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There really are some true 'fan boys' in this thread with the talk of needing an anti-virus (you don't) or Android being laggy (it isn't). Loved my previous iPhones, but the Nexus phones are were it's at right now. I'll think long and hard about going back once the screen size is increased, but until then I have no desire.

For those that are afraid of Mac/Android integration, don't be. I can still 'facetime' with my wife who has a 5 just fine through the Hangouts app on both phones. I can even sync my photos with iPhoto through Dropbox. My calendar is synced with my MBP (and wife's iPhone) as well via Smoothsync.
 
Hahaha no iPhone user would ever be happy with an Android phone for Christmas. And it's kind of expensive to buy someone a Samsdung phone as a joke present. I'm pretty sure Schmidt is just trolling people now. He knows no real Apple fan will ever buy into Android.
 
There really are some true 'fan boys' in this thread with the talk of needing an anti-virus (you don't) or Android being laggy (it isn't). Loved my previous iPhones, but the Nexus phones are were it's at right now. I'll think long and hard about going back once the screen size is increased, but until then I have no desire.

For those that are afraid of Mac/Android integration, don't be. I can still 'facetime' with my wife who has a 5 just fine through the Hangouts app on both phones. I can even sync my photos with iPhoto through Dropbox. My calendar is synced with my MBP (and wife's iPhone) as well via Smoothsync.

Someone in this thread mentioned that either the Nexus 4 or the Nexus 5 was laggy has obviously never tried one. Those things are super fast Ian's as fast or if not faster than the iPhone 5S. There is no lag on the Nexus phones.
 
Does this web usage statistics include app usage and gaming? Isn't it web browsing?

AFAIK the stats include all hits on web servers from the OS in question, whether from a browser or another app (there are separate stats per browser) and it's across all devices with the OS (i.e. it's all iOS devices and all Android devices, not just phones).

If it's only web browsing it shows that iOS users surf the web more than Android users. But unless app usage are included I can't understand how you can come to the conclusion from this statistics that Android users don't use their phones as smartphones. In my mind using a phone as a smartphone is much more using apps/games than browsing the web.

I use apps to read news, play games, read mails and use lots of apps on my iPhone. But I rarely do plain web browsing. Does this mean I'm not using my iPhone as a smartphone?

Of course not, although I don't think anyone would argue that me playing a lot of Snake on my old Nokia 6310i made it a smartphone ;). It's not a perfect measure (nothing will be) but I think it's a better indication than pure market share of what devices people are really using as more than feature phones.
 
There are iSheeps then there are iZombies - pick your litter :rolleyes:

iPhone's dual core 1.4GHz drives windows 3.1-esque interface and operating system.

Quad core 2.3GHz Krait 400 for a real computing platform. If you can't see that, then stick with your iPhone.

Next thing we'll hear is iPhone 6 with 4.5" screen, extra row of icons on home screen, same 4 icon dock, and you girls jump for joy!

No, you don't need that much extra power for the features you mentioned. iOS excludes them not because of performance reasons, but simply because such options are irrelevant for most customers and they'd rather not waste development time on features used by a tiny fraction of the population. Most people don't need a phone that they can root, run custom ROMs on, and spend two years simply browsing the various settings… they need a phone that does its job pretty well and can run apps. The only reason Android has the foothold it has now is because of its overwhelming presence in the low-end market and Samsung's hamfisted PR campaigns.

As far as performance goes, just about any Linux distribution will make Android look like a pig and run circles around it running on the same hardware. Android could have that kind of performance too — it uses a Linux kernel as well — but the rest of the OS is a horribly written resource hog.
 
I had an iPhone 4 which was getting very long in the tooth, and debated switching to Android. I actually was getting ready to pull the trigger on the Nexus 4, but the very day I finally decided to buy one was the day they sold out forever! At that point it was clear the Nexus 5 was going to be out any day now anyway.

