Google Chairman Eric Schmidt Says Relationship with Apple 'Improving'

[donutbagel]

At this point, I'm hoping either Google shapes up or someone else (not Yahoo or Bing either) takes over the "cloud". They've gotten really bad. First off, Google+ is a mess even though they do have a good and free video conference feature. I used it once just for that and was amazed that they managed to make it more annoying than Facebook. Look at this armtwisting to get people to use their new "features". They shoved this onto the right of my YouTube channel.

I'm already subscribed to one, couldn't care less about the rest. Disable.

Are you kidding me? **** you, I'll just use AdBlock to block it as an ad.

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Google is not the advertiser. Honda, Hersheys, NBC, Moe's Diner, etc are advertisers. They go to google and buy placement and specify their target market.

The person I responded to wrote, "with no regard for user privacy while passing it on to their advertising partners."

Are you agreeing with that person?

No. Even if they were doing that, there's no way we'd know. I actually originally wrote that Google did pass the info on, but that's because I confused Google's ads with the corporations advertising through Google.

 

[samcraig]

At this point, I'm hoping either Google shapes up or someone else takes over the "cloud". They've gotten really bad.

Look at this armtwisting to get people to use their new "features".

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I'm already subscribed to one, couldn't care less about the rest. Disable.
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Are you kidding me?

Well I don't think you want to hand that job over to Apple. Their "uptime" isn't exactly stellar.

 

[4TheLoveOfTech]

Though I doubt it will ever happen again, I would like to see YouTube brought back as a native app to iOS.

Out of curiosity why would you want this? I haven't had an iPhone since the 3GS but I do follow all iOS and OSX upgrades.

With YouTube being a Native Apple App wouldn't that mean that you only get YouTube upgrades when Apple updates their mobile OS?

With it not being integrated into the mobile OS you get the benefits when Google upgrades the app.

I'm not a fan of any app being tied to an OS upgrade on any platform.

If I'm wrong and a native iOS app isn't tied to a mobile OS upgrade I'd like a link if possible because I haven't read anything about it.

 

[Taz Mangus]

I don't trust Eric.

I don't trust Google.

 

[donutbagel]

Well I don't think you want to hand that job over to Apple. Their "uptime" isn't exactly stellar.

I can't see Apple doing something like YouTube, but their Pages on iCloud looks interesting. Google Docs was always pretty good but didn't have enough of an ecosystem. The things Apple really screwed up were Ping and Game Center.

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If I'm wrong and a native iOS app isn't tied to a mobile OS upgrade I'd like a link if possible because I haven't read anything about it.

No, you're right about that, but I don't like it for a different reason. Watching YouTube on Safari is ad-free, but using the app gives you ads.

 

[samcraig]

I can't see Apple doing something like YouTube, but their Pages on iCloud looks interesting. The things they really screwed up were Ping and Game Center.

I'm not talking about services. I'm talking about their infrastructure and data centers. They have a lot of downtime for siri, imessage, icloud, etc...

 

[donutbagel]

I'm not talking about services. I'm talking about their infrastructure and data centers. They have a lot of downtime for siri, imessage, icloud, etc...

Oh. Siri and iCloud have been fine for me, but iMessage was shaky for the first few months.

 

[S.B.G]

Out of curiosity why would you want this? I haven't had an iPhone since the 3GS but I do follow all iOS and OSX upgrades.

With YouTube being a Native Apple App wouldn't that mean that you only get YouTube upgrades when Apple updates their mobile OS?

With it not being integrated into the mobile OS you get the benefits when Google upgrades the app.

I'm not a fan of any app being tied to an OS upgrade on any platform.

If I'm wrong and a native iOS app isn't tied to a mobile OS upgrade I'd like a link if possible because I haven't read anything about it.

Just that, in my experience, the native app 'felt' better than the one that was developed as a third-party app. I can't really describe it, but it seemed like a better experience, for me anyway, than the current one.

 

[UnfetteredMind]

If that was a question, the answer is no.

As it stands:

- Maps: Google's are the most accurate (not opinion, fact. Sure they are far from perfect, but on a global scale, they are the most accurate)
- YouTube: The biggest online video site. Kinda makes sense to have that on board
- Search: The heart of search, that nobody has been able to get close to matching.

Anyone would have to be really stupid to write Google off. They own three of the hottest web services.

What do any of these have to do with what my original question?

