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Google Chairman Eric Schmidt Posts Guide on Converting to Android from iPhone
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The best is the one you think is the best. Who cares what others think?
Sigh... I must've gain 2-3 rank levels on this forum just saying this...
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I hope you drive a Ford!
And that is why I chose the 5S over the Nexus 5 this year. To me, the iPhone is the best phone out there this year. Nothing compares.
It's not all about screen size. None of that matters if I own a Nexus 4 that loses 50% of it's battery life in one hour for no reason until I reboot it. My Nexus 4 did that three different days last week. Android still has too many quirks in it for my taste right now. Maybe in another year things will improve.
iPhone FTW!
Most Android phones sold in China are unbundled with the default Google apps and services. Instead they contain local Chinese apps and services instead (e.g. Baidu search instead of Google search)
I wonder why the entrepreneurial Chinese don't simply break away from Google Android and simply exploit and cannibalize Android source to make a more "native" Chinese OS, made by Chinese, made for Chinese, and without having to ask for Google's permission.
Amazon Kindle did this, and they seem to be doing OK.
Samsung could be divorcing Google soon also, with their grand plans for Tizen.
As someone who supports both iOS and Android devices in an enterprise all I have to say is yeah, no thanks. iOS is the new Blackberry (minus the middleman crap). Each and every provider manipulates and violates Android in so many ways it's almost impossible to support. It's so bad at the MDM level that I'm going to go as far as to say I'll take a Windows Phone 8 device over an Android device any day.
Being a long time Linux guy, it truly pains me to see what Google has done with Android. I'm waiting to get my hands on an Ubuntu phone with their version and the desktop dock to see how that operates. It could be a very interesting paradigm.
Being a long time Linux guy, it truly pains me to see what Google has done with Android. I'm waiting to get my hands on an Ubuntu phone with their version and the desktop dock to see how that operates. It could be a very interesting paradigm.
You could say a lot about Google but them not having service in China is not something that is their fault. I'm sure they would love a stronger mainland China business (think of all the targeted ads!!!) but they've been banned as has youtube.
Apple has worked with the Chinese government to ensure that every App in the App store is in no way offensive or subversive to the government's authority, and has in many cases banned apps deemed by the Chinese government to be offensive.
Which makes Apple smart, but I'm not sure they win on the ethics issue here.
Actually, there are thousands of guides for how to switch to the iPhone. When you invest in any ecosystem switching to another that does things differently usually ends up in guides being posted all over the internet.
<sarcasm>Well google publically demonstrated that when they purposely found a back door to track users when their preference was to not be tracked. </sarcasm>
Now my question is what do they do in their own browser that isnt public. I wouldnt touch Chrome with a 10 foot pole.
I agree with everything youve said, but thats not why I had to reply. I just had to say you have possibly the best username on the planet, brilliant!
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I agree!
One thing I find interesting now that I have moved from the United States to Italy, are the comments about world iPhone versus android usage. Here in Italy a 64 GB iPhone is €900, or over $1250 American dollars. Even the least expensive iPhone is close to $1000. And yet many many people here still own one. On the other hand, you can pick up an android phone for under $100. So of course android phones are more popular in the world.
On the flipside, I have a cell phone plan for €10 a month, or about $13. It includes 400 minutes to anybody, unlimited minutes to my wife, 2 GB of data, and 1000 text messages. Also, in most of Europe, only the sender pays for the call. If somebody calls me and we talk for two hours, it doesn't cost me any minutes. If you do the math, even the $1250 iPhone over two years with my cell phone plan is much cheaper than any package you could get in the United States.
And I find it interesting that even with their increased cost, people still lineup for hours and days to get the latest iPhone. You don't see lines like that for android phones.
I agree!
One thing I find interesting now that I have moved from the United States to Italy, are the comments about world iPhone versus android usage. Here in Italy a 64 GB iPhone is €900, or over $1250 American dollars. Even the least expensive iPhone is close to $1000. And yet many many people here still own one. On the other hand, you can pick up an android phone for under $100. So of course android phones are more popular in the world.