In the end my carrier offered me an unbeatable deal on an iPhone 5S (I could also have taken a Galaxy S4 or HTC One, I guess). I may still buy a Nexus for vacation travel as my new iPhone is carrier locked.

I certainly understand the positions of the two camps but for a fairly casual user like myself, I think I could be happy with either. All I really do with my phone, apart from making calls, are check my Gmail, Facebook, and take occasional casual pictures. There are other things I do occasionally but the apps exist for both platforms: games like Angry Birds and Geocaching, social media like YouTube, Twitter and Instagram, streaming music like TuneIn Radio and Songza, and productivity tools like Google Maps/Nav, Dropbox and Amazon Kindle.

There are a few things about iOS integration that I do really like, such as AirPlay streaming of videos, YouTube, music, etc. to my Apple TV.
 
I am working on degoogling my life.

Been a fan of Google Gmail - read they were taking away Exchange support in January for new devices. I get a new iPad and, yes, they did. Fetching Gmail sucks.

I setup an iCloud favorite sync for Chrome on my Windows machine. Now I am moving away from using Chrome and back to Safari on my Macs and iPhone/iPad. Bought a 20GB iCloud upgrade. Forward my GMail to iCloud.

I'll never personally buy an Android based product. So yea. Switching from using Google Products on an iPhone to Apple is pretty easy - Tim should make a guide.
 
Market Share doesn't mean more users:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/07/android-market-share-smartphone-users-google-apple

The closest measurement is the comScore and/or browser statistics:
http://www.comscore.com/Insights/Pr...d&utm_campaign=Feed:+comscore+(comScore+News)

Brand:
40% have Apple phones
25% have Samsung

OS:
51% have Android
40% have iOS.

And while Android OS does beat out apple, the fragmentation in that OS leaves only 52% of that with Jelly Bean vs 80% with iOS7.
https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/android_vs_ios
 
Not

One of my co-workers told me the other day he got rid of his Droid because of all the spam & ads that were clogging up his texting and alerts. Pretty sure it was a Samsung of some sort, one of those big-ass things. I could be proven wrong, but I don't think you could pay me to switch.
 
One of my co-workers told me the other day he got rid of his Droid because of all the spam & ads that were clogging up his texting and alerts. Pretty sure it was a Samsung of some sort, one of those big-ass things. I could be proven wrong, but I don't think you could pay me to switch.

Perhaps not, but if you (or anyone else, really) ever wanted to try Android, people seem to recommend Google Nexus phones for the "pure" Android experience, uncluttered by the crap that third parties like Samsung toss into the mix.
 
Not that I am recommending a switch — but I see no reason why you couldn't have an Android next to your MBA/iPad/Mini. Even iCloud mail (if you use that) on Android shouldn't pose a problem.

If you feel like switching to Android. Do it — it shouldn't be hard. And if you want to switch back from Android to iOS — it shouldn't be hard either.
Both phones will work just fine with all your other Apple gear.
iMessage, FaceTime, Notes, Reminders, Safari iCloud tabs, Photo Stream, Contacts, Calendar, universal apps (thus only needing to buy once), and auto-syncing various iTunes purchases... sure I could find alternatives, but these are exactly what comprise the ecosystem. I'd be giving up all of that simply for a bigger screen and different UI.

Definitely doesn't make much sense for someone that utilizes the aforementioned daily; but perhaps if you don't, then yeah, I could see switching being an option.
 
II looked in today's paper and it is obvious why Android devices outsell IOS devices by a huge ratio or like 8 to 1 or something. They are selling Andriod tablets for $80 each. Of course these are not great but when to count up the total Andriods sold I'm sure the vast majority are these sub $100 gadgets.

I'd like to see numbers that include only the high-end devices


That said, it is really tempting to buy a $79 tablet. I bet I could find a use for it.
 
Switch from iPhone

Honestly, if I wasn't so invested in the Apple ecosystem (MBA, iPad Mini, Mac Mini, etc.), I'd probably go for one of these newer Android phones. They seem really nice.

