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Here is a great way to visualise a million vs a billion dollars!!!!
TLDW;
If you lay down stacks of dollar bills in a line, a million will be 300yds long, a billion will be an 80 minute drive in a car long!
 
I’ll stick to DuckDuckGo. I tried going back to Google a few times and the results for everything from a image I was looking for to code documentation and stackoverflow required paging to get to the result that DuckDuckGo just presented on page one. More often than not Google wanted to push me away from the page i was looking for and instead to a sponsor or ad.
 
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i know on articles such as this there are always loads of posts which refer to privacy, i have never understood what the issues are? if i do a search fir something then it doesn’t bother me that i get targeted ads surely that is better than just random ones.
It can be horrible. I was helping take care of my mother-in-law, so I had to search for information on her health problems and discussed some of them in my iCloud mail but to someone with a Gmail account. So I think the data was harvested via that email conversation and not via my searches, which were conducted on Duck Duck Go. How the data got attached to me even though I was using my iCloud address…I don’t really know. Maybe I’m wrong but somehow advertisers were able to connect me to these medical concerns. So my point is basically data harvesting and ad targeting have a dark side. And it is this:

She passed away and to see ads still popping up (oddly enough on Apple News app, not on my Android phones) regarding products for her health problems is a sad reminder of her loss and suffering every time I see them. There are similar sad stories for people who have lost babies getting ads for baby products. It’s intrusive and unwelcome. I do have my Google account locked down to not target me and same for my iPhone settings so I’m not really sure how some things still slip past, at least on the Apple News app. Fortunately it’s happening less and less with that particular subject.
 
As much as I hate Google and especially their business model, its search engine is the only usable one.
Save your money, people will switch to Google search anyway.

I tried Bing, I really tried DuckDuckGo.
It was only one thing: Frustrating.
It’s funny, I use Bing as my default on all my devices and I’m pretty happy with it. Does what I need it to do without much fuss.
 
It’s funny, I use Bing as my default on all my devices and I’m pretty happy with it. Does what I need it to do without much fuss.
It’s kind of weird that I like a lot of Google products but I am not a fan of their search engine. I came to prefer Bing and then its more privacy oriented version Duck Duck Go to Google search, even though so many here talk about how inferior alternatives to Google are.
 
Google’s search results used to be what I wanted to find. Now half the time it’s what an advertiser wants me to find.
 
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that's a lot of money from Google for me just to immediately pick Duckduckgo.

i know a lot of people are lazy and will stick to the default option but google is dominating the search market (they have like 91-92%) so lets say Apple picked someone else.... i think A LOT of people would go out their way to figure out how to get Google search back.

for those who decided to stick with whatever new engine Apple picked; maybe it would provide some actual competition because Google search sucks these days. Bing is a serious option and DDG has improved quite a bit over the years too (and uses Bing results).

Apple should use that money to develop their own search engine 😛
maybe they are. i think there were rumours of them looking into it.
 
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I never really got this huge sum of money.

Isn’t Google the best search engine and doesn’t Apple want to offer the best to its users?

This should be a win win situation for both companies without any transaction between them, but I’m obviously very wrong. 😛
lol Apple does not want the best for its customers, it wants to make as much money as possible.
 
Sacconaghi claims Google is a monopoly, but suggests Apple buy their own search engine.
Sure, makes sense.
 
I would agree with that if google was excluded from being used at all. Since google is an option, it makes no difference.

People who don't know the difference in search engines in 2021, probably don't know the difference between a civic and a ferrari.
My wife and mother know the difference between a Ferrari and a Civic. They understand what Google is. My contention is they (and many others) would just consider a search in the address field of Mobile Safari would be "googling something," in the same way (if you're old enough) "xeroxing" something was the same as photocopying, irrespective of the brand of machine used.
 
Why are some here talking about privacy? 🤨
Those who care about it, can just chance the default search engine. But I bet, most people will use Google anyway.
Most probably do, but many do not. I tried DuckDuckGo years ago and it sucked, it’s my default browser now and it’s great for the things I search for.
 
Search is Google's core business, their lifeline. $15B to them is worth it to maintain prime access to the most valuable segment of consumers on the market (as well as discourage Apple from developing its own search engine). It makes perfect sense to just pay up rather than risk giving a competitor an angle to make inroads in marketshare and present an existential threat to their business.
 
My wife and mother know the difference between a Ferrari and a Civic. They understand what Google is. My contention is they (and many others) would just consider a search in the address field of Mobile Safari would be "googling something," in the same way (if you're old enough) "xeroxing" something was the same as photocopying, irrespective of the brand of machine used.
Your contention is that if Apple was privacy minded they would make DuckDuckGo the default. My contention is the people will notice. A lot of people will notice. Many people don’t care about privacy and use google for their own reasons. DuckDuckGo more than not stinks for certain things and I have to resort to google.com in the address bar. And yes back in the day it was “xerox it”. Today when I tell someone to google something I mean literally google.com. But that is me.
 
