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Google Claims a 'Hostile, Organized Campaign Against Android'

Mr. Retrofire said:
Google should just shut up. They close their own labs, and every researcher knows what that means. They are no longer interested in innovation (read: too saturated). So the only one who started a "Hostile, Organized Campaign Against Android" is Google itself. The only question is now: Why (are they just too saturated)?

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um, last I checked, Android OS has a lot more innovation going on than iOS by a clear margin. iOS is just starting to get notification implementation. LOL

they're also just starting to make LED notifications on the new iPhone. Thats like 3-4 years too late there Apple.

And btw, the Google Labs were shut down because it was hardly used, and Google is focusing on their core products. You make it seem as though Google Labs were an actual scientific research facility working on top secret skunkworks projects. LOL


Google offers a LOT of productivity driven products, for FREE.

Let me ask all you Apple fankids out there, what did you get from Apple that was 'productivity driven' that was 'free.'

I'll list just three that Google offered to the end user that was free
- Gmail (the first to offer large storage space for email accounts. If it weren't for Google, you'd be paying monthly fees on crappy hotmail/yahoo mail)
- Google Maps (it made MapQuest look like childs play. Oh, and free Navigation application, along with traffic intelligence. Thanks Google! Didn't have to pay a dime for that! On iOS you have to pay for a 3rd party app that kills your battery life!)
- Google Music (Apple is making you pay for your storage, Google offers free storage)
 
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wikus said:
I would give up a testicle to see you cry like a baby in 1997 when Microsoft made a 150 million dollar investment in Apple. The crowds reaction was ridiculous enough, but I can only imagine how much whining you would have done.
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Microsoft purchased "non controlling stock", of Apple and signed a deal that Office would be the Only package offered by Apple to it's users for a multi year deal in return for some favors.

Understand this chief, if you understood really what that deal was in 1997 you would have not wrote that rubbish.

You Haters grasp at any straws to put down Apple or it's devoted users, but understand it only makes you look like fools for not understanding and taking History out of context.

Enjoy you augmented Reality, just remember, " It doesn't exist".
 
pika2000 said:
Really? Hey, screw you Google! Do I even have a choice in the US? I want an unlocked non-OEM/carrier-molested Android phone. What are my choices? 2. The old Nexus S, or the older Nexus One. Is that choice? That's the same as Apple, 2 phones, the latest, and the previous version.

Now, if I just want an unlocked Android phone in the US, the choice is not really better. The only OEM that is actively selling unlocked Android phone in the US is Sony Ericsson. That's it. Choice? Where?

Google, you slept with Verizon, and you threw net neutrality under the bus. Now you want to act goody two shoes? Screw you!
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Google has nothing to do with other hardware vendors (if you can even call them that -- Google never manufactured any hardware) offering carrier branded phones. That's a function of the hardware vendor and carrier, not Google.
 
aohus said:
iPhone clone space lol. Of course, Apple created the very first smartphone. They also invented the RDF (reality distortion field) that you're currently riding high on. I'm no fanboy of any company, but you take the cake on fanboyism to the highest bidder.
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Nice strawman. Apple did not create the smartphone, nor is anybody seriously claiming that they did.
 
aohus said:
um, last I checked, Android OS has a lot more innovation going on than iOS by a clear margin. iOS is just starting to get notification implementation. LOL

they're also just starting to make LED notifications on the new iPhone. Thats like 3-4 years too late there Apple.
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So, you cherry pick two features that would hardly qualify as innovations, and definitely not Android innovations. How is that evidence of a "clear margin" of innovation by Android?
 
Small White Car said:
Wrong analogy. If you want to use Apple's brush you pay them $99 per year.

The 30% cut only comes into play if you want to sell that painting in an Apple store.

(This is so totally off-topic, I know, but I don't like incorrect analogies.)
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Correct analogies take a certain degree of complex thought. Many can't handle it. Rocket scientists the average macrumors readers are not...
 
"Anyone"? Please only speak for yourself!
What a ****ing clown who think it is somebody!

lilsoccakid74 said:
Anyone who thinks Apple plays a fair game is a clown. I own all Apple computers, but if they don't show consideration for anyone but themselves soon, that will be coming to an end.
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Boo de hoo de hoo, Google. Dry your tears, and get back on the horse. How pathetic can you get?
 
aohus said:
um, last I checked, Android OS has a lot more innovation going on than iOS by a clear margin. iOS is just starting to get notification implementation. LOL

they're also just starting to make LED notifications on the new iPhone. Thats like 3-4 years too late there Apple.
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This is what your android phone would look like today if it wasn't for apple:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Android_mobile_phone_platform_early_device.jpg

I don't even know why I'd want LED notifications. I hope Apple isn't going to be putting a silly LED on my new iPhone. 3-4 late or not... I don't need it, and I don't want it.
 
Google seems positively terrified. First Schmidt's remarks, and now this.

One has to wonder how much of Android is actually theirs.

Yes, MS and the rest of the Consortium probably are ganging up on Google, probably because it looks like Google stole from everybody.
 
Google Android OS is number one right now... It's obvious that apple (iOS is number 2) and MS (Potential number 3) will come after them. At this point, no one cares about Symbian or Blackberry OS.
 
Funny thing is google would be attempting to do the exact same thing with licensing these patents if they were able to get them. Obviously google is just feeling left out right now of the 'group'. It's like the cold war with patents right now. Everyone is trying to get as much fire power as possible. The group purchasing shows how some companies don't care as much about the patents as they do not wanting to licence them long term while paying another company. Google's whole android concept is to create a base OS at as low of costs as possible so they can flood the market, other companies controlling patents that google is infringing on kills this idea.
 
