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Google Could Pay Apple $15 Billion to Maintain Default iOS Search Engine Status in 2021, Suggests Analyst
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You miss the point. Targeted ads are still wrong and deceptive. For example you are interested in purchasing a 21' Toyota Camry and make a web search only to be spammed by hyundai/kia websites artificially boosted to the top of the results page. It might be related but a competitor paying google to be at the top of a search result is anti competitive abusing Googles virtual monopoly on web search queries.
I agree,EU was right in punishing m$ for its huge abuse of its monopoly, it was worse under bill gates dictatorship because m$ deliberately integrated IE deep into windows core os so it was near impossible to migrate from IE and use another browser exclusively.
Google is similar if less crude in its abuse of its browser monopoly today. One example is forcing users to have chrome installed to sign in gapps on android
Of all the monopolies that exist and necessitate being broken in the tech world, Google’s monopoly over world-wide search needs to be. Even if it means fragmenting populations into temporarily less-optimized local search engines, the more we attach ourselves to Google’s algorithm the more we pay the price when we decide to detach later on.
Forget App Store controversies, digital marketplace dominance from companies like Amazon and so on… the biggest and most mind boggling monopoly that is allowed to exist is a single tech company like Google watching practically the entire planet navigate the internet, observing it’s interests, trends, aversions & perversions. I’m starting to think politicians are scared they might disappear if they ever tried to diminish Google’s hold over the planets digital search.
Google seems to treat it’s dominance over search like a Drug Cartel does over it’s products and supply lines, ruthless in its protection and vicious in it’s elimination of threats. No start-up or politician is immune from the incentives that come from a company willing to throw billions at the privilege of remaining default search on a single companies phone.
Google is not your friend.
Forget App Store controversies, digital marketplace dominance from companies like Amazon and so on… the biggest and most mind boggling monopoly that is allowed to exist is a single tech company like Google watching practically the entire planet navigate the internet, observing it’s interests, trends, aversions & perversions. I’m starting to think politicians are scared they might disappear if they ever tried to diminish Google’s hold over the planets digital search.
Google seems to treat it’s dominance over search like a Drug Cartel does over it’s products and supply lines, ruthless in its protection and vicious in it’s elimination of threats. No start-up or politician is immune from the incentives that come from a company willing to throw billions at the privilege of remaining default search on a single companies phone.
Google is not your friend.
I'll stick to AltaVista, It's the best when looking for animated gifs for my Angelfire page.
Well, you're missing half the internet and not getting anywhere near as quality of results, but what you don't know can't hurt you. I guess.
Unless you were a programmer.
It’s essentially a paid placement. People may not be aware but size and placement of goods, services, and shelf space is for sale nearly everywhere. The grocery store is the typical example. Companies pay for the privilege to have their products at eye level at one price, around eye level at another price, closer to the floor for another, etc. End caps have pricing vs shelves. Special displays on the floor have a cost, etc. It has never been about what’s best for the customer. It has always been about using opportunities for increasing revenue. Many similar examples exist in the world of technology where the goal has nothing to do with end user satisfaction but increased revenue.
DuckDuckGo (ie anonymized Bing search with a few extra bells and whistles) serves me well 95% of the time, but there are occasions when I am forced to go back to Google as DDG just isn't giving me the results I need, which I get immediately from Google.
One thing I did notice quite quickly when I started using DDG was how the online advertising on other sites started to lose track of who I was, as they didn't have any of the Google search history cookies, which was refreshing... mind you it does now mean that I see ads like "Buy this device that uses special red light to clean your chakras and can cure 99% of known ailments and perform reiki on your reflexology points"... at which point I realize we're doomed as a species.
One thing I did notice quite quickly when I started using DDG was how the online advertising on other sites started to lose track of who I was, as they didn't have any of the Google search history cookies, which was refreshing... mind you it does now mean that I see ads like "Buy this device that uses special red light to clean your chakras and can cure 99% of known ailments and perform reiki on your reflexology points"... at which point I realize we're doomed as a species.
As much as I dislike google their search engine is just so much better than the others. More often than not the most relevant results right up there at the top of the search. For all the money Microsoft has poured into Bing, the results are mostly terrible.
There shouldn't be a default. Part of the initial setup of your iPhone is to choose your default search engine.
The fact that Apple will take $15B for doing practically nothing should tell you how they feel about overcharging their customers for their hardware and services.
No you aren't wrong. There is disdain that Apple is getting such a huge sum of money from Google. Some of it is that it makes Apple looks hypocritical with it's stance on PII. It's not like one can't choose a default search engine if they don't like google and want to use yahoo (who already lost the war as the people have spoken)
Please do tell how things would change if one selected google as the default anyway?
Good point. At least Google is up front about it. My faith in Apple is shook.
I would agree with that if google was excluded from being used at all. Since google is an option, it makes no difference.
People who don't know the difference in search engines in 2021, probably don't know the difference between a civic and a ferrari.
I think you hit the correct answer as your 2nd option...they don't care enough, just like many of the other things that people of this and most likely other Apple/Mac forums always piss and moan about. I think that vast majority of users just want a device that works and can accomplish what they are intending to do.
I like the irony of Giggle is default search engine and tightens consumer privacy with private relay and anti tracking. I change my default to DuckDuckGo on my devices and Nokia phones
How would anything be different if google didn't pay apple anything? It's a rhetorical question because nothing would change in terms of privacy. My bet is the majority would choose google anyway...so Apple might as well collect whatever revenue they can (which they do)
If Apple asked about a default, imo, most people would choose google. Google search results and the branding of the results page is very well known. IMO, if another were chosen as a default, most people would either switch the default...or type google.com in the search bar.
15 billions in income to fund their Privacy initiative.
Someone’s gotta be the default search engine. Anyway, those who are aware of the privacy situation will manually change it to DuckDuckGo or similar.
As an occasional programmer duckduckgos instant answers are amazing Google even copied the concept. If I really need Google I could bang it from duckduckgo.