Your contention is that if Apple was privacy minded they would make DuckDuckGo the default. My contention is the people will notice. A lot of people will notice. Many people don’t care about privacy and use google for their own reasons. DuckDuckGo more than not stinks for certain things and I have to resort to google.com in the address bar. And yes back in the day it was “xerox it”. Today when I tell someone to google something I mean literally google.com. But that is me.
It is you, guy on macrumors.com with a screen name of I7 guy.

Normal people don't think of these things.

They search in the box where they've always searched and they click on the links.

Normal people don't say "what the $&^%()# ?" Where is my GOOGLE search result??"
 
Its hard to say no to $15B which makes about 25% of Apple's near 60B profit.

For the smarter ones, if Google is willing to pay $15B just to be the default(which you can change) search engine, what does that tell you about Google that is giving you their services for free?

As much as I hate Google and especially their business model, its search engine is the only usable one.
Save your money, people will switch to Google search anyway.

I tried Bing, I really tried DuckDuckGo.
It was only one thing: Frustrating.

Everything has a price, and the price of Google searching is your privacy. Some people go naked on camera for a specific amount of money. To each his own.

That being said, you can use startpage.com that has a deal with Google to give out Google results but has better privacy options.
 
Your contention is that if Apple was privacy minded they would make DuckDuckGo the default. My contention is the people will notice. A lot of people will notice. Many people don’t care about privacy and use google for their own reasons. DuckDuckGo more than not stinks for certain things and I have to resort to google.com in the address bar. And yes back in the day it was “xerox it”. Today when I tell someone to google something I mean literally google.com. But that is me.

It is you, guy on macrumors.com with a screen name of I7 guy.

Normal people don't think of these things.

They search in the box where they've always searched and they click on the links.

Normal people don't say "what the $&^%()# ?" Where is my GOOGLE search result??"

I am not sure what you are arguing about, but I want to say I have seen people who can't tell a difference between Android interface and Windows 10. If you gave them Excite.com and told them this is Google it will be all the same to them.

Most people just use without thinking or understanding.
 
I am not sure what you are arguing about, but I want to say I have seen people who can't tell a difference between Android interface and Windows 10. If you gave them Excite.com and told them this is Google it will be all the same to them.

Most people just use without thinking or understanding.
We’re “arguing” about apple hypocrisy by taking money from google and if apple were privacy minded they wouldn’t take money and set the default to DDG. @IllinoisCorn contention is most people wouldn’t know the difference. I agree if you are 50 or older. But 35 and under they are right there technically. 55 and under have a pretty good understanding. Apple is giving the people what they want and are getting paid for it.
 
I am not sure what you are arguing about, but I want to say I have seen people who can't tell a difference between Android interface and Windows 10. If you gave them Excite.com and told them this is Google it will be all the same to them.

Most people just use without thinking or understanding.
This is what I am saying. Plop a search engine in front of random person A and they will just search and not really think of a "Google" search or a "DDG" or "Yahoo" search. It's ALL THE SAME TO MOST PEOPLE. The idea that one of my 45 year old peers would stop and say..."well, that's not exactly google...let me go to google.com..." is nuts.

To those in the know? There is a difference. To most people? It's just a box to type in.
 
It can be horrible. I was helping take care of my mother-in-law, so I had to search for information on her health problems and discussed some of them in my iCloud mail but to someone with a Gmail account. So I think the data was harvested via that email conversation and not via my searches, which were conducted on Duck Duck Go. How the data got attached to me even though I was using my iCloud address…I don’t really know. Maybe I’m wrong but somehow advertisers were able to connect me to these medical concerns. So my point is basically data harvesting and ad targeting have a dark side. And it is this:

She passed away and to see ads still popping up (oddly enough on Apple News app, not on my Android phones) regarding products for her health problems is a sad reminder of her loss and suffering every time I see them. There are similar sad stories for people who have lost babies getting ads for baby products. It’s intrusive and unwelcome. I do have my Google account locked down to not target me and same for my iPhone settings so I’m not really sure how some things still slip past, at least on the Apple News app. Fortunately it’s happening less and less with that particular subject.
Sorry to hear about your situation. Have you tried resetting the advertising ID on the affected devices?
 
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We’re “arguing” about apple hypocrisy by taking money from google and if apple were privacy minded they wouldn’t take money and set the default to DDG. @IllinoisCorn contention is most people wouldn’t know the difference. I agree if you are 50 or older. But 35 and under they are right there technically. 55 and under have a pretty good understanding. Apple is giving the people what they want and are getting paid for it.
When I worked in repair service, most people not only couldn't tell the difference between search engines (or search engine and web browser at all); most of them had some spyware installed that replaced their start page with some ad-injecting crap. And I mean vast majority of them. They either didn't notice or didn't care, even though the logos and addresses were different and the search pages were plastered with ads. I fixed it for them as a courtesy and they still didn't notice. Not even once I got someone saying "by the way, thanks for fixing my web browser". You're telling me these people would notice the difference between bing and google?
 
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