As much as I prefer Apple's products to Google's, they are right. On the surface, his statement is accurate. Software patents need massive reworking to make them viable and useful to encourage innovation again. It's a plague that needs to be solved.

Interestingly, are the same companies that are fighting to acquire patent portfolios actually lobbying congress for patent reform? I don't know the answer to that, but I am willing to bet that 4.5B of lobbying and campaigning would solve the whole patent battle. After all, money is speech now thanks to Citizen's United. (Yet another horrible decision by the Supreme Court, but I digress.)

These patents are worthless. They are used only to force the cost of business up for competitors by using intentionally obfuscated language for obvious inventions. The patent holders, in most cases, don't build anything. They just sue once someone else builds something with the patent they own. It's pathetic. NPR's This American Life had a great summary of the issue in their latest Podcast.

However, I somehow doubt that Google, with a $4B bid for the same Nortel patent portfolio, was going to just sit on them. Are they actually just complaining because they don't get to be the ones "extracting value" out of their patent portfolio? Somehow I think that no matter how virtuous these comments are, that Corporations look out for themselves first. Even Google. Especially Google.
 
wikus said:
Of course, I expect this message to get 'negged' (as it already has THREE only minutes after this being posted). Its obvious that certain macrumors members either; don't read more than the first line or have trouble with critical thinking.
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When your first line starts by calling people "fanboys" it is hard to take the post seriously.
 
aohus said:
um, last I checked, Android OS has a lot more innovation going on than iOS by a clear margin. iOS is just starting to get notification implementation. LOL

they're also just starting to make LED notifications on the new iPhone. Thats like 3-4 years too late there Apple.

And btw, the Google Labs were shut down because it was hardly used, and Google is focusing on their core products. You make it seem as though Google Labs were an actual scientific research facility working on top secret skunkworks projects. LOL


Google offers a LOT of productivity driven products, for FREE.

Let me ask all you Apple fankids out there, what did you get from Apple that was 'productivity driven' that was 'free.'

I'll list just three that Google offered to the end user that was free
- Gmail (the first to offer large storage space for email accounts. If it weren't for Google, you'd be paying monthly fees on crappy hotmail/yahoo mail)
- Google Maps (it made MapQuest look like childs play. Oh, and free Navigation application, along with traffic intelligence. Thanks Google! Didn't have to pay a dime for that! On iOS you have to pay for a 3rd party app that kills your battery life!)
- Google Music (Apple is making you pay for your storage, Google offers free storage)
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Those apps are NOT free. Who I talk to, who emails me, where I go, what I listen to, that is MY business and is not for sale. THAT is the price you pay for using Google's services and in my opinion is more valuable than the miniscule price Apple charges for their LOCAL stored applications.
 
lilsoccakid74 said:
Anyone who thinks Apple plays a fair game is a clown. I own all Apple computers, but if they don't show consideration for anyone but themselves soon, that will be coming to an end.
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And you think companies like Google, Microsoft, HP and Dell are any better? Apple is a business, and like any business it looks out for its best interests. Apple isn't running a charity.
 
gnagy said:
This is what your android phone would look like today if it wasn't for apple:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Android_mobile_phone_platform_early_device.jpg

I don't even know why I'd want LED notifications. I hope Apple isn't going to be putting a silly LED on my new iPhone. 3-4 late or not... I don't need it, and I don't want it.
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and how is that a bad thing? apple innovated the smartphone but i dont see what's so bad about other companies taking the idea. i love having different touch phones to chose from. the iPhone sales show that it doesnt really hurt them anyway.

btw good for u not wanting LED
 
Patents are pure evil. They simply protect private property and make your innovation for you only no matter what you benefitted from. May those same patent holders erase all knowledge of free and public science education and information passed on from generation to generation with no restriction on it's use. You owe history an enormous deal, payback can be in the form of freeing your ideas like those in the past did.
 
aohus said:
um, last I checked, Android OS has a lot more innovation going on than iOS by a clear margin. iOS is just starting to get notification implementation. LOL

they're also just starting to make LED notifications on the new iPhone. Thats like 3-4 years too late there Apple.

And btw, the Google Labs were shut down because it was hardly used, and Google is focusing on their core products. You make it seem as though Google Labs were an actual scientific research facility working on top secret skunkworks projects. LOL


Google offers a LOT of productivity driven products, for FREE.

Let me ask all you Apple fankids out there, what did you get from Apple that was 'productivity driven' that was 'free.'

I'll list just three that Google offered to the end user that was free
- Gmail (the first to offer large storage space for email accounts. If it weren't for Google, you'd be paying monthly fees on crappy hotmail/yahoo mail)
- Google Maps (it made MapQuest look like childs play. Oh, and free Navigation application, along with traffic intelligence. Thanks Google! Didn't have to pay a dime for that! On iOS you have to pay for a 3rd party app that kills your battery life!)
- Google Music (Apple is making you pay for your storage, Google offers free storage)
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What i get from reading your post is that you like free stuff, not a single thing about how Apple or Google are/aren't innovating.
 
Hmmm... so it's okay for Google to bid $4B for the patents in question, but when it loses the bid to the likes of Apple and Microsoft, all of a sudden there's an "organized campaign against Android"? Oh boo hoo! Sounds like sour grapes to me, but more importantly it also sounds like Google is on the defensive.
 
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