Nevertheless, it's an exciting time for technological innovation and friendly competition. Let's hope Apple brings some big changes to iOS 8 and iPhone 6.

My house has an Apple TV, Retina Ipad, Ipad mini, Macbook pro, Mac, Macbook Air, White macbook, Ipod, Ipod touch and...my Galaxy S3. I really want to buy an iphone, but every time I come to get a new phone I can't bring myself to buy a phone that can not be customized in any meaningful way and has a small screen... Oh, and I've never been troubled by Malware...
 
This really shows how out of touch Eric Schmidt is with today's world. The idea of writing this how to in order to make the leap from iPhone to android already goes against the idea that it should be intuitive and easy to do so. Maybe this would be appropriate if this was a crappy 1970's era technology where we have to read a how to guide in order to operate a crappy piece of technology... so is that what eric is saying, droid is a crappy piece of 1970's era tech.

Logic fail.

The only reason the switch to an Android phone is a hassle the first time you do it is because Apple is so locked down with almost zero cross platform compatibility.
 
is Google so desperate to gain marketshare that its CEO has to do this kind of pathetic campaign ?

Yes, because he knows that Samsung is going to do a Google.... they have stolen enough ideas that they will soon deliver their own OS and take away customers from Google.
 
Market Share doesn't mean more users:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/07/android-market-share-smartphone-users-google-apple

The closest measurement is the comScore and/or browser statistics:

Reported browser UA string is one of the least accurate ways to determine actual usage.

The results will be massively (and incorrectly) skewed in favour of iOS for a number of reasons...

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I'm pretty sure Schmidt is just trolling people now. He knows no real Apple fan will ever buy into Android.

By "real Apple fan" do you mean someone who will use Apple regardless of whether or not it is the best tool for the job? If so, then you're probably right, although a better description might be "fanboy".
 
When Eric Schmidt talks…. I'm fondly reminded of Baghdad Bob.
 

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Android isn't beating Apple at anything but distorted perception of grandeur . It is a free mobile OS piggybacking on off the shelf hardware that is literally being sold for almost nothing. Period.
Android is perceived by the initiated as a standalone product ,which it ain't.
At the end of the day lets look at the balance and see who's rocking bank like a boss.
APPLE B****!
Money all day!!!!!
 
Thief. Criminal. It's all there is to it.

Eric Schmidt wants to be the New Steve Ballmer (since Ballmer is no longer relevant). A bean-counting businessman pretending to be someone who is a tech visionary guru. People who know better realize that he is just posturing, talking the smack talk. And the genuine technologists in his company are probably cringing every time Eric opens his mouth. Just like the true brains and geniuses at Microsoft cringed every time Ballmer opened his mouth and said something stupid.

Just like Google so desperately wants to become The New Microsoft Juggernaut.
 
Android isn't beating Apple at anything but distorted perception of grandeur . It is a free mobile OS piggybacking on off the shelf hardware that is literally being sold for almost nothing. Period.
Android is perceived by the initiated as a standalone product ,which it ain't.
At the end of the day lets look at the balance and see who's rocking bank like a boss.
APPLE B****!
Money all day!!!!!

Oh.My.God. The fact that Google uses the Android platform as an OS to make money puts it on a level with ... every other major OS out there. You think the whole point of iOS is just so people can have a nice mobile OS? If you think so then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn ... How much money do you think Apple calculates it will get from an iOS user purchasing media through iTunes, storage space through iCloud, and buying apps via the App store (to which Apple takes a cut). AND finally ... get this ... selling you targeted advertisements through iAds. And on top of that, hoping that you buy an ipad and a macbook air and make the Apple ecosystem even more $$$.

Seriously. Operating Systems are designed by companies to make money. Use Android, or don't use Android, but saying "zomg if I have a gmail account Google is going to make soooo much $$$ off me from targeted advertisements" when Apple makes MORE money from iOS users is like the height of user ignorance.

You're a consumer. Apple, and Google, and MSFT, and whoever else, see you as a source of revenue. Get over it.
 
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