several tries. And it's not like I don't know how to use it. I do. But I still don't like it.

Apple needs to make an HTC One-like phone. It's really a gorgeous phone. The only problem is, it runs Android.

Only if I can choose which to have and turn them off if I want. They not only drain battery but I'm sure effect performance just like the early days ( and current at times ) days of Firefox.

The one thing I think Apple needs to give is an actual file system. Would shut up android users as their ui is so counter intuitive it takes an age to find.
 
Step 1: Install Antivirus

Lets talk about an OS then...

1. It's foundation is a Unix-like OS with more than 20 years of history
2. Whilst the core of the OS is open source, Some higher lever components are proprietary
3. Unless you explicitly allow it, the OS will only allow you to install applications from the application store.
4. Direct root access is disabled by default, but can be accessed if required.
5. The OS does not compromise functionality for the sake of being completely locked down - although there are reasonable safeguards, it will not protect the system if you go out of your way to do something stupid.
6. Given the number of users and applications available, malware is disproportionately rare.
7. Applications can take advantage of sandboxing to increase isolation.
8. It has built in malware protection.
9. Like any platform for which any malware could be available, there are companies which are willing to produce software to "mitigate" these threats, regardless of how rare they are in the wild. These same companies then produce "studies" aimed at scaring users into purchasing their software.

Yes, that's right, i'm talking about Android but each and every one of these points is also completely applicable to OS X as well.

Strangely enough, I've been running OS X for a decade and Android for 5 years and i've never experienced any malware problems. :rolleyes:

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
 
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Apple needs to make an HTC One-like phone. It's really a gorgeous phone. The only problem is, it runs Android.

HTC One looks like a small iPad 1. I love it visually.

I wouldn't be losing much. I hardly ever use iTunes but still get a good level of integration due to OSX with the iPhone.

Me neither. I rarely even fire up iTunes anymore for the purposes of iPhone. Usually just when I restore or do a backup to be honest.
 
Agreed... Lapped up Apple's ideas while on the board and used them against us.

Samsung's the same. We pay them BILLIONS to be a rich parts manufucturer but they want MORE. They use the same parts to make almost identical phones that compete with us.

Us? Are you an Apple employee? :confused:
 
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