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Google Chairman Eric Schmidt Says Relationship with Apple 'Improving'

appleisking said:
Ok I'll bite. What about the concept of cookies am I missing?
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The fact that:

A) They originate from the server
B) One website cant read another websites cookies
C) Cookies are generally just a session ID and maybe a cache of your name to save looking it up on a database.

So saying 'they read your cookies' is pretty redundant given that:

A) The cookie data is the data they put in it
B) They know whats in the cookie anyway
C) They can only read their own data.

Make sense now?
 
Oletros said:
Wrong and wrong
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It's clearly not that cut and dry. There's a number of overlaps in the product timelines, vague dates, motive, and opportunity, mixed with ego and a bit of paranoia.

This is one of those tech fables where you have to be a little agnostic and assume it's just unknowable. :D
 
beaniemyman said:
i hope these guys solve their issues ASAP and start focusing on their stupid and lagging products.
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I agree they should work to solve their corporate disputes, but do you really think each CEO is down on the R&D and production floors of their respective companies doing the actual work? I don't think their disputes are holding up anything with the exception of any court injunctions.
 
SockRolid said:
Sure. But Mr. Schmidt also said this:



Mr. Schmidt's "reality distortion field" barely covers his own cerebrum.
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Do you want a list of quotes every CEO has said that didn't wind up true? Please. As if Schmidt is any more or less guilty of promoting his company as a CEO should...positively...
 
I think the extent of the relationship is Apple is making Google just one app provider of many on the iOS platform, rather than Google embedding directly into iOS like it was before.

Though, Apple going with Bing over Google search for iOS7 is pretty damn telling what Apple thinks of Google.
 
Technarchy said:
I think the extent of the relationship is Apple is making Google just one app provider of many on the iOS platform, rather than Google embedding directly into iOS like it was before.

Though, Apple going with Bing over Google search for iOS7 is pretty damn telling what Apple thinks of Google.
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And it destroys the notion that Apple only has the consumers' best interests in mind.
 
Google = Evil

Those of you who awe and oh about Google kiss your private information goodbye. I remember ranting and raving about google long before anyone knew who they were. My bad, they've proven themselves to be even worse than Gates and Balmer with your personal information. They're in bed with the government so if you are happy to bend over and grab your ankles for your google government by all means knock yourself out.

I've got a new tag line for Google

Google, We make technology creepy.

Eric is a traitor..... which is why Jobs probably hated his guts. Don't trust anything out of this commies mouth. De-google your mac as much as possible... that's what I've done and quite frankly.... I'm starting to like my macs even more, I didn't know that was possible.
 
Bill Killer said:
And it destroys the notion that Apple only has the consumers' best interests in mind.
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Hardly. Google's services are vastly overrated, and Apple is realizing this, so best to cut out that liability where possible.

Make Google compete in the trenches with everyone else and if their products are so much better, they will continue to have a strong presence on the iOS platform. Apple should not however be propping up Google services with preferential treatment, doubly so considering Google has been unscrupulous in their dealings with Apple.
 
This is because Apple has finally separated enough of its services from Google and identified SAMSUNG as the real enemy.
 
John.B said:
More succinctly, Apple did want Google Maps updated, but they didn't want Google to get location tracking abilities for every iOS user. Apple should be applauded for not caving to Google on that point.

Apple's mistake (and it's a big one) was in assuming Yelp location data was accurate in any way, shape, or form.
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Yes, yes, and yes. But, not only that, Apple Maps is dare I say, stupid.
 
I always thought it was sad when SJ said -
* "Google are thieves"
* "Adobe are lazy"

Prior to the Google statement, people here on MR had no problem with Google, overall. Far less "hate" than afterwards.

People here on MR started to parrot what SJ said, instead of having a mind of their own.

Its in the interest of both Apple and Google that they have a good relationship - Google need Apple as much as Apple need Google - they do not live in a bubble.

SJ appeared to make decisions based upon emotions rather than logic, unlike Cook, who is seemingly vastly more mature.
 
Technarchy said:
Hardly. Google's services are vastly overrated, and Apple is realizing this, so best to cut out that liability where possible.
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It really has nothing to do with that and those saying this only do so because they feel the need to side with Apple on this.

The move to make Bing the default engine for Siri is primary a move made out of spite by Apple and part of their thermonuclear war against Google/Android. It is really not about giving the best to their consumers and the decision flies on the face of Apple's (Tim Cook in particular) constant claim that all they want to do is make the best products (which by extension includes the best apps/services). Note how Apple doesn't even includes YouTube or Google+ integration inspite of having Vimeo along with Facebook and Twitter integration built into iOS.

Bing was chosen in spite of Microsoft's constant attacks on the iPad/iPhone and their competing products because in terms of marketshare they are not a threat to Apple's iOS devices but Android is. There truly is nothing more than that when it comes to this.

As far as what Schmidt is saying, without more information about these "discussions" it is hard to say what, exactly is improving or will improve in the future.
 
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Evoken said:
It really has nothing to do with that and those saying this only do so because they feel the need to side with Apple on this.

The move to make Bing the default engine for Siri is primary a move made out of spite by Apple and part of their thermonuclear war against Google/Android. It is really not about giving the best to their consumers and the decision flies on the face of Apple's (Tim Cook in particular) constant claim that all they want to do is make the best products (which by extension includes the best apps/services).
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Google Search is not that great. Not anymore. Google search circa 2002 was an amazing thing.

Bing is easily as capable to the current Google, and I'll state right now that 90% of the users wont care. The remaining ten percent will probably users on this forum with too much time on their hands.
 
Unggoy Murderer said:
While this is good news, I really don't think Schmidt is a good person to be involved in anything.
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Schmidt claiming that he has "improved relationship" with Apple is like Satan saying that he's mending his differences with Yaweh.

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Technarchy said:
Google Search is not that great. Not anymore. Google search circa 2002 was an amazing thing.

Bing is easily as capable to the current Google, and I'll state right now that 90% of the users wont care. The remaining ten percent will probably users on this forum with too much time on their hands.
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Bing Search is actually pretty good. But Bing still needs to work on its search interface and presentation. Google still compiles and presents its data in a "cleaner" and more intuitive uncluttered (Apple-ish) way.

Once Microsoft has rectified this, then they will have a truly good search engine.
 
Pffffttt...

Eric Schmidt is a d*uche-nozzle - plain and simple.

I have an idea... just wait until the man's dead to talk ***** about him and the way he handled his business. Because that's certainly the "adult way" to handle things. And because Jobs, you know, was such a failure and all... :rolleyes:
 
well, now..

Now, after Jobs finally died poisoned, we´ve jumped on the PRISMs board and partnering up with both Google and Facebook. oh :apple:
 
rmwebs said:
The fact that:

A) They originate from the server
B) One website cant read another websites cookies
C) Cookies are generally just a session ID and maybe a cache of your name to save looking it up on a database.

So saying 'they read your cookies' is pretty redundant given that:

A) The cookie data is the data they put in it
B) They know whats in the cookie anyway
C) They can only read their own data.

Make sense now?
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ER NER!!! DEY TERK MAU OREO COOKIES :p
 
Oletros said:
The hatred in some of you is very funny, it makes you said such silly things.
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Actually this says more about you than them. Your hatred towards those people seem to be quite a lot that makes you say something as silly as this.

Some google services are indeed overrated, which doesn't mean they are bad but means that without them the web would still go on since others also offer similar services. I mean how many sane people here would think that google+ is a must have?
 
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