I think it's fairly well documented that there were issues between Apple and Google over mapping (Apple's original maps app utilizing Google data, not getting Turn-by-Turn without giving Google things they wanted, etc). Apple came out with their own mapping and then Google updated their app. Bone of contention removed, companies work better together again?

You seem to think I said Google's services aren't good or something along those lines and I made no such claim.

 

[Chrjy]

Sad to say, but the guy was an *******, even if he was a marketing genius.

I think he was a little more than just a marketing man!

 

[John.B]

You're wrong. You really think Apple didn't want Google Maps updated?

More succinctly, Apple did want Google Maps updated, but they didn't want Google to get location tracking abilities for every iOS user. Apple should be applauded for not caving to Google on that point.

Apple's mistake (and it's a big one) was in assuming Yelp location data was accurate in any way, shape, or form.

Google has actually benefitted from this, as the previous apps were written by Apple and Google couldn't make any money off of them. With Google writing the apps now, they can actually monetize from them as they've done with Youtube already.

Monetized, sure. Fixed, not so much. Neutered might be a better word.

 

[4TheLoveOfTech]

Just that, in my experience, the native app 'felt' better than the one that was developed as a third-party app. I can't really describe it, but it seemed like a better experience, for me anyway, than the current one.

I know what you mean about can't describe it. I really like Win 8 on my laptop (it took me a couple weeks and I did have to do a lot of searching as it's not intuitive as it should be). I tried a Win 8 phone and really didn't care for it even though it's very similar to the desktop experience.

If you have both an iPad and iPhone do you feel the same for both devices for YouTube?

 

[3282868]

Last December, the former Google CEO said that the two companies had an "on and off" relationship and that they would work through any issues in "the adult way."

A lesson for all

 

[S.B.G]

If you have both an iPad and iPhone do you feel the same for both devices for YouTube?

I do have both and to be honest, I'm not a big YouTuber on mobile devices and tend to use YouTube on a computer. With that said, I typically access YouTube on mobile only when someone sends me a link in a text or when I see a link in Tweetbot.

I don't recall the last time I used YouTube on the iPad, but I guess to answer your question, yes, I feel the same way for both devices regarding the native vs. third-party app.

 

[rmwebs]

All your cookies are sent to their servers

Stopped reading there - you dont really have a clue what a cookie is do you...

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So Tim Cook gets called before Congress... then Apple hires one of Obama's lackeys... then the ebook ruling... now an 'improving' relationship w/ Google. Methinks Apple is getting bullied into becoming part of the system. Found out Cook is soft. Doesn't have the antisocial, loner edge Steve Jobs had.

Or...maybe he's just a nice guy, who's not into petty fights.

Naa..of course not...what the hell am I thinking

 

[appleisking]

Stopped reading there - you dont really have a clue what a cookie is do you...

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Or...maybe he's just a nice guy, who's not into petty fights.

Naa..of course not...what the hell am I thinking

Everybody's an expert

 

[Michael Goff]

Everybody's an expert

Except he's right, it's painfully obvious you don't know what a cookie is.

 

[appleisking]

Except he's right, it's painfully obvious you don't know what a cookie is.

Ok I'll bite. What about the concept of cookies am I missing?

 

[Glideslope]

Crap...

....no wait, it's Eric. The statement actually means the relationship is digressing. Remember that coffee at the outside Cafe Eric.

 

[asthamapheo]

wow, didn't knew schmidt was an employee of the worlds top 2 companies at the same time, awesomeness at it's best.

 

[beaniemyman]

i hope these guys solve their issues ASAP and start focusing on their stupid and lagging products.

 

[SockRolid]

... Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said the company's relationship with Apple is "improving" ...

Sure. But Mr. Schmidt also said this:

By the summer of 2012, the majority of the televisions you see in stores will have Google TV embedded.

Mr. Schmidt's "reality distortion field" barely covers his own cerebrum.
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[tongxinshe]

Much as I believe Steve Jobs was kind of nuts, Eric Schmidt should have resigned from the Apple board as soon as Google started serious development of a phone OS. It was unethical to continue, and perfectly predictable that it would trigger Steve's bipolar syndrome.

Since his famous "You'll Need to Discuss That With Apple" reply about Google Now for iOS back on March, I've figured out that he is not just an untrustworthy business partner, he is not even an untrustworthy public figure. Conclusion, never believe in whatever he says.

 

[otismotive77]

that's good, now let's hope this helps both companies to make better products.

 

[blitzer09x87]

that's just for a month, both of them will be suing each other after a while.