On the flipside, I have a cell phone plan for €10 a month, or about $13. It includes 400 minutes to anybody, unlimited minutes to my wife, 2 GB of data, and 1000 text messages. Also, in most of Europe, only the sender pays for the call. If somebody calls me and we talk for two hours, it doesn't cost me any minutes. If you do the math, even the $1250 iPhone over two years with my cell phone plan is much cheaper than any package you could get in the United States.
And I find it interesting that even with their increased cost, people still lineup for hours and days to get the latest iPhone. You don't see lines like that for android phones.
Maybe it's because you don't have to line up like that to get the Android phone you want, but it puzzles me too why people do that.
Nah, they would be doing a lot better if they just sold an Android tablet bundled with Amazon apps.
http://www.benzinga.com/news/13/08/...-fire-hd-price-after-losing-market-share-amzn
I'm sure we both agree that the iPhone — just and any other smartphone — is not just hardware. It is hardware + software + services. There are easy to adopt, cross-platform software + service alternatives to all the stuff you mention (except for the buy one app — use it for both iPad and iPhone, I guess).
But if you really love the mentioned software + services that much, maybe you shouldn't consider switching at all.
Not trying to stir things up — I just want you to be happy about the tech you use and tell you that there is no reason to feel locked in. Macs/OS X and Android can dance together. If that is what you feel for — go for it — the pain of a little migration will go away fast.
Step 3: Get used to lag and inconsistency.
Step 4: Get used to asking, "When will this (app or accessory) be available for Android?"
There's really only one salient point for me right now:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5051304/google-nexus-5-wont-work-on-verizon
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5051304/google-nexus-5-wont-work-on-verizon
Having owned both Android, and iOS, devices I think this is pretty helpful. Switching between the two can be frustrating if you're not savvy.
Don't be scared to try new stuff either! I'm a Windows guy (gaming), but I've at least tried Mac. In the mobile world I started with Android, but found that I prefer iOS.
Don't be scared to try new stuff either! I'm a Windows guy (gaming), but I've at least tried Mac. In the mobile world I started with Android, but found that I prefer iOS.
I would probably go back to ios if it allowed more customization and gave me more sharing and drive accessibility. I actually sold my S3 thinking ios 7 was going to do that. Should have known better.
The other thing I don't like is apple doesn't have an imessage app for other platforms and hangouts does. Hoping hangouts gets better notification features though.
Let's put it this way I think ios is probably a better and more solid OS but its walled in and lacks a lot of features compared to Android. The Android OS experience is good enough at this point that I'll take it to get the extra features.
Really depends on what you like and is more important to each person.
I just grow tired of Android bashing especially if it's someone with limited Android experience.
Thank you.
I was explaining this to a group of Android users the other day about how they were clueless with the crap that was spewing out of their mouth about iOS. It completely goes both directions and is the same argument people had years ago about Mac versus PC. A bunch of clueless goons who use what they use only because that is what they know how to use. I have used both and they both have their finer points and they both have their weaknesses. I use an iPhone because I think it is a solid platform that works well. I used to use Android because initially iOS was a horrible OS that couldn't do nearly anything I had been doing on Symbian based smartphones for years. In truth, most people get the smartphone their friends have to fit in as long as their cell provider of choice offers it, if not they go with something else they offer. Because they spend their hard earned money on it they justify it even if they dislike it because it's not cheap to own a smartphone with a cell and data plan.
I think you could say this for both sides no? Please there are plenty out there that bash apple who have never even touched an apple product!
I'm sure your argument went over quite well with them.
Keep in mind this is very much a double edged sword. Yeah, a lot of Android fans talk about how iOS is simplified to the point of literal uselessness, which is wrong. In much the same way a lot of iOS fans go on and on about lag, crashes, and viruses.
If you ask me, what it all comes down to is a simple case of "my stuff is better than your stuff". Yeah, there are advantages and disadvantages to both, and one person might prefer the advantages of one platform over the other. Hence the reason why honest discussion is always a good thing. But much like Macs vs. PC, most arguments boil down to dumb hyperbole and nothing more.